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List of Football League Cup winners

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I've listed this article for peer review because I would like to know if there any improvements that can be made to the list. Thanks, NapHit (talk) 18:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 2001 final was decided in a penalty shootout, but the score is missing. --Hullu poro (talk) 10:08, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Eddie6705

'is considered to be the second most important domestic cup competition for English football clubs, after the FA Cup', although i agree with the statement, it could be seen as POV and would be better referenced.
'Nottingham Forest won two more consecutive titles in 1989 and 1990' should be a new sentence.
'..to be played outside London was held in 2001, as the League Cup final was moved to Cardiff's Millennium Stadium..', don't need to mention League Cup in this sentence.
Why are the second mentions of the teams and stadia in the double-legged finals not linked (e.g. Filbert Street and Villa Park), but there are multile links of the same teams and stadia for the single-legged finals?

All links need to be linked in sorable tables this is not so in non sortable tables. NapHit (talk) 12:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, i didnt realise that was the case. Eddie6705 (talk) 14:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You have the symbols in the key the wrong way round for penalty shootout and extra time.

Comments by Jameboy

"known as the Carling Cup for commercial purposes" - yes, but only since the 2003–04 season.
Can we crop the image down so that the cup fills most of the frame? It looks really small in the existing image.
In the lead you say that the 1967 final went to extra time - I'm pretty sure there wasn't extra time in that final.
"the larger teams returned to the competition" - I thought it said that they weren't in it at the beginning, how did they "return"?
"However, several of the larger clubs refused to take part in the early seasons of the competition, resulting in Aston Villa—who had recently been promoted to the First Division—winning the inaugural competition" - You're suggesting that Villa would not have won it had all the "larger" clubs taken part. How do you know? You also need to define "larger clubs" - do you mean "First Division clubs"?
Probably making some of my earlier points redundant, but I think some of the History section is going off-topic. This is a list of winners, so we don't need an explanation of how many teams entered when and why. I'd condense the two prose sections into a focussed, three-paragraph lead that gives some background to the subject but concentrates mainly on introducing the list, and let the main Football League Cup explain all the whys and wherefores. --Jameboy (talk) 22:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by ChrisTheDude

No need for comma after Cup in first sentence
Mention of first winner should go before mention of first winner of a single-legged final, not after
"Liverpool hold the record for the most League Cup titles, having won the competition seven times since its inception" - obviously they couldn't have won it before its inception, so that bit is redundant
"However, several First Division refused to take part in the early seasons of the competition" - spot the missing word :-)
"changes were made to the competition to allow the winners automatic qualification to the UEFA Cup" - although the possibility of European qualification for the winner was added, no changes were actually made to the competition itself, suggest a reword
"The last League Cup final replay was held in 1997" - clarify that this because the rules were changed to require a penalty shoot-out instead, currently it reads as if there haven't been any replays since 1997 but theoretically it could happen again
"Team from outside the top level of English football (since the formation of The Football League in 1888)" - as the cup wasn't created until 1960, the bit in parentheses is redundant

Looks good apart from that! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:06, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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For finals that went to a raplay I would merge the year cells.
Isn't this more of a List of Football League Cup finals? BUC (talk) 11:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]