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August 22

Two queries

1. Since 2014, Nikhilanand Panigrahy has been edited by the coincidentally-named User:Nikhilanand.panigrahy, the equally-coincidentally-named User:Ramakanta Panigrahy, and a couple of IP addresses until it has become a 3900+-byte CV. (Unsourced claims of having written 1500 papers, etc.) Given the two user accounts are clearly self-promotional SPAs (neither has ever edited any other article), would any admins be able to hand down a few blocks so they stop reverting the attempts at pruning the CV?
2. Also in 2014, User:Padmacharan123 created the article Bibhuprasad Mohapatra, which was sent to AFD and deleted for being "essentially an unsources [sic] BLP with some links to articles written by the subject in one particular blog site." Padmacharan then seems to have waited 12 months, then recreated the article again, meaning it now sits today as an... unsourced BLP with some links to articles written by the subject in one particular blog site. Since I can't see deleted articles, would any admins be able to see if the newer article is similar enough to the previous one for wp:G4 to apply?

2603:8001:4542:28FB:FD6E:8061:B945:3A49 (talk) 06:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC) (Actual talk)

Nikhilanand Panigrahy is a mess. Most of it is completely unsourced. Of the parts that are sourced. there are five refs in total: four are dead and the fifth fails verification. It's possible that that ref was only there to source the claim that the school had changed names, since it is unlikely that a university home page ever confirmed that a given person was an alumnus. Article tagged, editor pointed to COI. If sources are not found this will likely be an AFD candidate. Meters (talk) 07:21, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I suggest going directly to AfD, no reason to wait. There is nothing in that page that comes close to satisfying WP:NPROF, particularly as Google Scholar only finds one publication. No proof of any publications. The claim that Ph.D. thesis was about theoretical Solid State Physics is very, very dubious without publications. My experience with AfD of physicists is that this one is a no-brainer delete. Ldm1954 (talk) 08:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Blocked for using wrong username

Hi My name is Tom Henderson (TomH300). I quite innocently made an error when I wrote my article on Vectar Project, by using the name Vectar project. I was asked to login as a new user (tomH300) and I now find that the page is still blocked. Can you please help TomH300 (talk) 08:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I have already answered this (with happy news for you) at WP:TH. In future, please post a question/request to either one of these two pages. -- Hoary (talk) 09:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

"my article"

how i know my article is published ? Mohdfuad585 (talk) 08:57, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Which article is your article, Mohdfuad585?

User:Mohdfuad585 is going to be deleted, because it is not what user pages are for, and contains a stream of peacock language.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:32, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Help with maintenance message

I'm currently getting a CS1 maintenance message on this particular use of {{Cite web}}:

<ref>{{cite web |last1=Wagner |first1=Richard |title=Lansdowne 2.0 — some key questions remain unanswered |url=https://ottawacitizen.com/opinion/wagner-lansdowne-2-0-some-key-questions-remain-unanswered |website=[[Ottawa Citizen]] |access-date=16 August 2024 |date=9 August 2023 |quote=...the City of Ottawa is being asked by OSEG to invest at least $332.6 million into Lansdowne 2.0, which is in addition to the $136 million invested by the city in Lansdowne in 2014. |url-status=live |url-access=limited}}</ref>

Maintenance messages don't specify the problem like error messages do, but I'd like to know what the problem is here, and how to fix it, so I can avoid it in the future. Thanks in advance! — AFC Vixen 🦊 13:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

The warning is "CS1 maint: url-status". - UtherSRG (talk) 13:03, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

That said, I'm not sure why you are getting it. Have you tried running the article (with the ref included) through cite-bot? - UtherSRG (talk) 13:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

@AFC Vixen The problem is that you have used the |url-status= parameter but have not supplied an archive-url. According to {{cite web}} the latter is a prerequisite for using the former. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:20, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm a bit embarrassed that I somehow missed the |url-status= I accidentally orphaned when I got rid of an |archive-url=, but thank you two heaps for pointing this out! — AFC Vixen 🦊 13:40, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Changing template text

This might not be the right place for this, but I will start here. I had previously tagged a couple of articles with {{sources exist}} because I knew that there were sources in both for numerous unsourced paragraphs. I was told that it was for "articles with insufficient references to prove WP:GNG" which is not what the actual text of the template says. It was suggested that I use {{refideas}}, but that is also not right, in the end the compromise is {{more sources needed}}. That is still not right as the sources definitely exist. (If don't want to tag every sentence with {{citation needed}} as that would be too much work.) Is there a better tag, and/or probably the text of {{sources exist}} should be changed if it is supposed to be a notability tag. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:39, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

@Ldm1954 Template:More footnotes needed? PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:42, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Tag it with{{More citations needed}} and leave a talk page discussion about it is your best bet. Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 06:55, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

"Start a discussion" on Talk Pages

A new feature appeared today on Talk pages for both articles and users. It is part of mediawiki software since the banner appears without any code being visible in the source. On most editor's Talk Page (at the bottom) it shows "Start a discussion with X" and ".... What you say here will be public for others to see." along with the now-familiar flower icon and a big blue button for starting a new section. Two questions:

1) Why does it use the word "say" rather than "write"? (Maybe because we call them Talk Pages, not Write Pages!)

2) Why does the banner on my Talk Page show a different message, namely, "Welcome to your talk page" and "People on Wikipedia can use this talk page to post a public message for you, and you will be notified when they do." but no big blue button? Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Registered users only see it if "Enable quick topic adding" is enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. "say" can include writing as wiktionary:say#Verb says. I think "say" is a good fit for a two-person discussion. An administrator can change it by creating MediaWiki:Discussiontools-emptystate-desc-user which currently shows a default message, but a good reason would be needed. If it's created then a later modification of the default message would not be reflected. You are not supposed to start discussions on your own talk page so it makes sense that the "Start a discussion" button is omitted there. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:36, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Ah! So when others look at my Talk Page, they get the standard message: that makes sense. Thanks. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Joseph Hill violin

Are there any specific or special Markings to confirm the violin is genuine Ballynascreen (talk) 14:46, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

If you mean Joseph Hill (violin maker) then you will need to use Google to find a specialist. Knitsey (talk) 14:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Unfortunately our article at Joseph Hill (violin maker) is very poor and doesn't answer your question. Someone may be able to help if you ask again at the entertainment reference desk. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Where to advertise/promote a proposed rework of a page for critique and other review?

Greetings, so I've been working on this here massive rework of List of foodborne illness outbreaks in the United States for a hot minute, and while it still needs some work before I submit it to one or more appropriate channels, I have tried to promote my proposed rewrite for others to critique on the main page's talk page, but it does not appear to have received any attention since I posted it. If allowed, where would be an appropriate place to have a better chance of other editors critique it and, once it's done, submit it for review? Thanks in advance! TinglesFrickinMap (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

@TinglesFrickinMap: Try asking at WT:WikiProject Lists, or the talk pages of the other projects listed on your article's talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

If you put a notice at relevant projects with a link to the existing question on the article talk page, that helps to keep the discussion in one place. TSventon (talk) 16:14, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing @TSventon Thank you both for the suggestions! Went ahead and put up the proposed rework on the talk pages of some of the more relevant WikiProjects. TinglesFrickinMap (talk) 17:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Can I use Google Translate?

I was looking at the page Aramis (wrestler), a page that I have wanted to improve before, and I decided to look at the Español version. I noticed that the Español version has more writing in the Career section than in the English version. Am I allowed to Google Translate the part of the Career section on the Español page into English? Zabro29 (talk) 16:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes. And no.

Yes: To give yourself a private version of the Español into the approximate, near-but-not-English that Google Translate outputs.

No: Do not dump that near-but-not-English text into the English article. Instead, use your knowledge of English to write that translated text into encyclopedia-quality English.

Further: Be aware that the English Wikipedia has high standards regarding the citation of claims in the text. The Español version might not have had such high standards. So you may need to find additional citations (English, preferably) or cut out the unsupported parts of the text.

Hope that helps. Feline Hymnic (talk) 16:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

See Help:Translation You will need to acknowledge the source in an edit summary. It may be possible to copy over the original es references to be translated by a bot. TSventon (talk) 16:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

How to restore deleted wikipedia page

how to restore deleted wikipedia page?? Ganeshlingam111 (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Ganeshlingam111, that depends on the specific circumstances. What was the title of the deleted article? Cullen328 (talk) 19:59, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Probably Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rap Rakesh Sethulingam. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:51, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Rap Rakesh Sethulingam Ganeshlingam111 (talk) 21:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

Title : Rap Rakesh Sethulingam Ganeshlingam111 (talk) 21:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

This one would likely come under WP:REFUND. A talk page message to Liz might be enough in this instance. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:19, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

It depends which procedure was used to delete it. See deletion review. But be aware that you will need to understand Wikipedia's deletion policy, and make a policy-based argument. A deleted article will not generally be restored just because you want it to be. ColinFine (talk) 20:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

I read that this person is the Pioneer of Music "YouTuber" in Tamilnadu who started the first Independent Artist YouTube Channel and Released two Official songs before the start up of YouTube Channels like Sony Music, Saregama, T series,etc.. This isn't so easy to understand (notably, what distinguishes an "official" song from any other song?); additionally, the capitalization has got out of hand. -- Hoary (talk) 03:09, 23 August 2024 (UTC)