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August 9

Are there more plants besides Cannabis with similar effects that have been banned in many world countries?

I know that there are legal limitations on Khat and Kratom and perhaps also on Betel nut (and of course Tobacco) but more because of their stimulant and/or addictive properties, not because of their possible muscle-relaxing and sedating and addictive nature such as with many Cannabis cultivars (if I am not mistaken, some Cannabis cultivars may include stimulants themselves).

Anyway, my question is, are there more plants that are illegal besides Cannabis due to generally having muscle relaxing and/or sedating (but seldom also anxiety-inducing) effects?

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.199.70.194 (talk) 19:10, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

The peyote, a cactus, is on the US list of Schedule I controlled substances, with an exemption for use in "bona fide religious ceremonies of the Native American Church"; see Peyote § Legality—United States. Its possession, as that of several other species of psychoactive cacti, is also illegal in several other countries around the world; see Legal status of psychoactive cacti by country.  --Lambiam 20:08, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

See also Legal status of psilocybin mushrooms, if fungi fall within your definition of plants - they have had their own separate biological kingdom since 1969. Alansplodge (talk) 13:47, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't think peyote and mushrooms are known for their muscle relaxing and sedating effects, per the OPs original question. Viriditas (talk) 20:43, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

Opium poppies? Too obvious? There's kava.  Card Zero  (talk) 14:16, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

August 10

Hudson's Bay Company Lands

Hi, the article says that when Rupert's land was transferred to Canada, the company kept some of the land (like 1/12th of all cropland or even additional land). Question, is this land still retained by the company currently or did it sell it? Thanks in advance. Vyacheslav84 (talk) 22:08, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

The land was negotiated in the Deed of Surrender. wikisource:Rupert's Land and North-Western Territory Order/Schedule C has a table of the lands that the HBC chose to keep. This page mentions that Large holdings of land negotiated as part of the Deed of Surrender took the Company into real estate. The sale of homesteads to newly-arrived settlers would later evolve into a full-scale interest in commercial property holdings and development. For an example of what that process looked like, History of Winnipeg#Development and incorporation has information on how the HBC subdivided and sold the lands they held around Fort Garry to form part of Winnipeg. Pinguinn 🐧 23:50, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much, does the company now own the lands? --Vyacheslav84 (talk) 14:39, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

It seems like they've all been sold off by now. HBC Properties and Investments is their current real estate division but its properties are all retail related. Pinguinn 🐧 22:02, 11 August 2024 (UTC)

In addition to the above - they underwent other corporate changes which would have moved land / real estate with it. Mainly Northern Stores being split off into what is now a shareholder company. Komonzia (talk) 01:08, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much, is it possible to track when they sold the last parcels of land? --Vyacheslav84 (talk) 11:57, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

August 14

Criminal charges: information in the public domain in England

If an individual is charged with a criminal offence in England, is that a matter of public record? Can the charges brought be viewed by the public, and if so how? And say the case never comes to court for whatever reason – for example, because the charges are dropped. Are the reasons for the charges being dropped made public? --Viennese Waltz 14:51, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

In the United Kingdom a D-Notice is an official request to news editors not to publish or broadcast items on specified subjects for reasons of national security. The Independent Press Standards Organisation is supposed to deal with issues such as accuracy, invasion of privacy, intrusion into grief or shock and harassment. Philvoids (talk) 20:57, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

National Security - the next-to-last refuge of a scoundrel. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:50, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

No, it is not by default part of the public record. Not all charges lead to trials (trials are by default public), and people who are charged or investigated generally have the right to privacy considered and balanced. See here for more info: https://www.brettwilson.co.uk/blog/reporting-restrictions-in-criminal-courts/ (a blog post but it refers to cases). For dropping charges, sometimes it is part of a plea deal and up to the parties in question sometimes as part of the deal itself whether or not it will be public.

For family courts, it is even more likely to be secret, but changing recently: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64411229 - Komonzia (talk) 04:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

August 15

Why does the Man in the Yellow Hat own two houses?

If you're a Curious George fan, you might remember that the Man in the Yellow Hat owns two houses: a cottage in the countryside and an apartment in the city. I'm not sure how it's practical to own two properties when they're a considerable distance apart and you have to pay a hefty sum for said properties. TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 04:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Owning two (or more) houses is not at all unusual for those who can afford it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:21, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Indeed, see second home for examples. Alansplodge (talk) 10:48, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Air conditioning didn't become widespread until the 1960s. Prior to that time, people who could afford it would escape the summer heat in the city and leave for cooler environs if they could. While it's true that the countryside could often be warmer than the city in some places, I think that if it was at a slightly higher elevation, the air would be cooler. I suppose that if the country house was in a valley, it could be a problem. My grandparents didn't get AC in their city house until the 1950s, I believe. Viriditas (talk) 21:20, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I just remembered something else that I discovered while researching the California Coastal Trail. Many people here probably already know this, but up until the 20th century, Americans didn't really travel all that far from home in terms of distance to escape the summer heat. For example, early tourism in California, from around 1880-1914, generally involved people traveling less than 50 miles to go on vacation from their local communities. This was especially true in places like San Francisco, Oakland, and Berkeley in Northern California, and Riverside and San Diego in the southern part of the state. In recent years, the stark contrasts between two places so close together have been lost to time, as urbanization and the loss of green space have flattened out the differences between the urban and country environments. But in the 1970s, I had a unique opportunity to travel widely throughout the state, and back then you could still notice a kind of transformation when you crossed from San Francisco to the East Bay or from Los Angeles to Riverside to San Diego. It was easy, therefore to imagine, how people in the late 19th and early 20th centuries could travel very short distances and think that they were on some kind of remote, exotic vacation. That's all gone today. Viriditas (talk) 22:45, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

The entire government of British India used to move from Calcutta to Simla (something like 1000 miles) to escape the summer heat. 50 miles is really not trying. DuncanHill (talk) 23:09, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Right, but the state of California is famous for regional microclimates within the space of just a few kilometers. Heck, try walking one mile from the Mission to Noe Valley in SF. It's like you've traveled to another world in terms of climate. Now extrapolate that out, farther and father. My point is that 50 miles in California really was like traveling to another country at one time based on climate and environmental variability. On the Big Island of Hawaii there are eight climates alone. This is the same idea in a smaller space. Viriditas (talk) 23:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Even just San Francisco has microclimates. Had Mark Twain lived in Potrero Hill, he would not have issued his biting judgement of summer in San Francisco.  --Lambiam 01:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

That might indeed be said of whoever originated that quote, but it wasn't Mark Twain. [1] CodeTalker (talk) 20:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I think Lambiam knows that, but most of us just pretend Twain said it anyway. It's more fun. Viriditas (talk) 23:36, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

"Never let the truth get in the way of a good story." - Mark Twain. 12.116.29.106 (talk) 18:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

"I didn't say that." - Mark Twain. 136.54.237.174 (talk) 19:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

applied psychology: conflict management

I am looking for information about a concept from applied psychology that has to do with managing conflict: it is about classifying the person you are in conflict with using two independent dimensions: one is aggressive vs nonaggressive, i forgot what the other one was, maybe cooperativeness. The trick is, in conversation, to use this classification to adjust your own behavior to be in a different quadrant: in my memory (I read this somewhere on Wikipedia an now I cannot find it back) it had to be either an adjacent quadrant or the opposite one, I cannot remember which.

Could you help me identify which method this is? I am kicking myself for not bookmarking this page. Which I guess makes me aggressive/noncooperative.

GilHamiltonTheArm (talk) 11:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

I found a PhD thesis online, Identifying the Factors That Influence Conflict Management Behavior of Human Resource Professionals in the Workplace, that may contain the answer in Chapter 2: Literature Review. I think it is by itself an interesting read; in an organizational context such as a workplace there is the issue of what one seeks to achieve in managing a conflict; there may be a tension between the organizational goals and the interpersonal goals.  --Lambiam 12:22, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, Lambiam.

However, while the author mentions, in the literature review, the idea of using different conflict resolution modes in different situations, the text focuses more on people that have chosen a "best" approach.

It seems to me that this is not exactly the same subject: for example, "compromise" may be the best approach between two parties of equivalent power, when not much time is available for negotiation. This does not address the issue of personality. Also, it makes me think that I may have misunderstood this aspect: it is possible that it isn't about personality, but about adjusting your "conflict management strategy" to the affect/emotion of the other party.

GilHamiltonTheArm (talk) 13:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

This sounds very much like a variation of Nonviolent Communication. Viriditas (talk) 21:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Frequency of the 24 possible permutations of the last 4 Christmas gifts

There are 24 possible permutations of the last 4 gifts in The Twelve Days of Christmas. Those are the following:

• Nine ladies dancing, ten lords a-leaping, eleven pipers piping, and twelve drummers drumming
• Nine ladies dancing, ten lords a-leaping, eleven drummers drumming, and twelve pipers piping
• Nine ladies dancing, ten pipers piping, eleven lords a-leaping, and twelve drummers drumming
• Nine ladies dancing, ten pipers piping, eleven drummers drumming, and twelve lords a-leaping
• Nine ladies dancing, ten drummers drumming, eleven lords a-leaping, and twelve pipers piping
• Nine ladies dancing, ten drummers drumming, eleven pipers piping, and twelve lords a-leaping
• Nine lords a-leaping, ten ladies dancing, eleven pipers piping, and twelve drummers drumming
• Nine lords a-leaping, ten ladies dancing, eleven drummers drumming, and twelve pipers piping
• Nine lords a-leaping, ten pipers piping, eleven ladies dancing, and twelve drummers drumming
• Nine lords a-leaping, ten pipers piping, eleven drummers drumming, and twelve ladies dancing
• Nine lords a-leaping, ten drummers drumming, eleven ladies dancing, and twelve pipers piping
• Nine lords a-leaping, ten drummers drumming, eleven pipers piping, and twelve ladies dancing
• Nine pipers piping, ten ladies dancing, eleven lords a-leaping, and twelve drummers drumming
• Nine pipers piping, ten ladies dancing, eleven drummers drumming, and twelve lords a-leaping
• Nine pipers piping, ten lords a-leaping, eleven ladies dancing, and twelve drummers drumming
• Nine pipers piping, ten lords a-leaping, eleven drummers drumming, and twelve ladies dancing
• Nine pipers piping, ten drummers drumming, eleven ladies dancing, and twelve lords a-leaping
• Nine pipers piping, ten drummers drumming, eleven lords a-leaping, and twelve ladies dancing
• Nine drummers drumming, ten ladies dancing, eleven lords a-leaping, and twelve pipers piping
• Nine drummers drumming, ten ladies dancing, eleven pipers piping, and twelve lords a-leaping
• Nine drummers drumming, ten lords a-leaping, eleven ladies dancing, and twelve pipers piping
• Nine drummers drumming, ten lords a-leaping, eleven pipers piping, and twelve ladies dancing
• Nine drummers drumming, ten pipers piping, eleven ladies dancing, and twelve lords a-leaping
• Nine drummers drumming, ten pipers piping, eleven lords a-leaping, and twelve ladies dancing

But how frequently are each of the above 24 permutations used for the last 4 gifts in The Twelve Days of Christmas? In particular, what is the rarest possible permutation? I would expect the most common order to be the "Nine ladies dancing, ten lords a-leaping, eleven pipers piping, and twelve drummers drumming" order, which is the first one in the list above.

GTrang (talk) 21:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Don't they normally count down from twelve? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, there is only one permutation permutating (weather permuting). Clarityfiend (talk) 03:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Is this really a question about combinatorics, and not about the song? I've sometimes seen The Twelve Days of Christmas used to pose mathematical problems, but I think the usual question is how many gifts in total by the end. (364 according to our article.) You may be basing your question on an imaginary version of the song where the number of items, per-gift, changes with each verse, and since you ask about permutations, the numbers must cycle independently, which suggests it would be an extremely long song, maybe 1! + 2! + 3! ... 12! verses.  Card Zero  (talk) 04:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I interpreted the question how frequently these permutations are used as asking about the statistics of the population of renderings of these songs (which may be different for the population of versions in print and that sung in family gatherings). Both "twelve ladies dancing, eleven pipers piping" and "twelve pipers piping, eleven ladies dancing" have zero ghits.  --Lambiam 11:47, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I see. "The gifts associated with the final four days are often reordered", says our article.  Card Zero  (talk) 12:24, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

August 21

Anniversaries

V kategorii Úmrtí 2024 chybí Paul Spencer - Dario G. 2A00:1028:8390:B1E2:C0C5:E044:7F06:3DE4 (talk) 10:33, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Paul Spencer does not have his own article. He may not be considered individually notable. Xuxl (talk) 14:59, 21 August 2024 (UTC)