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Creating a page

I want to create a page for the business i work for is this allowed? RunningImp (talk) 11:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

The short and practical answer is no. The longer and more precise answer is: technically yes, but you would need to declare a conflict of interest, abide very carefully by Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, follow the best-practice guidelines for editors with a conflict of interest, and be prepared to have your work deleted and your account blocked if you infringe any of these. I would suggest that if your only reason for being here is to write about your business, you'd probably be better off requesting that someone else do the work. If you're determined to do it yourself, spend a few months editing in other areas to get an idea of how Wikipedia works first; that way you're less likely to make mistakes. Generally speaking, editors are very strongly discouraged (though not (yet) actually forbidden) from writing about their businesses. Yunshui 雲‍水 11:53, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

want to create a page a page to but how?????????????????

(Ferk660 (talk) 15:59, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

It may be a good idea to get the feedback of other wikipedia editors on whether your business meets notability standards. Certainly you can be a good source of information about the business, but it would definitely be a good idea to get someone else to either write it for you or at the very least edit your work to conform it to wikipedia standards. :-) Bali88 (talk) 16:14, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

@Ferk660: To create an article, try the Article Wizard, but I would read Wikipedia:Your first article first, which explains the important points to writing an article. Best, Mz7 (talk) 03:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Detail of information

As a tradesman with 7 trades and 3 professions I find a lack of detail for methods of use such as best practice for silver soldering and for recipes of materials such as hydraulic concrete or plaster proportions of sand:water:pozzollana etc. Is this a policy of wiki or an oversight? TradieJohn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cappy Jack (talk • contribs) 02:01, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, TradieJohn and welcome to the Teahouse. Without knowing which of Wikipedia's four million articles you are referring to, it's a bit hard to answer your question for sure. The answer is probably that it is policy: see Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal. You may find something useful in our sister project Wikiversity, or failing that on WikiHow (which is unconnected with Wikipedia). --ColinFine (talk) 12:02, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

ColinFine thank you for your kind reply. Obviously I out of my depth. My life has been concerned with building things by hand. While I was alive to buy the first laptop and learned several computer languages none of these would do the work for me. An encyclopedia that is theory only and does not cover the practical aspect of making thing is building castles in the air. You can not use its knowledge to build or make anything. It is 'use' less for a large range of people seeking knowledge. Now I understand how use less wikipedia is becoming, and how hard it is to incorporate practical knowledge, I will stick to simple edits adding what practical things I have learned. Thank you. CappyJack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cappy Jack (talk • contribs) 09:20, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, TradieJohn. I don't think you are out of your depth: you are just expecting Wikipedia to be one kind of tool when it is another kind, which perhaps is less useful for the things you want to do but suits other people fine. It can't contain every possible piece of information, and the people who set up Wikipedia decided that it should not contain "How To" information. But within the scope of the Wikimedia Foundation there is another project which does contain these: Wikiversity. Like Wikipedia it is a collaborative project, so I expect they would welcome you adding information in areas where you have skills. --ColinFine (talk) 17:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you ColinFine. Tradesmen laugh at university graduates because universities are fountains of theory but tradesmen actually make things. A site named university would seem even more theoretical than an encyclopedic site. I am a trier though and will give it a go. CappyJack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cappy Jack (talk • contribs) 13:39, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Adding a picture

Hi there, I am wanting to add a image onto a page and I am unsure on how to do so, if anyone could help me please. Thank You ClaraRoper (talk) 12:19, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Clara, welcome to the Teahouse. This very much depends on the image. What sort of image is it, who created it, and when and where was it first published, if it has been? Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:04, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Arthur, I have re-created it, its just a diagram about Problematic Internet Use. I found it on a presentation when researching into the topic. ClaraRoper (talk) 13:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Clara, unfortunately the copyright in this case would still rest with the original creator of the diagram, so it can't be used on Wikipedia unless that person wished to freely license it. Sorry. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Arthur, could i add in the original and reference it? Its an online pdf file of a PowerPoint, it has the author etc but does it fit under the categories of the non-free guidelines? ClaraRoper (talk) 14:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Talk Page for Articles for Creation

A user recently moved my submitted draft here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Image_Studio_Lite. Since this is on a Talk page itself, what is the best way to post a question for people who will come along to edit the article? Would the Afc comment work? It seems like comments are only for editors. Thanks for any advice, I have looked at many Afcs and don't see a solution. Sam at LI-COR (talk) 14:16, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Sam, welcome to the Teahouse. You're an editor too! So yes, using an AfC comment is fine. The AfC system is somewhat clumsy in this respect, so at some point in the future the new Draft format will allow submissions to have proper talk pages of their own. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 14:25, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Arthur goes shopping: Thank you for the advice, I will use the comment feature then. I was mostly confused because it seems that so few people who submit an Afc use this feature to reply to comments, maybe I just didn't look at enough Afcs (or maybe submitters don't know they can use it). It might be helpful to rewrite the Template:Afc comment page to include that comments can be used to talk to editors. The Usage section now reads: "This template is used for articles submitted through the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process, when you have a comment for the submitter." Thanks Again! Sam at LI-COR (talk) 14:41, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

German wiki

Hello, How does one point to an article in the German wiki? I tried the word , but, like everything in Wikipedia, it was not so simple. Thank you! ZCB135 (talk) 12:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. To link to the German Wikipedia article on Germany, it is [[:de:Deutschland]], which renders as de:Deutschland, or you can code it as [[:de:Deutschland|]], to render as Deutschland. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:17, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

ZCB135, there's an easier way to link articles across the different Wikipedias that won't require you to edit the article here to add a link. I'll use an article you changed as an example. First, click on the article here (Oleg Postnov). On the left-hand navigation menu, at the bottom you'll see a section called Languages. You should see Deutsch there now, but it wasn't originally. To add it, I clicked on the "Edit Links" link at the end of the Languages section. I selected the language I wanted (Deutsch) then the article name. The German wiki uses a more complete name so I had to search for that, but found it and used that. That's the preferred way to link articles between languages. Good luck! Ravensfire (talk) 14:42, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Google Search

I just had my article accepted (yay!), but it is very difficult to find. How do I make it more searchable. The title is Two-photon circular dichroism. I have to type that in exactly to find it on Wikipedia, it is nearly impossible to find it via Google and if I type in the acronym (TPCD) I am immediately directed to the page for The Pussy Cat Dolls. Advice?NOMS-UCF (talk) 23:13, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi NOMS-UCF. Google's algorithms are arcane and complex, but they do usually sstart showing Wikipedia pages a few days after creation. You can, however, make the page easier to find using redirects. At present, the article will only be found if you search for Two-photon circular dichroism, using, as you've discovered, that exact format. Two photon circular dichroism, or 2-photon circular dichroism won't work. What you need to do is create these two pages as well (together with any other obvious searches that should lead to the page), but rather than putting content into them, just save them with the content #REDIRECT [[Two-photon circular dichroism]]. When anyone does a search for one of these alternates, they will be automatically redirected to the page you created instead. Hope that helps, Yunshui 雲‍水 23:26, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

I created the redirects for you. Great first article! Theroadislong (talk) 23:32, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

And as Theroadislong has already noticed, I've added redirect categories to all of them. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 00:18, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Advice? Be patient. Wikipedia's search can take 24 + hours to update while Google's crawlers can take 2-3 days Arjayay (talk) 23:21, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Want to know what I do.....I just edit the article as much as possible (real edits...don't try to do Help:Dummy edits or other work just to drive up hits. But, if you continue to work on the article....that, in itself tends to drive it up on Google. Remember...only real edits.--Mark Miller (talk) 02:39, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

When I search on Google, NOMS-UCF, your Wikipedia article is now #6 in the search results, beating out an article published by the American Physical Society. The first five hits all appear to be highly technical articles. So you are doing very well. Mark Miller is correct that continued improvement of the article may push it up a bit in Google search results. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:13, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much!!! I am assuming that means that The Pussycat Dolls already have the redirect for TPCD. Is there any way to overcome that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NOMS-UCF (talk • contribs) 19:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Googling TPCD, neither Two-photon circular dichroism, nor The Pussy Cat Dolls appear on the first page but these things are fleeting, and ranking is not very important. There are a number of other uses of TPCD in the Google search, although I don't know if we have articles on any of them. TPCD could be made into a WP:disambiguation page - listing The Pussy Cat Dolls, Two-photon circular dichroism and any other articles we have that fit the acronym, but it cannot be changed into a redirect to just Two-photon circular dichroism. - Arjayay (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of algorithms (I know this is kinda off topic but I wasn't sure where to ask it), does anyone know how Wikipedia decides what to suggest when you're searching for stuff? Is it the same way Google's search suggestions work? And also I've always wondered how long it takes between when you create an article and when it shows up in Wikipedia search suggestions. Answers would be awesome. Jinkinson talk to me 14:53, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Userbox messed up

Hi, I just created my user page and I tried to put some userboxes in. For some reason, they are scrambled, all over the place. I've seen people with userboxes all neat. Culd you please tell me how to fix that? TheQ Editor (talk) 15:00, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. It's worth looking at someone else's user page that you like the look of to see how they have organised it. A simple way is along the lines of this change, which you are of course free to revert if you wish. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:06, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. TheQ Editor (talk) 15:12, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

starting out

I need help before I write my article. Knight xenon (talk) 15:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Knight xenon. Welcome to the Teahouse. What sort of help do you need with your article? You can read about making your first article here. K6ka (talk | contribs) 16:04, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

wiki link years?

I'm a bit confused. On a page such as march 20 where many years are listed, why are some years linked while others are not? I've noticed this on many date pages. It seems to me either all should be linked or none for consistency. In my opinion, I don't think any of them should be linked. If someone is looking for events of a certain day giving them a link to an entire year is going off on a wild tangent if you ask me. Anyway, thought maybe I'd get some input here to help me understand. Kap 7 (talk) 16:36, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. I think you'll see that the first occurrence of each year is linked, but not later occurrences. In general, dates (or parts thereof) aren't linked in articles, see WP:DATELINK. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:45, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Notices

What are DR notices ? i had uploaded few pictures of Sweet pea flowers. Bot has marked it with caption DR Notices
at this address User:OgreBot/Uploads by new users/2014 March 14 06:00 Aftab Banoori ^{(Contributions) (Talk)} 15:55, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Aftabbanoori, and welcome to the Teahouse. Going through your Commons uploads, I don't see any DR notices (or maybe I just didn't check every image). Could you link us directly to an image that has the notice? K6ka (talk | contribs) 16:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Dear K6ka thanks for your reply here is the link
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:OgreBot/Uploads_by_new_users/2014_March_14_06:00#Aftabbanoori_.2888_edits.29

Aftab Banoori ^{(Contributions) (Talk)} 17:26, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

DR notices are presumably "Deletion request notices", so it is presumably referring to this section on your Commons user talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks David Bidduph
Aftab Banoori ^{(Contributions) (Talk)} 17:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Mice would like to make payments

My name is Mice wishing to know the contact details of the paid pages administrators. How do i make payments for the pages of Cleo Bonny. I have tried to look for the numbers or email. please assist with contact details. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micenzeru (talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Cleo bonny reading is the article created but with a history of the cleo bonny reading ambassador being edited by wrong people who has no understanding of cleo bonny reading ambassador. I think i can help with cleo bonny reading ambassador as a new user by requesting to contact the administrators help with the contact details. Cleo Bonny reading ambassador could make a good article as it is notable person.

Cleo Bonny reading ambassador can be created by paid pages administrators. If there are contact details for an administrators please refer them to — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micenzeru (talk • contribs) 14:34, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

You added this message to the section below, but it presumably belongs here so I moved it. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:47, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Micenzeru. I'm not sure what you are asking. Wikipedia has no article on Cleo Bonny (though there was one which was deleted in November 2013 as "unambiguous promotion or advertising"), and doesn't have paid pages. I suspect you are actually asking about some other system (maybe Facebook?), not Wikipedia at all. This page is for help on editing Wikipedia only. --ColinFine (talk) 18:20, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Highest Status for a Minor

What Rights can a minor Have? TitusFox 18:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

@Titusfox: Pretty much anything except Checkuser, Oversighter, Steward, or a seat on ARBCOM. --Jakob (talk) 18:49, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jakec: Seriously? What About Admin? TitusFox 18:52, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

There have been lots of English Wikipedia admins who happened to be minors, probably dozens. Many of them keep quiet about it.

However, in the present RfA climate, it would be extremely difficult for a minor to become an admin, especially if they had been open about being a minor anywhere on Wikipedia or that could be connected with their Wikipedia identity.

(Oh, and to answer the question in the section title specifically, probably Wikipedia:BUREAUCRAT, though there may have been the odd checkuser or arb who got in a long time ago and also lost the position a long time ago; and who knows what may happen on other, smaller Wikipedias.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Wiki commons alignment

Is it possible to accurately position content brought in from Wiki commons into a Wikipedia article beyond alignment  ? TomFirth19 (talk) 02:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Well, how far up/down the article the image appears is most directly influenced by where you insert the code for the image in edit mode. But the code can specify not just alignment, but also things like image size, frame size and image caption. Wikipedia:Picture tutorial goes through this in more detail. Hope that helps! It Is Me Here ^{t / c} 20:04, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Changing user name

(How do you change a personal user name to a proper name?8.14.164.3 (talk) 20:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean but if you have a user account and would like to change the name of it then see Wikipedia:Changing username. We can say more if you tell us the names. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:29, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Help finishing up a new article

{{Delay archiving}} Hello. So any advice on finishing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Hans_S._Falck to get it approved? I also have a concept model jpg and a photo of Dr. Falck and can't figure out how to add them... ThanksCyn Corrigible (talk) 22:30, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Copyright - adding images

Hi,

I want to use images that are available online on the South Dublin County Library website. The user licences suggests I am free to download and reproduce it, but the last paragraph seems to contradict this. I would like to know what formalities I need to go through to add it to Wikipedia and credit the original owner:

Here is an example

http://source.southdublinlibraries.ie/handle/10599/10297

This is the User licence:

================================================================================
                            | Use Licence |
================================================================================
Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 1.0

You are free:
- to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work
- to make derivative works

Under the following conditions:
- Attribution.

You must give the original author credit.
- Non-Commercial.

You may not use this work for commercial purposes.
- Share Alike.

If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute
the resulting work only under a license identical to this one.
For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the
license terms of this work. Any of these conditions can be waived if you get
permission from the author.

Your fair use and other rights are in no way affected by the above.
***********************************************************************

This work is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution- NonCommercial-
ShareAlike License. To view a copy of this license, visit:
URL (human-readable summary): http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/1.0/

URL (legal code): http://creativecommons.org/worldwide/uk/translated-license
================================================================================

South Dublin Libraries do not hold the reproduction rights to this image.
If you wish to copy or reproduce this image, please contact the copyright
owner directly

I've put a <pre>...</pre> tag around the license for readability. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 02:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I would be very grateful for advice

Killimordaly (talk) 23:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

You can't use such images on Wikipedia, sorry. If you can persuade the image owner to agree to Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries, then you can use it on Wikipedia. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 00:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia requires freely licensed content to be pretty much unrestricted, Killimordaly. It can be reused by anyone for any purpose, and crediting the creator is the only significant restriction. That means that it can be used for both commercial and non-commercial purposes. Please refer to WP:CC-BY-SA for the text of the best current license for content on Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

saint andrews world golf festival 2012

hi i live very near st.andrews in fife. i came across this page when casually surfing the web. it says in the page that this is the first saint andrews world golf festival. IT NEVER HAPPENED!!! the festival did not happen in 2013 either. if you go to you tube and find their entry for this event there. you can see "evidence" of a festival taking place. film footage og a few members of the public hitting golf balls in odd places. and then a still of charactors hitting a shot up market st. the main shopping street. it is posed the shot never happened. this whole page is about conning investors and has nothing to do with st.andrews. it is based in the USA and appears to me to be a pyramid type con Borismcdoris (talk) 21:27, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Borismcdoris. Many thanks for catching that. Looks like the article should probably be deleted. If you're inclined to jump right into Wikipedia stuff, start the process by going to WP:AFDHOWTO and following the process described there. If not, I or another Wikipedian will take some action within a day. If we find evidence that the article is a hoax, action will be even faster. Thanks again and take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·ʇuoɔ) Join WER 21:46, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

The deletion debate is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saint Andrews World Golf Festival. Input is welcomed. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:23, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Moving tables within an article

I am currently editing the article on angiogenesis inhibitors and am having some difficulties with the in-text tables. There should be one table underneath the heading endogenous regulation and another under exogenous regulation. I want to move the table with two columns (for inhibitors and mechanism) to the section on endogenous regulation, but cannot figure out how to do so. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Rglastet (talk) 15:32, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the teahouse RGlastet. That is a tricky one. I've done some basic table editing so I thought I could help you out but the table in that article is beyond my understanding. There look to be two tables, one with two columns and then one right beneath it with three columns. So I looked for the demarcation between the two but I can't find it and I think that there is really just one table that is being displayed with two columns and then three. How to pull them apart I don't know. If I were working on this I would just recreate two tables from scratch but there may be a better way to do it that someone with more knowledge of tables than I have can figure out. Sorry, I know that isn't very helpful. MadScientistX11 (talk) 19:07, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Ho Rglastet. The two-column table was actually in the right place - under the endogenous regulation section - but it hadn't been closed with a |} at the end, so the software included the following section as en extension of the table. That's why it was appearing in the wrong place. I've closed the table, and it now displays correctly. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:53, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

kindly help to finish my article

hello, this is the error i receive from my page, kindly help me to solve it

This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. This article does not cite any references or sources. (March 2014) This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find links tool for suggestions. (March 2014) Ylmazcsk (talk) 09:25, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. Each of those messages has at least one word in blue. These are wikilinks to pages which will give you appropriate advice. When you have read them, if you have any specific questions please ask. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:15, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Glancing again at your article I see that changes have been made since those tags were applied. It now has references & is no longer an orphan, so I have removed those tags. I notice, however, that the references are all bare urls, so I have tagged the article accordingly, & again there are links to pages to help you solve that problem. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:23, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Precise positioning of images

Is it possible to precisely position an image from the Wiki Commons on an article, beyond justify.

Thanks TomFirth19 (talk) 01:23, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the tea-house. AFAIK you cannot position an image - but there would be very little point. The layout varies enormously depending on the viewer's screen. Look at the same page on a PC. a tablet and a phone - or just alter the page-width, or the pixilation, of your PC screen - the text will wrap, and pictures will move - sometimes pictures will even move into totally different sections. Some editors spend hours trying to perfect a page format, without realizing that almost everyone else sees a completely different layout. - Arjayay (talk) 08:48, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Extended image syntax for image options. It doesn't mention that page content, including images, can be wrapped in position CSS, but that will often give a horrible result for many others than the editors who add it, unless they really know what they are doing and how it works in various circumstances (I don't). What exactly do you want with which image in which article? There may be a way to get the layout you want with normal image code without breaking the page for others. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:28, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Notice of suspected copyright issues

I posted a new picture in an article that replaced an old one. I got a notice that it was suspected of copyright issues. It is not. I even wrote an email to ORTS authorizing use and it was still deleted. How do I fix this Mediainsites (talk) 14:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Mediainsites, welcome to the Teahouse. You made three nearly identical posts to different existing sections. I removed the first two posts and moved the third here and gave it a heading. I see your post is about commons:File:Ken Mahoney.jpg and the notice at commons:User talk:Mediainsites. I don't have OTRS access and don't have access to deleted Commons pages so somebody else can hopefully help. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Translating an article

Hi, I just wanted to translate an article from EN to IT and ES (which I saw it does not exist), with some cultural contextualizations. I'm expert in the matter, so I'll ground the language and cultural details on specific information. I thought this could be a good contribution. I just couldn't find how to create a language version of an existing article. Could somebody help? Thanks! Jraffa

16:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)16:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)16:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)Jraffa (talk)

Hello, Jraffa, and welcome to the Teahouse. Adding to any of the language Wikipedias is welcome. I'm no familiar with the process, but you can find information about how to proceed at Translate us. --ColinFine (talk) 16:31, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Great, thanks Jraffa (talk) 16:33, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

additional setting agent for cement and plaster in wet conxitions

Is washing soda a setting agent (pozzolana) to ensure cement turns to concrete in wet conditions? CappyJack — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cappy Jack (talk • contribs) 03:55, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello again, Cappy Jack. This page is for asking for help in editing Wikipedia. If the article pozzolana doesn't help, then I suggest you ask at the Reference Desk, which is the best place for general knowledge questions. --ColinFine (talk) 16:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Harold Finch (Person of Interest)

Hello. I have a bit of trouble. You see, there is an article, which I know you guys have probably been aware of at the time. It goes by the name of Harold Finch (Person of Interest). I am at the point where I can't really do this all by myself. If any of you want to volunteer to help, I will sincerely appreciate it. Thank you. Sherlock502 (talk) 04:19, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello Sherlock502. I've never seen the show, so I can't be of much help. However, this recent article from CBS might be useful, and could help establish notability. It contains quotes from the actor portraying Finch. (I also linked the article in your query for convenience) ~I hope this helps a little, ~Eric:71.20.250.51 (talk) 06:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

• Lauren Moraski (March 18, 2014). ""Person of Interest": Michael Emerson on future of Finch and the Machine". CBS News. CBS Interactive, Inc.

I appreciate you trying to linking the article from CBS News, but I think that's not enough. I'm actually trying to look for a way to reformat the content of the article. Sherlock502 (talk) 16:46, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Anyone else? Sherlock502 (talk) 16:54, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Reliable sources for Psychological article?

I am currently contributing to the Social penetration theory page as part of my University work and I wondered where I could find some good information to include in my section 'Rewards and costs assessment'.

Thank you for time

Archiedale1204 (talk) 16:02, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Not that I want to do your work for you, but Google Books and Google Scholar are both good places to look for academic sources... Yunshui 雲‍水 10:46, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for replying.

I am currently looking into Google Books and Google Scholar, both are proving to be quite useful!

Archiedale1204 (talk) 16:55, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

List of people who disappeared mysteriously need to create new section

I noticed this list is outdated. There no section for those who vanished in 2013 so now I want to create 2014 and add Robert Leslie Davis, who disappeared on February 26, 2014. But so should I create a blank section for 2013? I don't have anyone to put there. It looks tacky like no one disappeared in 2013. I am sure they did so should I try to find one to fill out the list? Apriv40dj (talk) 15:28, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I found someone for 2013, so I am now going to try to add two new sections, please look and see if I messed it up and correct it. Apriv40dj (talk) 15:59, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I created it by copy/pasting the text and changing the dates. I think it worked out great. I hope so. If someone wants to add more missing people to that list, that would be great also. You never know if it would help find them to have it listed there. Apriv40dj (talk) 00:08, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

So, I checked the page again, and I see some user has deleted what I did for no reason, I did list references. His reason was listed as no article about them. I was given to understand that people do not get their own article if they are not in two big newspapers or something like that. Please check this and see if it unfair. I would have created a whole article about the person, but was told that hardily anyone rated to have their own article. But, I can easily do it, but then I would be "in trouble" for creating an article for the "undeserving." Apriv40dj (talk) 00:16, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

List_of_people_who_disappeared_mysteriously I don't know why no one has replied, now I feel like what was the point, I should just delete this if no is replying. It goes something like the list is only for those with articles, but the requirements for having a an article will be impossible to fulfill. But, it does not state that this is only a list for those who have articles have also disappeared. That is why the list looks so tacky and incomplete nothing is added to it for 2013 and 2014, there are plenty of missing people but no way to add them. nor does it say, this is a list of people we think are very special, it just says it's a list of people who disappeared. That policy should be clearly stated at the onset. I just wasted a huge amount of time and accomplished nothing. Even thought it could be possible in the future to collect enough it does not seem worth bothering, since the list is going look bad anyway with missing years. Apriv40dj (talk) 05:10, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Apriv40dj, the list of people who disappeared mysteriously is for people who are notable for reasons other than their disappearance and therefore already have articles about them on Wikipedia. So those people need to satisfy the general notability guidelines and sad as his disappearance is, the 93 year old WW2 veteran you are discussing isn't likely to meet those guidelines. Nthep (talk) 11:56, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I found that out last night from being on the chat, but I still it should be posted somewhere "do not add to this list unless there is an article first". Then it seems as if I was being pressed to create an article, it was deleted so fast I could not even link it back before it was deleted. Then it should say also you can't create an article for a person to add to list. I feel this why the list is defunct with no new people added. For one thing even if Discovery ID put him on the show Disappeared it would take years for the show to created filmed created and then air on TV. But, how many 93 olds just get in a car and drive away into the night never to be seen again and no car found even? This I feel makes it different and significant. I feel there must be a crime involved or that people who disappear there will be a reason that we will find later on, but is not clear at the time. Therefore it is a mystery, not just a run of the mill guy walking out on his wife. Apriv40dj (talk) 15:41, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

oh no my font has gone bad, I see bad fonts Apriv40dj (talk) 15:49, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I just wanted to add there is an open facebook that the family created called "Find Robert Davis" which shows his world war two metals, but I don't know anything at all about the military and I did ask what they all mean to see if I could get him to qualify under military reasons. The chat guy said if he was important in the war I could find references and mentions, but I did not find anything about him in the military and don't know how to search military libraries. My grandfather on my mother's side was in the Pacific, but he's dead and I can't ask him how to search like maybe magazines that veterans may get that cover things like this? If anyone see this and wants to make him a page whom is a military person or has that knowledge? Apriv40dj (talk) 15:50, 21 March 2014 (UTC) I just checked and I see Leah Peebles does not have a page and out of all of the episodes of Disappeared red, hers is the most interesting. So, if she does not deserve to have a page, then no one really does belong on the list unless they were already famous. Apriv40dj (talk) 16:08, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Don't confuse an appearance on a TV show with Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Read those, understand what make a person notable in Wikipedia terms and try and base an article on those. How interesting someone's story is on Disappeared is not a criteria to work from. Nthep (talk) 17:14, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

edit a biography not yet posted

how do i find a biography i entered but need to edit and it has not yet posted2602:306:C4CC:1C0:570:86FA:751D:E3C9 (talk) 15:21, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, person with an IPv6 address and welcome to The Teahouse. Do you have an account, and were you just not signed in when you posted this question? If not, you would find the answer at Special:Contributions/2602:306:C4CC:1C0:570:86FA:751D:E3C9.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:50, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

And having checked your contributions, I see this edit is your only one. Is it possible you submitted the biography under a different IP? If not, and you were not signed in, it is possible you clicked on "preview" and your contribution was never submitted.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:52, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Page Creation Help

Hello, I was wondering how to create a new wikipedia page. Is there a special thing that I have to do to create one or do I have to be granted permission from anybody? Mysterious.Brain (talk) 17:13, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. There is a small technical requirement called autoconfirmation, but you've already met it. All you need is an account. So go ahead, no further permission is needed! All you have to do is type in the name of an article that doesn't exist, and there should be a link to create it.

However, you may want to read about your first article before you begin, because articles that don't meet Wikipedia's standards will likely be deleted. If you're not sure about this, you can head to articles for creation, where you can create a draft and have it reviewed before it becomes an actual article. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:56, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank-You Mysterious.Brain (talk) 18:27, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Pictures

How do I add a picture to my sandbox? Billybob5185 (talk) 20:17, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

You will need to upload it first. But, because your sandbox draft is not an actual article, you will have to make sure that the creator (if it isn't you) has released it under a free license. If not, you will have to wait before uploading and including it.

If you took the picture, or the creator has released it under a free license, you should upload it on Wikimedia Commons, which will allow you to use it here. (See the picture tutorial for how to add it to your sandbox.) Anon126 (talk - contribs) 22:38, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Should I use U.S. English or British English?

I am currently editing and contributing to the Internet Addiction Disorder page and I am wondering whether or not to use U.S. English or British English spelling. Thanks in advance. TomLee91 (talk) 14:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi TomLee91. The article currently uses American English, so you should continue to use that variant. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:12, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Many Thanks, Yunshui. TomLee91 (talk) 14:16, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I fixed the word organization, from organisation, but it would be good to be able to site the rule in case of challenges. But, does this mean each article goes with either British or American and the decision is made article by article or does it mean we always default to American? Apriv40dj (talk) 15:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

There is no preference for US, UK, Australian, Canadian, Caribbean or any other branch of English, unless the article has WP:Strong national ties e.g. an article about a UK citizen who has lived and worked in the UK most of their life, would be in UK English. With other articles, it depends solely on who starts the article, but once started, unless there is consensus, the branch of English should not be altered. The one essential is that every article should be consistent and use just one style. See WP:ENGVAR - Arjayay (talk) 15:45, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Having looked at the article - I am going to disagree with Yunshui - with recognise, categorise, and travelling, as well as the organisation you have changed, IMHO it is in British English - there are no color/colours, neighbors/neighbours or the other words that I usually check. - Arjayay (talk) 16:14, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you all, I will look into this further, the page is being edited and added to by myself and classmates as part of a module at the University of Hull, we are all British so it is highly likely my class mates have posted in British English. TomLee91 (talk) 16:18, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

The page's original author used US English, and the article kept the same usage until very recently. It's only since the class has started editing that the page has started to mix US and British English, which is why I would encourage TomLee91 and his cohort to stick to the relevant policy. As a British English user myself, every instance of "theorized" is like a poke in the eye, but them's the breaks... Yunshui 雲‍水 20:01, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I will do what I can to change the article to be consistently in U.S. English :) TomLee91 (talk) 21:09, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I failed to be clear, I changed the word "organization" in another article somewhere else, not this particular article. I was just wondering, but got answered, first one should determine if article deservers British or American English. Since the article was about an Italian Subject Matter, I have no idea. But it was not in the Italian Language. I don't actually speak Italian and would not edit in Italian. Apriv40dj (talk) 22:49, 21 March 2014 (UTC) Apriv40dj (talk) 22:49, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

An article about an Italian subject should follow the English variation established when that article was first written. That is the simple rule that allows us to avoid widespread battles between the advocates of American English and the supporters of British English. Those who relish such fights must confine themselves to articles about U.S. - U.K. relations and biographies of people who spend half their lives flying between London and New York. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:23, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Articles for Creation

Hello! I recently reviewed my first AFC's! They were Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/MISUMI_USA and Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Rentalcars.com Can any hosts please look at them and see if I was too harsh, overexaggerated, etc? WooHoo! • Talk to me! 00:41, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I think that you did a pretty good job, BrandonWu. However, I am not aware of a policy or guideline that says we must have an article about a parent company before we have an article about one of its subsidiaries. It is easy for me to imagine a scenario where a parent company is very low-key and not notable, but owns a highly innovative, publicly visible company discussed widely in reliable sources. The subsidiary would then be notable. It may also be that no one has yet gotten around to writing an article about the parent company. Also, I recommend that you refer people to the manual of style as well as referencing for beginners. Many of these drafts are very poorly formatted. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:59, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

@BrandonWu: If I may add another note, I noticed that you linked to WP:ADVERTISEMENT, but that is a "disambiguation" of sorts. I think WP:ARTSPAM ("article spam") is more appropriate in these cases. Anon126 (talk - contribs) 02:38, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Another quick question! On Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation, it says that I should have 500 undeleted edits. Should I stop reviewing, and then edit up to 500+ edits or should I keep reviewing? WooHoo! • Talk to me! 22:30, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I recommend that you follow that limitation, BrandonWu. If you are interested in reviewing articles now, I recommend that you consider Articles for Deletion. Any editor can participate there, and you can find today's feed at WP:AFDT. I have been active there for several years, and would be happy to answer any of your questions. We need your help. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:30, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thanks Cullen! I wonder if I can help with the Backlog Drive! WooHoo! • Talk to me! 23:42, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Images

Hello fellow wiki people,

A while back I was greeted with a welcome message (as a “newbie”) with the comment that I like to work with images and reminded about the rules about posting them. While I agree with the rules, I don’t believe I’ve uploaded any to the Wiki. Perhaps I just missed something or it was just a generic one to the newcomer’s and don’t be concerned? And, yes I’m still new to all the neat things we can do and contribute here and glad to be a part of it. Still have a lot of reading to do.

Regards, Karl in Spokane http://www.srgclub.org (talk) 04:08, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Karl Shoemaker. On April 9, 2013, you made this edit in which you said, "I am contributing to the Wiki page on snowmobiling and wish to upload an example maneuver of mountain type of riding." That implied you were interested in uploading images. The message with information about uploading images was posted to your talk page a few hours later by an experienced editor trying to help you with your declared interest. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:20, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Subheadings or bullet points?

I have a proposed revision to the Griffiths criteria on the Internet Addiction Disorder article. I am currently wondering whether or not to change it to have the six criteria in subheadings or numbered bullets as they are on the live page. Please see my sandbox too see what I plan to add to the live page. TomLee91 (talk) 14:57, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. The right place for such a discussion is the article's talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 03:34, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look. TomLee91 (talk) 09:25, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

File licensing

I've just uploaded a file but I was not able to find the correct license in the File Upload Wizard. I wrote the code of the license but could somebody please verify if everything is right? This is the file:

Regards, Zince34' 06:04, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Zince34! Welcome to the TeaHouse! That photo's actual license is Attribution-NonCommercial 2.0 Generic (CC BY-NC 2.0)! So we can't use it on Wikipedia! I've tagged it for speedy deletion! Sorry! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 13:38, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion request declined! Not sure why! Discussion ongoing at my talk page User talk:Demiurge1000#File:Soyuz TMA-11M launch.jpg:. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:21, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

editing and posting an article on Wikipedia

I have tried to post three pages to Wikipedia for Michael E. Fryzel, Credit Union System Investment Program and CREDIT union Home Affordable Refinance program, and all three have been pulled from the site. Wikipedia cited in its error "copyright infringement" as the reason for speedy deletion. I also received a warning for spamming the website (not my intention). All of the pages had references to legitment sources. Can you walk me through how to properly post an article to wikipedia or point me to another resources (other than the one on wikipedia) that could help me?

Thanks! Tcamp2004 (talk) 19:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Had you copied the material from somewhere else? That's the usual reason for removal with that message. Anything published elsewhere, even if you wrote it yourself, is copyrighted and cannot be copied into Wikipedia. StarryGrandma (talk) 20:05, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

With some exceptions. See Wikipedia:Copyrights#Using copyrighted work from others. But mostly everything has to be written in your own words. StarryGrandma (talk) 20:10, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

@Tcamp2004: if the material is a copyright infringement it will always be deleted on sight. But you want to know how to do it right. Have a look at User:Timtrent/A good article which may be of some small help to you. PLease be very careful never to copy and paste material from other places, though. It's a big legal no-no. Fiddle Faddle 20:20, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

@Tcamp2004: Possibly the best reference for Wikipedia is the Wikipedia Help pages but if you want a one not on Wikipedia look at these books: http://trove.nla.gov.au/book/result?q=wikipedia . Regards, Ariconte (talk) 22:49, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

An Idea For An Article

After much deliberation, I have decided to do an article on my school. It's mentioned on here but it's a red link. It's recently been awarded academy status. What are Wikipedia's policies about articles about buildings? Would it's status as an academy affect it's notability? Also regarding sources, would i be able to use the school website as one of them?

Thanks Wyliecoyote1990 (talk) 20:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello Wyliecoyote1990. Any school building can be notable for architectural or historical reasons. However, most school articles focus on the school as an institution. Most primary schools are not considered independently notable, and are covered briefly in articles about their locale or school district. On the other hand, accredited, degree awarding schools are usually considered notable. This includes high schools, colleges and universities. Please see WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES, but be aware that each article is evaluated on its own merits. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:01, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Wyliecoyote1990. In answer to your last question, you may use the school's website as a source, but only for uncontroversial factual data (such as dates and names). Anything which might be taken as opinion about the school (whether favourable or unfavourable to it), or any more complicated factual claim (such as that it is the first or the biggest, or the oldest, something) must be referenced to an independent, published, reliable source. In any case, even if you do use the school's website as a source, you need other, independent published sources, because without them you cannot establish notability. --ColinFine (talk) 23:49, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Possible to embed 90 sec YouTube video in sports article?

I have found a 92 sec video on YouTube that nicely illustrates a point about a hockey player, in an article about the player. Might it be possible to embed the video in the article, at the appropriate section? Many thanks. 207.216.3.145 (talk) 04:44, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Like so many things on Wikipedia, there is no simple answer to your question. We do not allow linking to anything that may be a copyright violation. Many of the user-submitted videos on YouTube are copyright violations. On the other hand, many media organizations maintain legitimate YouTube channels that fully comply with copyright laws. You can't link to the violations, but can link to the legitimate channels. It is up to you to verify that the link is legitimate. Don't expect YouTube to do that for you.

In general, we don't embed links to an external website into the main body of an article. If it is a journalistic source, it can be used as a reference. Otherwise, it can be added to a separate "External links" section at the end of the article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:57, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for this. Re: a source that might lend some legitimacy to the video, all I can see is that it appears to come from a game televised on a US station in 1997, and that it was uploaded by a user named Blind Sky Blue. I realize that this does not constitute overwhelming support that the video is legit. In case it's of interest, the video is here [1].

I had been hoping to embed it so that there's the rectangular image indicating a video to be played. But you say that its unusual to even include a link in the body of an article. BTW, the video illustrates the skating speed of the player, a point of discussion in the article on the player--or it will be once I add that content. Might you know if there's any discussion of making it possible to feature videos that illustrate points being made in articles? Thanks for your patience with all these Q's! EMP (talk) 23:51, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Early morning person. The YouTube user Blind Sky Blue (not an official sounding name) has uploaded a total of two videos. The chance that this particular video meets Wikipedia's standards for use anywhere is nil. You can definitely use a video in a Wikipedia article, but it must be a video released under an acceptable Creative Commons license and uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. You can't just pluck a random video off the internet to make a point. Sorry. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:52, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

I much appreciate this very clear and helpful explanation. EMP (talk) 00:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC)