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What was of this movie?

Does anybody know of this movie? Link: [scene]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.18.60 (talk) 00:28, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I clicked on your link and got "Page not found". Want to check it? HiLo48 (talk) 00:31, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The link is malformed and should go here. But that's some producer's page. Adam Bishop (talk) 01:20, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

That must be the one starring the Invisible Man and Sir Not-Appearing-in-This-Film, directed by Alan Smithee, with songs performed by Milli Vanilli. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Don't forget the movie's theme song . 10draftsdeep (talk) 16:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry about that. It is from Dailymotion.com. Link: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xg8f85_loads-of-naked-girls_sexy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.155.213 (talk) 15:05, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Just to note for potential helpers/help-ees the video is NSFW (not safe for work). ny156uk (talk) 18:35, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Rivals

I have 2 questions in one, firstly there was a movie released at the same time as Paranormal Activity, it was also about the supernatural and was also made of home video clips. What was this movie called. Then I have another slightly related question, it would appear that very often 2 of the same thing are brought out at the same time, the example above is one. Remember Armegeddon and Deep Impact, both released at very much tghe same time and both about an asteroid hitting the earth. I could give example after example if needs be but I think this will suffice. What is this phenomenon called and why does it occur, it would appear it happens in music as well as movies, 2 of the same style of new music are released. Any information concerning this phenomenon would be great, and the name of that other horror movie please. Thanks wikis —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.89.16.154 (talk) 08:56, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Zeitgeist. (this is not the name of the movie but the answer to the question about the phenomenon!) --TammyMoet (talk) 09:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm not certain about the movie, but it could have been the 2009 Paranormal Entity[1], 2008's Home Movie (one of a number of films of that title)[2], or less likely Diary of the Dead[3]. I did an IMDb search for "fake documentary" horror from 2005-2009[4]. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:09, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, but it was none of these, I seem to remember from watching the first 30secs that it starts with a home video (of a TV set?) and on it is a talk show. With a woman telling about her experiences. Any other sugestions? found the IMDB rather lacking to be honest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.89.16.154 (talk) 11:31, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know the specific film you're looking for; but with regard to the general question, oftentimes a producer or film company will learn about a film in production elsewhere and decide to produce a similar film, designed to forestall or compete with the other. One old example is the low-budget quickie Rocketship X-M, which was made to get to the audience ahead of the much more elaborate Destination Moon. And, of course, after a film has proved popular everyone rushes in with copycat films, often quite quickly, so that it seems as though a bunch of similar films are all coming out at the same time. Deor (talk) 13:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

In the internet age, such conventions stretching across multiple works are called tropes. In its original usage, the term "trope" refers to common linguistic constructs found in multiple works of literature (the classics "tropes" are "Once upon a time" and "Happily ever after"). By extension, the term has come to refer (metaphorically) to common plot elements, settings, and other cross-work connections between otherwise independent works; that's how the website TV Tropes uses the word. It has certain connections to the term meme, which covers a similar phenomenon. --Jayron32 13:22, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The Fourth Kind.63.17.87.124 (talk) 00:01, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Stan Lee's Uncanny X-Men

What were his ideas and inspirations behind the comic? GlennRichardAllison ^{Mr. 900 Jr.} bowling

The article Uncanny X-Men has some background information. It is the Flagship comic of the X-Men Universe, so anything canonical about the X-Men in general derives from The Uncanny X-Men comic first. The article History of the X-Men comics contains a lot of good background information on how Lee created the concepts for the story, and likely sources for his inspiration. --Jayron32 17:25, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

WWF to WWE

Why did they have to change it? I thought that the World Wrestling Federation had been around longer than the World Wildlife Foundation. GlennRichardAllison ^{Mr. 900 Jr.} bowling

Nope, the World Wildlife Fund has been using that name since 1961, the World Wrestling Federation only adopted that name in 1979. Prior to that, it was known as the WWWF (World Wide Wrestling Federation) an name it adopted in 1963. Prior to 1963 the WWE was known as the Capitol Wrestling Corporation. So whether you count 1979 (as the WWF) or 1963 (As the WWWF), the World Wildlife Fund still came first and has the primacy claim. While you are correct that, technically, the WWE has been around longer (it started in 1952), the actual name hasn't been used that long. --Jayron32 17:54, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

And I think it's fair to say that the World Wildlife Fund has a lot more to do with both the real and the whole "world" than the World Wrestling Federation. HiLo48 (talk) 23:12, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

This reminds me of when I first heard that Mike Tyson had joined the WWF - I seriously had a hard time imagining him cuddling up to pandas and koalas. --KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 16:05, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Texas Chainsaw Massacre

Was it really based on a true story? How much of the story was actually true? --GlennRichardAllison ^{Mr. 900 Jr.} bowling

See The Texas Chain Saw Massacre. -- kainaw™ 19:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know about the movie. I want to know about the "True" story behind it. --GlennRichardAllison ^{Mr. 900 Jr.} bowling

Read the article, the answer is in there and it is easy to find. --Daniel 19:56, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually it isn't. I didn't ask the question, but I am curious too. The article mentions Ed Gein but not exactly which points are inspired. Please don't point to an article and claim it's easy to find. The first guy read the article but didn't get the answer he was looking for, and I read it too and didn't find the answer either. 72.2.54.34 (talk) 20:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The question is: "Was it really based on a true story?"

The answer is in the article's first paragraph: "Although The Texas Chain Saw Massacre was marketed as a true story to attract a wider audience, as well as to provide subtle commentary on the political climate at the time, the overall premise is entirely fictional. The main antagonist, Leatherface (Hansen), and minor plot details were inspired from real serial killer Ed Gein."

So, the next question: "How much of the story was actually true?"

The answer is in the same part: "the main antagonist" and "minor plot details". Neither are actually true. They are just "inspired."

So, a complete answer: The writers heard about Ed Gein and wrote a complete fictional movie. -- kainaw™ 20:46, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Having never seen the movie, I'm curious: which details? I'm pretty sure Gein never used a chainsaw. Aaronite (talk) 01:26, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Didn't we just answer this exact same question a few headers up, but for a different movie? You might want to read that discussion regarding the use of the "based on a true story" tag placed at the beginning of some movies. --Jayron32 21:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Having never seen the movie (and unlikely to ever watch it in the future), I nevertheless did find this on snopes.com:

"Although the Leatherface character and the events depicted in The Texas Chainsaw Massacre differ in many substantial ways from what is known about the life and activities of Ed Gein (most notably in that Gein was apparently far more a grave robber than a murderer, and he didn't go around slicing up live victims with a chainsaw), there are definite similarities between the film and the Ed Gein story as well (e.g., hanging a murder victim's corpse in the house, making functional use of the skin from dead bodies, elements of cannibalism). Whether these similiarities are sufficiently close to justify the statement that The Texas Chainsaw Massacre was "based on a true story" is up to filmgoers to decide for themselves."

---Sluzzelin talk 01:46, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Elements derived from Ed Gein, as well as from three other real-life serial killers, were also used by author Thomas Harris in creating the serial killer character Jame Gumb in his (subsequently filmed) novel The Silence of the Lambs. Since there are (thankfully) many more crime novels about serial killers than there are actual serial killers, such multiple inspirations could probably be attributed to several of them. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 03:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Psycho and Silence of the Lambs also looked to Smilin' Ed for inspiration. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 03:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Ed Gein was the inspiration for "Buffalo Bill" ( Jame Gumb - played by the brilliant Ted Levine ( 1957 - )) - but can also be seen as a model for Hannibal the Cannibal himself. My understanding is that Texas Chainsaw may also have been inspired by the Texarkana Ax Murderer, as mentioned in one of Irving Wallace's Book of Lists from the late seventies to early eighties. An article therein documents a killer active in both states around the early part of the twentieth century, I cannot recall exactly when, maybe about the teens or twenties, whose career - that is, the murders - stopped abruptly, giving authorities and historians the theories that either he ( or she ) was arrested, committed, or simply died, and thankfully did not continue as they would have done. This last theory occurs in the Glitter Gulch Murders, a supposedly based on true story straight to video crapfest I made the mistake of renting nearly twenty years ago, along with La ragazza dal pigiama giallo ( as titled on IMDB - also known as The Pyjama Girl Case . This Italian made film was set in Australia, ( starring Ray Milland ( 1905 - 1986 ) in 1977 ). In the Glitter Gulch murders a middle aged man goes round Las Vegas strangling attractive women. He then is bumped into by a couple of two bit hoods robbing liquour stores, who shoot him dead for getting in their way. There is nothing inherently safe from life's normal twists and turns in being a serial killer. There was also the very evil Albert Fish, also mentioned by Irving Wallace. It is also interesting that just after Lambs was released, there was a case in Russia of a cannibalistic serial killer, like life imitating art, imitating life. It was Andrei Chikatilo, who at the time was compared to Hannibal Lecter, before being executed. The TV show Criminal Minds mentions real life killers, as well as using the lives of some as inspiration for the sick degenerates portrayed and hunted down on their very enthralling show. Chris the Russian Christopher Lilly 05:14, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

acquisition of defunct record label

I'd like to find out who acquired Tappan Zee Records. That way, I can write a letter, suggesting Wilbert Longmire's albums can be digitally remastered and re-released on CD. Any more information out there?24.193.90.61 (talk) 21:54, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

You could try here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much. Plus, I'd like to find out where I can write to the CEO of Motown Records. That way, I can suggest Jakata's album "Light the Night" be digitally remastered and re-released on CD. I hope there's more information out there.24.193.90.61 (talk) 07:17, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

This way, I think. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:30, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much.24.193.90.61 (talk) 17:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)