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March 4

I would like to cancel my account.

I would like to cancel my account on Wikipedia. Where can I do that? I have had trouble finding acceptable references for changes/edits I wanted to make in an article that I found has incorrect information. I would like all my inputs so far erased. Can you help with that? Thank you. Geo Rye (talk) 01:29, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

@Geo Rye: Due to legal reasons for attributing edits to accounts, yours cannot be canceled or deleted. Just log off and abandon the account. A steward may be nice enough to allow you to do a courtesy vanishing. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Will do! 2601:280:8201:F5F3:F54D:2CB1:B7F1:C035 (talk) 01:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Research question

I am looking to see if there is enough sources on Master Boot Record (the artist, known irl as Victor Love) to be notable enough to warrant an article. The interesting thing is that Love also has a side project known as Keygen Church, and I was wondering if I used sources that are on Keygen Church (and if i have enough information on Keygen to warrant notability), they could be used to create a MBR article. My reasoning here is that (to my knowledge) MBR is more well known, and since the same person is behind it that they could: a. be in a single article and b. use sources for Keygen to also provide information for MBR (ofc given that it actually mentions MBR). Is this an incoherent rant? Is my reasoning sound? Looking for a second (and more experienced) opinion.

vghfr, harbinger of chaos 03:13, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

hello! I remember enjoying an album from this artist a lot a handful of years back. I did some sleuthing, and unfortunately reliable sources seem at a minimum—there are a few published reviews of their work, but all from very small outlets, perhaps as well categorized as blogs, which are generally not considered reliable. The one likely RS I was able to find was this PC Gamer joint, which is borderline in any case, and generally multiple RSes are required to really establish notability. So, you'll need to either look better than me, or I would say if this came up at AfD, I would likely vote delete, unfortunately. Remsense诉 06:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Ah, that sucks. I've only been able to find what seems to be a primary source from what seems to be his record label. I've been trying to find sources because I enjoy his stuff as well (and thought he was more popular than it seems he actually is). Maybe he'll pop up in the mainstream in the future and there'll be some actual sources. vghfr, harbinger of chaos 06:17, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Wait, late breaking addition – I also saw this piece, which is much more substantial, and the outlet seems more viable also. If you have a handful of sources like this, I think you could write an article. Remsense诉 06:21, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh, interesting. vghfr, harbinger of chaos 06:22, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Just for shits and giggles I might throw together a sandbox draft and add stuff if I find more sources vghfr, harbinger of chaos 06:30, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

If I upload a logo, it is fair use?

Hello, I was wondering if uploading a logo is fair use, because I want to write an article about an Italian TV channel, and I want to include the logo. So I need an answer please. Ange2444 (talk) 08:03, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, most logos need to be uploaded as fair use. This carries some restrictions, like not being able to be used in a draft.(images aren't relevant to the draft submission process anyway) 331dot (talk) 08:28, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

So I will upload it if the article is accepted? Ange2444 (talk) 08:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes, once the article is accepted, you can probably upload it: see WP:LOGO. Some logos are so simple that they are below the c:COM:Threshold of originality, and those may be uploaded to Commons and used even in a draft; but the presence or absence of any image (including a logo) will not affect whether a draft is accepted. ColinFine (talk) 11:18, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Changing a pages title due to copyrights

Hello, i am quite new here so still learning how things work. I have come across a certain Wikipedia page "Israeli feta cheese"(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_feta) which i believe needs to be renamed because of copyright reasons. The Court of Justice of the European Union decided in 2005 that a cheese cannot be designated with the protected designation of origin (PDO) “feta” unless it is produced in Greece in compliance with the specific conditions for this type of product. From what I understood new members aren't allowed to change page titles so is there anywhere I could suggest this edit to be made? Teobnnc (talk) 08:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Since Israel is not a member of the EU, might not such a product be so named in Israel (and the USA) without regard to EU trade rules (which would not involve copyright)? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.127.56.230 (talk) 09:33, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

It;s not a copyright issue but a trade descriptions issue. See Feta#Effect of Certification as a Geographical Indication. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:39, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia uses the form of name which is most used in the reliable sources the article should be based on. This may or may not be the legal, official name - and in some cases, it can be a name which is contrary to some rule or law. See WP:COMMONNAME. ColinFine (talk) 11:55, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

The US and other places have different rules; in the US feta can be called feta as long as it looks and tastes like feta. 331dot (talk) 17:41, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

requesting article lock

I think that the article "List of Shaun the Sheep episodes" needs to be locked. Someone's adding non-existant S7 information, and it all points to this IP adress: 124.169.65.60 Visokor (talk) 08:40, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

See WP:RPP where you can request protection. Qcne (talk) 09:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Arguing

Why is this user speaking in such threatening way to me, and others (later may not be threat but still)? I don't have much experience of such arguments, so here to ask for help on how to handle this. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 10:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Editors are people: some editors are more aggressive than others. If you think an editor is being aggressive towards you or others, you can politely point this out on their user talk page. If they disagree, or they won't engage and it continues, you may take it to WP:ANI.

But WP:DONTBITE is a behavioural guideline for Wikipedia. Telling you so is not threatening, even if they choose to be rather terse about it. ColinFine (talk) 11:59, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

That's it then. Thank you. ExclusiveEditor _{Notify Me!} 12:00, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

File Names for Images

Hello! I'm in the process of making a page, and when I try to insert images, the file names are apparently not specific enough. I even tried inserting some of the examples for good file names and they still didn't work. I have made my titles very, very specific. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Blackbird9897 (talk) 19:26, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Blackbird9897. You cannot upload images until your account is at least four days old and has made at least ten edits. Wait until then and try again. In most cases, you should upload freely licensed or public domain images to Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 20:05, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

In addition, Blackbird9897, Draft:Gordon Brown (musician) is highly promotional, packed with name-dropping, and cannot possibly be accepted without a total rewrite. Please read the Neutral point of view carefully. It is a core content policy. Cullen328 (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

I've deleted it outright as 100% copyvio. DMacks (talk) 22:44, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

I’m actually making this page for a friend who asked me to use the biography from his already made website. That is the only place I used work from. I would appreciate if it would be put back up. 100.1.237.239 (talk) 02:11, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I’m actually making this page for a friend who asked me to use the biography from his already made website. That is the only place I used work from. I would appreciate if it would be put back up. Blackbird9897 (talk) 02:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

The answer would be no. Copyright problems aside, the tone is completely inappropriate for an encyclopedia. Please disclose your conflict of interest on your user page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:47, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

One of the options when creating a Wikipedia page was “for a friend/family friend”. I wasn’t aware I had to disclose my position in the page. I’m open to suggestions in order to make the page more appropriate for Wikipedia. Blackbird9897 (talk) 02:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

If the biography has previously been published on a website, Wikipedia cannot host a copy, even in a Draft-to-be-amended form, without violating copyright, even if the original author wants this, unless the original publication is released there under an appropriate CC-by-SA license.

Moreover, facts in a Wikipedia article must be cited to published reliable sources that are independent of the subject, so if this 'friend' has any personal connection with Gordon Brown, it cannot count towards confirming Brown's Notability, and unless they are a recognised authority on the topic area, they are not a Reliable source and cannot be cited for factual matters anyway.

Beware of trying to write the article backwards. Instead, collect pieces about Brown that have been published in respected newspapers, journals and books, or other media from professional organisations, and base your article only on their content, summarising it in your own words. If there are not at least three such pieces of substantial length, then Gordon Brown does not (yet) qualify for a Wikipedia article. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 176.24.44.161 (talk) 02:51, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Okay, thank you so much for explaining further. I appreciate the guidance! Blackbird9897 (talk) 02:57, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Other compatible licences also exist. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:15, 5 March 2024 (UTC)