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Kite runner

In The Kite Runner, why does Assef joins the Taliban? --Extra 999 (Contact ^me + _contribs) 06:34, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

This is the language reference desk. The humanities reference desk, for questions about literature among other things, is down the hall, second door on the right. +Angr 06:56, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

fourth door on the left, from his perspective. remember, he's coming from the other side of wikipedia. --Ludwigs2 18:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

wouldn't that be the language desk? Rimush (talk) 19:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Translation of a photo

In Monterosso Italy there is a chruch with a painting of a skull and cross bones on the ceiling. Surrounding the painting are the words "Mortis Orationis Confrater Nitas". I'd like to know what this phase means, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by David rotman (talk • contribs) 11:13, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

"Confrater Nitas" is one word, "Confraternitas". It means "Confraternity of death and prayer" or "Brotherhood of death and prayer". See our article on purgatorial society. ---Sluzzelin talk 12:09, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Japanese trailer video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2jVpPDXcac&feature=related

Can someone be kind enough to translate what the characters are saying? Thanks 64.75.158.194 (talk) 11:57, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

You've asked this before. --KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 12:04, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I know, because I really want to know what the characters are saying! I'm sorry if I'm repeating myself or made a misdemeanour here but I hardly understand what is going on in a scene if I don't know what the people are saying. Sorry for being redundant. 64.75.158.194 (talk) 23:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I understand that, and I apologize if I came across as brusque. You see, the thing is, you are asking for the transcription of a 4-minute video with a lot of dialogue in it. It could easily be done (in half an hour or so by myself or by our other Japanese speakers), but posting the answer here would just not be plausible, as it would be massive. Beyond that, I don't know what to do. --KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 23:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

KageTora is right, but lucky for the OP, I’m bored & trying to keep up my Japanese skills. I did the first 2 minutes. Warning: I’m not a native speaker and there are mistakes in this. I’m especially confused by names, as I'm not familiar with this show.

Translation hidden to save space

西暦二千三百十三年、新生した地球連邦政府の政策により、緩やかに統一制と向かっている時代。 Narrator: In the year 2313 AD, the reborn Earth’s federal governments created an era that looked at laws leniently. その時、シルべスター・ビーンは…Narrator: In this age, Sylvester Bean…(??) 「ねね、マリ、この間のジーンは、とてもすごかったね。」Allelujah: “Hey, Marie, don’t you think Jeane was amazing just now?” (voice sinks under narration) しまったな。ああ、それだけで地球は平和というだ。Narrator: We’ve done it this time. Ah, just like that Earth is at peace. ちなみに、僕はりたい・ゆうぞうだ。映画で一人でいるのは暇なのでなHigh-voiced narrator :　By the way, my name’s Ritai Yuuzou. Being alone in this movie gives you lots of free time. 言ってなよ、そんなこと。Narrator:　Shut up, don’t tell them that. しかし、こう暇じゃ劇場までももたないな。Ritai: But when you’re this free even the theatre won’t welcome you. (??) 「どうもどうも！」Lockon: Thank you, thank you! 「ロコン・ストラトス？！」Neil: Lockon Stratos?! 「生きていたのか？」Tieria: Oh my god, he lived?! 「いいえ、死んでいます！」Lockon: No, actually I’m dead! 「そのねたはあきた。」Neil: That’s Akita’s joke… 「どうしたんだい、今日は？」Tieria: So why’re you here today? 「何？天国に面白い店が出来たんでね…暇そうだから、招待しに来た。」Lockon: What? Well, this interesting shop just opened in heaven and y’all look free, so I came to invite y’all up! 「まだ、兄さんたちの方に行きたくないな」Neil: I don’t want to go up to where my big brothers are just yet. 「ちゃんと帰してやるから安心しろ。」Lockon: I’ll bring y’all right back down so no need to worry. 『ま、それなら』Written over everyone’s heads: “Well, as long as you do…” 「さ、行こうぜ。俺につけられてな」Lockon: C’mon, let’s go! Follow me! 「ま、暇つぐしにはなるだろう。」Neil: Well, I guess this is free time then.(??) 『ライル、入れ忘れました』Text on screen: “Lyle forgot to enter.” 「マリ、行くよ。」Allelujah: Marie, we’re going now! 『ぐっどぱんや』Shop-sign in heaven: “The Good Bakery” 「ぐっどぱんや？」Tieria: “The Good Bakery?” 「こんな所につれてきたのかい、兄さんは？」Neil: I can’t believe my big bro brought us to a place like this. 「ま、そういうんだって、うまいんだぜ、ここ！」Lockon: Gee, how can you say that? This place is so good!

108.3.173.100 (talk) 05:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)Rorrima

Nicely tried, however, the point of my last message was that we cannot post it on here as it would take up too much space, especially with people correcting the mistakes in the translation - of which there are quite a few in the above translation. To the OP: I have already started on subtitling the original video. Keep checking my talkpage to see when it is finished (maybe later today or tomorrow). --KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 12:25, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Alright then. Thank you KageTora, you're very kind! (*sneaks off to corner* Yeess, now I can finally find out what theys are saying without any pests bothering me. My plan is working, and there's nothing that cheerful guy can do to stop it >:D)64.75.158.193 (talk) 01:27, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Not to really be rude or anything, but you are wasting a lot of space in the first place complaining about the whole situation. — Trevor K. — 03:52, 4 August 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yakeyglee (talk • contribs)

FWIW, typically audio transcription would cost you around $140 - $300 per hour of audio transcribed, and translation transcription can run up to three times that. So Wikipedia's just saved you a whole bunch of money. - 115.186.196.83 (talk) 06:54, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

True, and KageTora's page says (s)he translates professionally, so, OP, please be very, very grateful to Kagetora. Getting a professional-quality translation for free for such a long dialogue-intense video is pretty incredible. Rorrima (talk) 09:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Filetsteak

Are there any words to describe words like "Filetsteak" in German - in that it's made of a French word and an English word which are both pronounced like French and English, resp. When you say Fill it schtaick people laugh at you. There's that word that New Scientist loves, that means a compound word with 2 different origins, and there is another word live overcompensation or something, where words are pronounced like where people believe they come from, but this is actually incorrect. I can't remember those 2 words, and they are only peripherally related to Filetsteak, any better suggestions? Also, other examples? Aaadddaaammm (talk) 12:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

hybrid word and hypercorrection (which, incidentally, is a hybrid word) are possible articles. ---Sluzzelin talk 13:02, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Macaronic may be the word you're thinking of. The word television being a macaronic word and In Dulci Jubilo being a macaronic composition. Sussexonian (talk) 20:49, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

It's similar to, if not a subset of Pseudo-Anglicism--71.111.229.19 (talk) 12:44, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Japanese language help for BLP prod

After Kenji Midori was BLP prodded, someone added this as a reference. Could someone look at it and try to characterise it as to whether it's reliable? Nyttend (talk) 13:10, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I've taken a look. The link in question actually leads to this page, which is Kenji Midori's profile. The website itself says it is the 'official website', and with a URL like the one it has, I have no reason to doubt that it is correct. Telephone number and postal address also appear on the bottom right. It would appear to be official and I cannot think of a reason why it wouldn't be. Hope this helps. --KägeTorä - (影虎) (TALK) 15:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. I was hoping that I'd not declined a prod simply because of someone putting a link to a totally unrelated website. Nyttend (talk) 15:54, 1 August 2010 (UTC)