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Image:Rick-rubin.jpg

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Image:Rick-rubin.jpg ([{{fullurl:Image:Rick-rubin.jpg<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/navpop.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&dontcountme=s">|action=delete}} delete]|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Dittocross 187 (notify | contribs).
  • Image doesn't meet FU on Wikipedia as someone could easily replace it by taking a picture of him and licensing it freely. — IvoShandor 11:00, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Question. But by this logic, wouldn't all the pormotional shots of celeberities also count as improper fair use? Since anyone could go take their picture....? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spundun (talk • contribs) 01:21, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes the logic does carry over to that, and yes some Wikipedians regularly nominate such fair use images for deletion. --Iamunknown 01:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • So are all such promotional shots banned by wikipedia? Not even one per article? --Spundun 02:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • It is a bit trickier than a blanket ban and I guess I'm a bit hesitant to tell you what I think, because there is not one right opinion, and my opinion may not necessarily be right. With regards to this image, I question whether it is a promotional image. Many images are not promotional images though editors claim they are. For example, though by layman's terms http://www.fox.com/ and Fox affiliates' website house "promotional material," if you read the terms of service, the material on the website is clearly not promotional material intended for wide distribution as publicity. The Fox.com Terms of use explicitly says:
          • "All materials contained in this Site are protected by international trademark and copyright laws and must only be used for personal, non-commercial purposes"
          • "The reproduction, duplication, distribution (including by way of email, facsimile or other electronic means), publication, modification, copying or transmission of material from this Site is strictly prohibited unless you have obtained the prior written consent of FOX..."
          • "The material covered by this prohibition includes, without limitation, any text, graphics, logos, photographs, audio or video material or stills from audiovisual material available on this Site."
        • They apparently don't want any of their material from their website distributed, published, modified, etc, which is in complete opposition to {{promotional}} and {{promophoto}}.
        • And in general, I can tell you that (1) fair use image copyright tags are not cure-alls; (2) some people think that no fair use images should be used to identify living people (with exceptions, such as known recluses) as people, but they may be used to identify living actors, for example, in pivotal movie roles (WP:FAIR#Counterexamples #2); and (3) the copyright owner of a fair use image must be known and must be indicated on the image description page (this is sometimes more difficult than it seems; per WP:FUC#10) These are somewhat undisputed.
        • My additional thoughts after doing a lot of image maintenance are: (1) the promotional image copyright tag is misused and (2) many fair use rationales are weak and disingenuous (see Image talk:01holly.jpg for an example related to both #1 and #2). If you have any more questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page or ask the folks over at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions where you can get a wider variety of responses. --Iamunknown 02:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Oh, BTW, there are several images on Flickr that you might be able to get under a free license. Just make sure the images are licensed under an Attribution or an Attribution-ShareAlike license only. I'd really like to help out and can contact Flickr users if you would like. Regards, Iamunknown 02:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Iamunknown has put it very well. This is an ongoing debate it seems. I for one, emphasize the free in Free Encyclopedia, other users feel differently. But it may, indeed, be that one day the Foundation just puts a blanket ban on Fair Use, who knows. Until then, all we can do is argue about it as it seems there will never be consensus on this issue. That being said, I don't think it is as hard as some make it seem to get people to freely license images, such as on Flickr, as I think many people really appreciate the Wiki, as readers, and do want to help us. It just seems to me that too many editors here assume that no one would ever license a photo freely if it were requested, which, of course, is a bad assumption to make. IvoShandor 10:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I definitely agree, and perhaps did not emphasize enough, that for living people Flick users are often glad to have their photos used on Wikipedia. I'd seriously love to help you if you need any help finding an image or messaging a Flickr user or uploading the image (as would be best practice) to Commons. Regards, Iamunknown 17:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Armeniangenocide_starved.JPG (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Stereotek (notify | contribs).
  • It was very kind of Armeniapedia to give permission to Wikipedia to use this image. We do not, however, accept with permission images (this is not speedy eligible, however, because it was uploaded pre 2005-05-19). Furthermore it is unlikely that Armeniapedia is the owner of the copyright to this image. The image description page at Armeniapedia linked from this image description page gives no further evidence to suggest who is the copyright owner because the page does not exist. So, it is a with-permission image, we do not know who the copyright owner is, what country he or she was in when he or she took this image, and thus we cannot establish the actual copyright status. Iamunknown 06:22, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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  • no reason for PD, no suitable file information

Please check the other uploads by this user for copyvios. --80.90.148.83 13:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:-p-GSUSA.png (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Jecowa (notify | contribs).
  • Unencyclopedic - while funny, this image has been altered to have funny mouths, a clever vandalism. Image:-p-GSUSA.png- obsoleted by Girl Scoutslogoonly.jpg — Chris 13:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Image:Gita1.jpg (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by Deepak (notify | contribs).
But in my opinion, it doesn't satisfy the following criterias.
  • The Image is too High-res
  • Its not impossible to aquire free alternatives (which is a condition stated in the Non-free fair use in template.
  • While the template claims fair use for the article Bhagvad Gita, the image is also used in 5 other pages. Clearly an image in demand, and free alternatives are theoratically possible (any image more than 60years old will do).
  • The copyright notice from the source (also pasted by the uploader on the image page) is the following
    ...if you’re a student or teacher and you want to publish an occasional BBT image on your website in an academic context, be our guest. Just please add our copyright notice:...
    Does wikipedia qualify under those conditions? Clearly commercial use is prohibited.
Bottomline is, There should be a free alternative available. --Spundun 17:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have re-sized the image for now, and will look-out for a free alternative in terms of a replacement. Regards, Gouranga(UK) 09:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As a rule of thumb, any fair-use rationale that employs that terribly misleading boilerplate text "very historically significant to the general public" is invalid. Unfortunately that sample text has been around on some help pages for ages and has mislead a lot of users. It almost never works, and it certainly doesn't here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedy delete g7, uploader request. NawlinWiki 14:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Hhohr.png

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Image:Hhohr.png (delete|talk|history|logs) - uploaded by HBot3 (notify | contribs).
  • Or, tagged as possibly wrong license. Fritz S. (Talk) 18:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm fine with this image being deleted. I posted it one year ago. I clearly state on the image's page that I added the borders myself. The base map is from [1], and I welcomed someone helping me with the correct license. I orphaned the image a little while ago, so go right ahead. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HBot3 (talk • contribs) 01:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


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