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  • I think that this image is a photograph of the Christus in Salt Lake City, Utah. (Try gooogling Christus LDS and you'll get some hits.) That said, freedom of panorama in the United States does not permit taking photographs of sculptures or works of art, even if they are situated in a public place. Thus, if this image remains both unused and tagged as "free", it should be deleted per copyright issues. Iamunknown 01:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • bogus fair use rationale, you don't need such a poster to illustrate the article Bleh999 01:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just a quick comment, there is no need to use the word bogus here. A simple "inappropriate usage of a fair use rationale" would suffix. Anyone knowing Francis Tyers would agree, he is not the kind who bends the rules to his own advantage. I agree the poster is not necessary to illustrate the article. This is however not different from the multitude of articles using postal stamps to refer to the subjects depicted in the actual stamps. Regards, --Asteriontalk 23:38, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Possible keep. I think showing how Macedonia-name activists are carrying on their campaign in Brussels does add to the understanding of the story, in a way which goes beyond words alone. At issue is whether, from the content of the article with the image, one is left with the conviction that the extra understanding was worth the use of a non-free image. On balance, I think that is the case, though copyedits to the article could do more to reinforce that. The fact that the article with the image is serving to inform public discussion about a live political issue, ie a topic of public consequence, is also a point to be weighed in its favour. Jheald 10:24, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    Unless other sources have used this image to comment on "how Macedonia-name activists are carrying on their campaign in Brussels", our use is original research. It's not up to us, as an encyclopedia, to determine the relevance of this image in topic. --Abu badali (talk) 02:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Also, we have a PD image of this athlete to illustrate his bio. --Abu badali (talk) 03:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Unnecessary, non-notable, non-free image of a magazine's cover used to illustrate the information that this athlete was featured on this issue's cover. The cover image is described in the article but this doesn't seem to add any noteworthy information. Abu badali (talk) 02:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Unnecessary, non-notable, non-free image of a book's cover used in an article not discussing the book in question (ther's a discussion about just one claim made in the book) Abu badali (talk) 03:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Unnecessary, non-notable, non-free image of a magazine's cover. It's stated that the magazine issue was notable, but the image itself doens't seem to add any noteworthy information that isn't already conveyed with text. Abu badali (talk) 03:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • No evidence this was released to be used by anyone as promotional material. A screenshot could be used to ilustrate this character, and free alternatives could be used to illustrate Superhero. Abu badali (talk) 03:52, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep for Storm (Marvel Comics). Distributed by 20th Century Fox as promotional material [3]. X3 website also contains wallpaper, AIM icons, etc. based on this image. Therefore image is legitimate as a candidate non-free image in presenting how the comic-book character is depicted in the movies. Choice between this image or some other non-free image is an editorial decision, for discussion on the article talk page. But if this one is the one the editors want, it's compliant by WP:NONFREE.
    • Do you ave any evidence that this image was distributed by 20th Century Fox as promotional material? The link you provided points to a fansite. I don't see how that helps. --Abu badali (talk) 15:34, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • The site is a comics news site, which specialises in publishing official material from official publicity releases as they come out. What does it matter if is a pro site, semi-pro, or put together by enthusiasts? When it says "20th Century Fox has provided The Continuum with large versions of the character shots from X3", in the build-up to the film release, then quite evidently this is distribution as promotional material. Jheald 16:00, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Look, here they are on MovieWeb, too. Jheald 16:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Promotional material such as this needs proof that it comes from a press kit. See Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2007 June 26#Image:Brunokirby2.jpg and Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 July 4#Image:Brunokirby2.jpg. howcheng {chat} 21:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Being copied in many websites doesn't makes it promotional. Do you have link to a site where the copyright holders states that anyone is welcome to use this image for promotional purposes? --Abu badali (talk) 22:15, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • Keep - Given the information at http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1361/842254497_92905df431_b.jpg, I would say that using the Bruno Kirby case as some sort of precedent is suspect, at best. All that the Bruno Kirby case proves is that Wikipedians, specificially these two editors pressing for deletion, do not have what I would consider an adequate understanding of how promotional photos work or are distributed these days, and their continued requests for some hypothetical standard of "proof" seems to be baseless. JHeald is exactly right; these images are still legal fair use, and are still NFCC compliant, even if they didn't come from a "press kit." Jenolen speak it! 23:52, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • The Brunokirby precedent applies, because it was an image claimed to be promotional, but was deleted because the uploader couldn't provide reliable evidence (other than to his own criteria of evidence) that the copyright holder welcomed anyone to use that image for media purposes. Also, just like in this case, links to a lot of sites using the images is not considered a valid evidence that the copyright welcomes anyone to use the image in question. --Abu badali (talk) 02:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
              • The Brunokirby image wasn't "claimed" to be promotional, as you put it, it was promotional, beyond a shadow of a doubt. And the link I gave - including the evidence which was conveniently overlooked during its deletion case and deletion review - prove to any reasonable person that, in fact, it was a promotional image. If you persist in misrepresenting the facts, I will have to assume you are not acting in good faith. Jenolen speak it! 06:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
              • As I said, on the uploader's own criteria of evidence, the image "was promotional, beyond a shadow of a doubt". It was not the first time you disagreed with something in Wikipedia. Indeed, I haven't seen you doing anything other than that in the last 8 months. --Abu badali (talk) 13:01, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't need such a link, and that is not the requirement. These images are from a standard set, sent out by the film company, in the build-up to their film release. That's pretty much the definition of a press kit or similar source. No, I don't have access to Fox's press site in the form it was two years ago. But the appearance, simultaneously, of the complete set, on two sites which specialise in tracking such promotional material is overwhelming circumstantial evidence. People have been hanged on less. Note also that the official film site is still distributing versions of these images for people to use on AIM, livejournal etc. Besides these images would still be legal fair use, and NFCC compliant, even if they hadn't come from a press kit. Jheald 23:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please, provide the link to the "official film site" you mention. --Abu badali (talk) 02:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As yet a third source running these publicity images, here they are at IMDB, in a section called "On the Set Off the Set Publicity Stills from Our Studio Friends". If you're still claiming these might not be from a standard studio publicity set, you're being absurd. Jheald 01:42, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Again, being in various websites doesn't implies that the copyright holder welcomes anyone to use these images. Sites like imdb.com. tv.yahoo.com. etc. may have any kind of deals with the copyright holder. Indeed, imdb explicitly says that images on their site are not to be used beyond personal use. --Abu badali (talk) 02:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Again, being in various websites doesn't implies that the copyright holder welcomes anyone to use these images. - Which, of course, makes no sense at all, because the whole point of fair use is that you're going to use, fairly, a portion of copyrighted material. There can be no free equivalent picture of "Storm" created, so I'm not sure why you think a fair use requirement is that the copyright holder must "welcome" the use of their material. The attitude of the copyright holder is almost completely irrelevant to a fair use claim. Jenolen speak it! 06:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please, since you are repeating your arguments, I can only point you to the (already familiar) discussion on Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2007 June 26#Image:Brunokirby2.jpg and Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 July 4#Image:Brunokirby2.jpg. At this point, you should already have understood that the the copyright holder welcoming the distribution is not a requisite for fair use, but a requisite for an image to be considered promotional. The "no free equivalent" bit is also addresses in that discussions. --Abu badali (talk) 13:01, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete because we have better pictures we can use. I'm not sure about the discussion you guys are throwing back and forth about promotional or not, but it's not the kind of picture I would choose if I wanted to show someone what the character was. Especially considering such images need to be kept minimal, as in, try to use only one picture. -- Ned Scott 05:07, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Choosing between different images of Storm from the film is an editorial decision to discuss on a talk page, not grounds for an IfD. And not very convincing even then, without presenting a specific image, and discussing how you think it better shows the character. Jheald 19:34, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Unnecessary, non-notable, non-free image from cnn showing an athlete posing with a piece of paper with the number 100. Apparently used to illustrate the information that he scored 100 points once. Abu badali (talk) 03:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • No evidence this was released as promotional material. It's more likely an image created to impromove the official website (and not ours). Abu badali (talk) 04:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep. Photo appears to be a standard publicity photo, like others have been collected with it here (MovieNet non-Warner bros site), that have been issued to the media to accompany reviews. No evidence that this is being kept back as a single-website exclusive. Jheald 10:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete The promotional status of the image can't be determined if it's not sourced. 17Drew 01:00, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sorry, corrected link: here. The MovieWeb site specialises in putting the contents of promotional kits online. See eg also the extensive official production notes here, and the competitions they run elsewhere on the site, giving away the press kit freebies. Elsewhere, the picture is also here at IMDB, about 4 screens through, under "On the set Off the set Publicity Stills from our Studio Friends". I really don't see how there can be any doubt that this picture is from an official Warner Bros. publicity release. Jheald 01:28, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Switching to keep now that the image is sourced and IMDb classifies it as a publicity still. 17Drew 07:36, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    It doesn't means that the copyright holder welcomes anyone to use this image. We don't know what kind of deals the copyright holder has with sites like imdb, tv.yahoo.com. etc.. We know, for sure, that they are not redistributors of material to the media (as they only allow their material to be user for personal purposes). --Abu badali (talk) 02:50, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per 17Drew. Dalejenkins 11:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Many academics retain the copyright to work they publish. If this user is, in fact, the author, then s/he can release it into the public domain, as stated. --Cheeser1 01:30, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tricky. Is this user really Dr Sonia Zakrzewski? Would she not anyway have had to assign the copyright to the journal publisher? I have a horrible feeling that it is the non-existent rights in the scan of the original that are what the user thinks he has GFDL'd. Therefore, recommend redraw from underlying data -- and rewrite caption. Jheald 11:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Image on Commons showing through. -Nv8200p talk 22:09, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Ultimately I suggest asking George! I think he would approve.

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  • Unnecessary non-notable unfree image showing a Miss being crowned, used to illustrate the information that she was crowned. Same case througly discussed in many nominations at June 18, June 29 deletion review, July 6, July 7, July 10, etc.. Abu badali (talk) 13:46, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. This is the type species of Miss crowning moments. – Quadell (talk) (random) 20:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as with many other editors who believe that these moments should be illustrated [4], [5], [6], [7]. There were also many who thought the June 18 afd was closed incorrectly [8], [9], [10], [11]. No matter what anyone says, however, I assume that this will be deleted, if so, it is vitally important that in some way the history of this be retained because I believe it is an important part of the evidence at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Abu badali.
    • The history of deleted images is kept, and administrators can see deleted images (including why they were deleted). All ArbCom members are administrators. This discussion will not be deleted. – Quadell (talk) (random) 13:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment it was suggested somewhere that reducing the size and quality of the image would reduce it's commercial competition and thus make it more feasible under NFC 2. I just reduced the image size and over-did the reduction of quality but I'll go back and fix that. I am open to suggestions as to whether this helps the fair use claim. PageantUpdater 23:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Both #2 and #8 are a problem, but mainly #8. Her crowning is discussed, and the crown itself is discussed in the article, but nothing in that discussion requires an illustration. (The article is poorer without some idea what she looks like, but we all know we can't use a copyrighted image for that purpose.) Plus it's worth pointing out the precedent that all these previous images used in exactly the same way this one was used in were also deleted. Mangojuicetalk 19:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • This is a non-free image, yes -- but irreplaceable as the focal point was the subject at a past championship. I contend that it is not used as decoration, but to illustrate an important moment in both teams history as they competed for the National championship. DMighton 19:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yet that important moment is not discussed in the article. – Quadell (talk) (random) 19:53, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • ...but it will be... I've been focusing mostly on tabulating stats and format and that is why it is still a stub article, and the team history has not been filled yet (which is the next step). But I'll be fixing that hopefully tomorrow when I am back from "wedding planning", I would do it right now but I am not at home where my records are. DMighton 22:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: In order to use a non-free image of an event, two things are needed. One: the event must be significant in the article, usually meaning that the event is the primary focus of a major section of the article. Two: the image must show some encyclopedic aspect of the event that words alone cannot. I personally don't know whether this image provides more encyclopedic content than the words "[Player name] and [player name] faced off in the [team] vs. [team] championship match." Also, if the article does not support this image at the time this nomination is decided, the image should be deleted, but it can be easily restored if the article is changed such that the image would be appropriate. Just contact me, or list the image on Wikipedia:Deletion review. – Quadell (talk) (random) 13:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • After a day of thought. My time is focused on other things at the moment. I really have no current use for the image in hindsight, so as the uploader I endorse the deletion. DMighton 02:05, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Deleted older version -Nv8200p talk 22:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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I believe the claim by remember.gov to be in error as the U.S. government sent representatives to the crash site and they took pictures on government time at government expense. Therefore that photograph likely has no copyright. The only way to ascertain that is to write to remember.gov and ask for the source of that picture. It appears to be an Army photo. I believe this photo should not be deleted. U.S. gov can not claim copyright.Skywriter 00:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the government CAN claim copyright on things on which the copyright was transferred to it. If the photo in question was taken by a federal employee, then you're right and it would not be copyrighted. howcheng {chat} 17:18, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The "White House Commission on Remembrance" was established December 28, 2000 (see No Greater Love and [13] where it is identified as "White House Commission on the National Moment of Remembrance"). It cannot have taken this photo. -Nard 21:14, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I concur... As a substitute: Can we use these pictures in concordance with the law (the pictures r presented on the web site of the fire department of Owinger; such departments r usually non profit organizations and in this case they do not make any claims about copyrights; or should I just upload a picture and wait, if it is deleted?)? --Homer Landskirty 18:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Image is a photoshopped book cover being used solely to illustrate living actors. The FU rationale refers to the use of the image not limiting the commercial distribution of the series or DVDs, but makes no mention of the book. Furthermore, the rationale states outright that is being used for illustration, rather than critical commentary. — Brad 18:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Use of a standard publicity shot in this context to show all of the characters could be argued to be part of the critical commentary, and would normally be regarded as acceptable for WP. (Note that critical commentary has a particular meaning in U.S. law, meaning -more or less- serious and informed discussion. It does not imply any element of literary criticism). What is nasty about this case is the way the image has been sourced from a book-cover, and then doctored to remove any trace of that source. If the image were re-created from a clean publicity photo, IMO that would be acceptable. Jheald 12:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The trouble is that it isn't being used for serious and informed discussion at all. Currently (2007-07-21) it is referred to only in the caption, which says "Promotional shot of Friends' cast during its tenth and final season". User:Jheald says it would be acceptable if it were recreated from a clean publicity photo but what improvements would that add to the article? It is merely decoration and if any image is to be added to that section it would be more appropriate to have a screenshot of an important moment from the season. Brad 16:55, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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I'd like to end this with the consenssus to KEEP.--Hornetman16 00:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Judy Garland pics

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There exists a free Judy Garland pic at Image:Judy Garland in A Star is Born trailer.jpg. (I am not nominating that pic for deletion.) Thus we cannot use a non-free pic to show what the actress looked like. The following non-free pics are used in the Judy Garland page, but I don't believe any of them pass our non-free content criteria.

I don't think any of these uses is acceptable. – Quadell (talk) (random) 20:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - as I linked in the fair use rationale (with the exception of two), these images are publicity photos released by MGM to promote Judy Garland, and as for the Wizard of Oz photo - to promote Judy Garland and her upcoming film. The Star is Born publicity photo was released to the media to promote her then upcoming film, A Star is Born. The only two exceptions being the Judy Garland fan magazine and the photo of her from the 1960's. The latter I received permission from the Judy Garland database [14], but its origin is questionable. As for the fan magazine, I am not certain what rules fall under that as well. But the following were released as publicity photos by MGM to promote Judy Garland:
  • Teenagejudygarland mgmpublicitystill2.jpg
  • Judygarland mickeyrooney louisbmayer mgmpublicitystill2.jpg
  • Judy Garland publ.jpg
The following was released by Warner as part of the press kit for their film "A Star Is Born"
  • Judygarland astarisborn warnerbros publicitystill 1954.jpg
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