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editWhen does the Oklahoma anti-abortion bill activate?
editOklahoma has passed a new law criminalising abortion in several cases, and I just wanted to know when this bill would come into effect.
I'm not American, just so you know if it's important. BSMIsEditing (talk) 06:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- The bill first has to be signed into law by the Governor, who has announced in advance he'll sign any anti-abortion bill that reaches his desk. It will then take effect 90 days after the legislature adjourns, which will make this late August.[1] The law criminalizes the provision of abortion, regardless of the nationality of the provider. --Lambiam 08:41, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- That schedule doesn't take into account the various likely court challenges. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:36, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- If the law gets struck by a court, that will certainly cause some delay. But a challenge does not by itself impede the law's taking effect. A separate court order is needed to put it on hold. Whether an Oklahoman court would be willing to issue such an order is not clear. To get the issue to be considered by a Federal court, the plaintiffs need to establish sufficient grounds for the thesis that the law violates a constitutional right. --Lambiam 13:02, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- If there's an injunction putting the brakes on a law, then the law has not taken effect. Southern states with their anti-abortion laws are hoping to force the issue to the Supreme Court with the idea that the Trump appointees might sway the majority to nullifying Roe v. Wade. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:02, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- It's probably worth pointing out that Oklahoma has a trigger law on the books, other bills under consideration including a constitutional amendment and one modeled on SB 8. "In effect" and "struck down" were issues surrounding the Texas act, and a Dobbs ruling is expect before end of term. What any of that means for "in effect" beyond your first straightforward answer i have no damn clue. fiveby(zero) 15:00, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- If the law gets struck by a court, that will certainly cause some delay. But a challenge does not by itself impede the law's taking effect. A separate court order is needed to put it on hold. Whether an Oklahoman court would be willing to issue such an order is not clear. To get the issue to be considered by a Federal court, the plaintiffs need to establish sufficient grounds for the thesis that the law violates a constitutional right. --Lambiam 13:02, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- That schedule doesn't take into account the various likely court challenges. --←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:36, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Eugene Aram's skull
editIs Eugene Aram's skull still at Lynn Museum? Thank you, DuncanHill (talk) 20:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- I think so. "see the skull of a schoolteacher who was convicted of murder! It was preserved as the Victorians believed in phrenology". Oh, but I think there is more than one museum in King's Lynn, and this one is "Stories of Lynn", located some 300 yards from the one called "Lynn Museum". Card Zero (talk) 21:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- "Stories of Lynn" seems to be located in the town hall and includes the borough archive, the borough treasury, a local history exhibition (with a display of spoons) and the Old Gaol House (home of the preserved skull), and is apparently run by King's Lynn and West Norfolk Borough Council. The Lynn Museum is located in the former Union Baptist Chapel and is run by the Norfolk Museums Service, a quango of Norfolk County Council. [2] Who knew that the museum business was so competetive? Alansplodge (talk) 22:42, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Card Zero:, @Alansplodge:, thank you both. I hope they have a couple of stern-faced men guarding it. DuncanHill (talk) 15:35, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- "Stories of Lynn" seems to be located in the town hall and includes the borough archive, the borough treasury, a local history exhibition (with a display of spoons) and the Old Gaol House (home of the preserved skull), and is apparently run by King's Lynn and West Norfolk Borough Council. The Lynn Museum is located in the former Union Baptist Chapel and is run by the Norfolk Museums Service, a quango of Norfolk County Council. [2] Who knew that the museum business was so competetive? Alansplodge (talk) 22:42, 6 April 2022 (UTC)