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August 26

musical mysteries to solve

In 1981, KFRC in San Francisco played two songs. In one song, the chorus was, 'It's gonna be an all night dance.' In the other, the chorus sounded like, 'Baby at your host, baby.' In 1982 KFRC played two more songs. In one song the chorus was, 'and I'll show you my girl. (Show you my girl).' In the other, with a little country flair, the chorus sounded like something of baseball. Also in 1982, there was The Reddings rendition of, "Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay," and the Wolf rendition of, "Papa Was A Rolling Stone." (I can't seem to find them anywhere on YouTube). In that same year, there was a San Francisco Bay Area mix rendition of, "Planet Rock (song)," by Afrika Bambaataa & the Soulsonic Force. The tune mentions rocks from many San Francisco Bay Area cities to the Planet Rock. There was also a tribute to Don Rose sung to the melody of, "Mickey (song)," by Toni Basil. If those mysteries can be solved, that would be fantastic.72.229.139.13 (talk) 03:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Name of this hentaithing

Clips like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZITHtVFqm4 is often found on YouTube but I don't know the name of the hentai anime. -- JSH-alive ^(talk)_(cntrbtns)^{(mail me)} 07:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

The name is Boin. --78.53.201.147 (talk) 05:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

See Boin. Oda Mari (talk) 06:21, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Colors of Uniforms of Athletes from Australia and the Netherlands

Why are the uniforms of Australian athletes green and yellow, and those of the the Netherlands orange? Others generally follow the colors of their national flags.

125.5.34.139 (talk) 07:16, 26 August 2008 (UTC) Peter Barot

We've had this question just recently. Australian sporting teams have worn green and gold since early 1900s; that article speculates that the colours are related to Australia's floral emblem, the Golden Wattle. New Zealand, also, makes little use of the red/white/blue in their flag and has used black and silver/white since late 19th C. (Perhaps this is to make a distinction from the Home Nations, from which they each took the red/white/blue flag). The Dutch colours come from William of Orange. You'll find other exceptions to the "flag colours" tradition at National colours. Gwinva (talk) 07:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

This came up recently for The Aussies see the responses...(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Entertainment/2008_August_13#Australian_Olympic_attire) - - As for the Netherlands they have this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands_national_football_team#Strip) within the national football team article and presumably the same holds true for the olympic team. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 07:54, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Minor correction. The NZ flag is exclusively red, white and blue, but the sporting colours are black and white. -- JackofOz (talk) 08:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Jack for explaining to everyone else what I knew I meant! (And apologies for my poor prose.) NZ's official flag colours are red white and blue (although there is the unofficial Silver fern flag), but the national colours are black and white. This extends beyond sporting contexts; for example, the military make use the silver fern on black insignia (random aside: the Royal Wiltshire Yeomanry's vehicles do as well). There have been calls to integrate the black and white (silver fern) colours into the official flag: the refdesk's own User:Grutness has designed one alternative. Gwinva (talk) 08:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Olympics record holders

• What Olympian holds the most total medals in the most sports? (In other words, for example, ... John Smith won 15 medals and they were distributed among 5 different sports.)
• What Olympian holds the most gold medals in the most sports?
• What Olympian holds the most total medals from winning in both Winter and Summer games?
• What Olympian holds the most gold medals from winning in both Winter and Summer games?

Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:34, 26 August 2008 (UTC))

I have no ready-made answers, but List of multiple Olympic medalists and Category:Dual Olympics medalists may be good places to start. Both may very well be incomplete, though. -- Jao (talk) 15:47, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll note that your questions aren't immediately clear. For instance, "most total medals in most total sports" -- which "most"? Most medals, any number of sports? Most medals, at least two sports? Most sports, at least one medal? I assume the latter two questions mean "with at least one medal won in each of Winter and Summer", but that's not specifically stated, either. — Lomn 20:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Lomn -- Thanks. As for the latter 2 questions ... I stated: "winning in both Winter and Summer games" ... isn't that asking for someone who won medal(s) in Winter and also won medal(s) in Summer? Wasn't that specifically stated? I'm confused ... how else could that be interpreted? The operative words, I thought, were "winning" and "both". Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC))

I found "most medals won, considering both summer and winter games" to be an equally plausible interpretation, as contrasted with "most medals won, winter games only". "Winning in both" seems a particularly odd phrase regarding total medals as it likely includes events which were not, strictly speaking, won. — Lomn 03:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Assuming you mean "most medals total, regardless of the number of sports", and not "medals in the most total sports":

• Larissa Latynina — 18 medals total
• Michael Phelps — 14 gold medals total
• Clara Hughes and Christa Luding — 5 medals total (at least 1 each in Winter and in Summer)
• Eddie Eagan, — 2 gold medals (1 in each Winter and Summer)

— Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 22:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the question was hard for me to phrase. Perhaps I don't even know exactly what I meant. What I was driving at was ... who is the most "diverse" successful Olympian? (whatever that means) Latynina won 18 ... but all 18 only in one sport, gymnastics, I believe. Phelps won 14 ... but all 14 only in one sport, swimming, I believe. So, while they are indeed great -- they are not great at several sports ... but, rather, great at "just" one sport. So, I am trying to ask -- who won the most medals in the most number of sports? (I know that's as clear as mud.) How about ... who won medals in the greatest number of different sports? And - then - same question for gold? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC))

List of multiple Olympic medalists#Athletes with medals in different disciplines is a start. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 00:00, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Paper Mario

Is the Paper Mario series considered canon? If it is why is Mario made out of paper? Is it just the graphics? And how come at the begining of Super Paper Mario, everthing is 2-D when the Mario Brothers haven't entered the 2-D dimension--76.176.122.19 (talk) 22:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

This site has a pretty interesting interpretation of the Mario canon. Just be aware that this is not the official canon, just one fan's interpretation. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 22:30, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Låt den rätte komma in' - record player scene

Can a swedish music expert (who has seen this film) identify the song played on the record player by Oskar midway through the movie? It's vaguely glam-rock, and all my internet searches have come to naught. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.157.48.181 (talk) 22:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Film posters have never made sense to me

Okay, fellow Wikipedians, answer this one: why is it that film posters and DVD covers which have images of the actors with their names above or below often don't have the names above or below the relevant actor? Examples: [1], [2]. Sometimes a film poster features only two actors and the names still don't match, e.g. [3] --AdamSommerton (talk) 22:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

It's do with the "billing". Either the order will be left to right to indicate who is getting top billing, or it will deliberately disagree with the image in order to give equal status to the actors if they are of equal "stature" (especially if two names are involved). I recall quite a few arguments over the order, font size, images used etc. when actors think they aren't getting enough limelight. Fribbler (talk) 23:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

And would you believe it - Billing (filmmaking). Nanonic (talk) 23:08, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I also think that there are 2 very different issues involved here. One issue (as mentioned above) is "billing" (whose name comes first, what size font, whose name is above the film title versus below the film title, etc.). And a wholly separate issue is the art work / design of the poster or DVD box cover. I believe that actor's contracts are quite clear and specific about the actor's billing ... as stated above, it can be a highly contentious issue (given actors' egos and the nature of the business). I don't believe, however, that actors have any control whatsoever over the artistic/graphic design of the poster or DVD cover. A lot of movies have several different posters or several different DVD box covers. Sometimes, just words (title, names, etc.) with no pictures. Sometimes, pictures included. Since many films have used a variety of designs (for the same film), I cannot believe that they go back and renegotiate the new cover design with the actors. I think actor contracts have a great deal of control / influence over billing. I think they have little or no control over the images / design of the cover art. Hence, the order of names would rarely match the actual photo used in a large cast. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 23:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC))