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How do I find vandalism?

I want to start by getting rid of vandalism but i don’t know how or where to find it. Can someone point me in the right direction? - TrlSlasher — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrlSlasher (talk • contribs) 02:04, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello there. You can look in the "Recent Changes" Section under the Wikipedia Logo to your left. Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

@TrlSlasher: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to make it better. Check out WP:VANDAL for guidance and tips for spotting and fighting vandalism. RudolfRed (talk) 02:14, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi, TrlSlasher. In addition to what was said above, I highly recommend the Twinkle and navigation popup tools. They make finding and reverting vandalism, and also warning users, much easier. Please let us know if you have any additional questions. Good luck out there! -- kewlgrapes (talk, contribs) 02:33, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Where do I go to get Twinkle? - TrlSlasher — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrlSlasher (talk • contribs) 02:42, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

As mentioned on the Twinkle page, you enable it by turning it on in the gadgets page in your preferences. Here is a link: Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. -- kewlgrapes (talk, contribs) 02:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

I don’t see it in gadget preferences. Do I need to upgrade to get access? - TrlSlasher — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrlSlasher (talk • contribs) 03:07, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, not that I'm aware of. You should see it in the "Browsing" section, six boxes from the bottom of that section. By the way, you can sign your posts with ~~~~ to automatically create a link to your user and talk pages. It's a little more useful and faster than just typing out your name on each post. :) -- kewlgrapes (talk, contribs) 04:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

No it’s not there. TrlSlasher (talk) 04:45, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

@TrlSlasher:, I have left you a note at Talk:Philip Percival, I suggest you just slow down a little and review some of Wikipedia's policies, particularly WP:3RR. Kind regards, Cavalryman V31 (talk) 06:52, 12 April 2018 (UTC).

@Cavalryman V31: @RudolfRed: @Kewlgrapes: @Thegooduser: Heads up. This was completed last night. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Architect 134 Bobherry Talk Edits 16:37, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Congdungngonhanh

What do I do about Congdungngonhanh making personal attacks on me [1] Jannaalo (talk) Jannaalo (talk) 12:50, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jannaalo: I have relocated your question which you posted in the wrong place, and have inserted it to be answered here (as is convention) at the bottom of the main Teahouse page. The Teahouse Talk page is only for matters relating to the running and operation of the Teahouse itself. I will endeavour to answer your question shortly, and you will receive another notification when that happens. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:01, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello again, Jannaalo, and welcome to our friendly Teahouse. In most difficult situations there are people on both sides, each believing they are right in something, and then getting increasingly frustrated and sometimes angry when the other editor continues to repeat the same actions again and aagin, without appearing to understand what they are doing wrong. Or at least, ignoring that fact. I have taken a quick look through the edits you and others made to the article entitled Linh Nga, and I am very pleased there has also been engagement between editors on its Talk Page. The Teahouse is not intended to be a forum for dispute resolution - there are other venues for that, overseen by experienced editors. You might wish to read more on this at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. But I would respectfully point out to you that my impression is that your repeated attempts to change, redirect and modify the article do not appear to have gone down well with some other editors. I see an administrator has now protected that page against further moves, and you have been asked on more than one occasion not to do this without proper reasoning and evidence. I think your repeated insistence on making those changes have irked other editors. Sometimes, when one person is not heeding the advice they have been given, they see the words used by the other person as aggressive and an attack upon them personally, and this might well be the perception here. In their frustrations, Congdungngonhanh's challenge to your edits may well have seemed like an attack upon you, but, for what my opinion is worth here, I feel it was born more out of frustration with your inability to take that advice. So I would recommend you not to try to make changes to that or any other article without citable evidence in future. What I mean by that is that, despite you personally knowing something about an individual 'for a fact', unless you can prove and demonstrate by means of a reference that fact to be true (i.e. to the satisfaction of everyone else here), you may not add that statement, and it will get reverted. Editors who indulge in repeated 'edit-warring' with one another do expose themselves to being blocked from editing for a period of time. I appreciate this can all be immensely frustrating, but this is how we work here. We pay little to no heed what other language Wikipedias say on the subject, although you may use non-English sources to back up any claim you wish to make. I would invite both you and any other editor to be respectful to one another. There are plenty of people here who disagree about some Wikipedia-related matter but who can carry on their discourse in a polite and collaborative manner. I hope this applies to edits made by everyone on this article. (Update: Since starting to draft this reply I realise there has been discussion in other fora (Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents) and no personal attack has been recognised there either. In future, please ask only one question in one forum to avoid duplicating volunteer effort and wasting their time. In other words, if you plan to ask a question at ANI, don't bring it here too, and do post it in the right place.) Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:42, 15 April 2018 (UTC)      

Oriental Ruthless Boy/Boys

Hey bud can you help me with my page, I need help creating it. I don’t really know how that much and it might get deleted soon if you won’t help me, please help a brother out I’m new to Wikipedia god bless — Preceding unsigned comment added by ORB 559 (talk • contribs) 19:05, 15 April 2018 (UTC) ORB 559

Hi ORB 559, welcome to the Teahouse. I don't think I will write the article for you, but I can give you advice on what you should look for. The most critical thing you need to find in order to prevent your article from being deleted is to go online or to a library and try to find reliable sources that discuss your topic: look for newspaper or magazine articles, book chapters, scholarly journal articles. Anything that offers independent and critical analysis of your subject goes a long way in showing that your topic is notable, i.e. worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. You can present your findings by adding citations to your article or by listing them at the deletion discussion. Wikipedia has a special way of determining notability: we look at the amount of reliable sources that have discussed the topic. If a lot of other reputable people have written about a topic, we can presume that the topic is worth writing about. Conversely, if not very many other reputable people have written about a topic, perhaps we shouldn't include it in Wikipedia. Hope this helps. Mz7 (talk) 19:33, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

How to see graphs of statistics about editors?

Hello, years ago I used to enter a link that showed the statistics about users. There were pie charts etc with a graphical view of the numer of articles created, edited, reverted, etc. Can somebody give me that link?

Second question. Does anybody know if there is a way to see the articles I wrote or edited and then were featured in the Did You Know section?

Thanks in advance --★ Pikks ★ ^MsG 19:12, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Pikks: For the first question, maybe you're thinking of https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/Pikks ? :-) - TNT^❤ 19:16, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that was the one. Thank you. --★ Pikks ★ ^MsG 19:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

And the answer to the second question is on your Talk page, as all nominators receive a notification about DYK nominations (see User talk:Pikks), although you can also see them via the link that There'sNoTime gave you - especially in this section. Welcome back to Wikipedia, and a warm welcome from all at the Teahouse, too. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:54, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you :) --★ Pikks ★ ^MsG 20:22, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Need article corrected....not sure what to do

I created an article to be published on Wikipedia. It was my first time doing so, and I clearly misundertood some things. What would be the best way to have an experienced editor fix the problems with it so it can be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzilisterwiki (talk • contribs) 20:39, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! I would suggest submitting a draft from your sandbox Here to avoid deletion. Good Luck and Welcome!Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:45, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Jazzilisterwiki has already created a draft, Thegooduser. It's at Draft:Jasmine Lister. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jazzilisterwiki: Hello and welcome. Looking at your draft, it seems the main issue is that the content appears to be copied from elsewhere. As explained in the notice given with your draft being declined, Wikipedia cannot accept such content unless the content has an appropriate copyright. If you own the copyright, you can follow the procedure at the Donating Copyrighted Materials page, but if you don't, you are probably out of luck. Either way, Wikipedia much prefers original text.

I noticed that your username is basically the same as the person you wrote about, Jasmine Lister ("Jazz" I presume is short for Jasmine). If you are Jasmine Lister, you should review the policy on autobiographies before you do anything else; in short, autobiographical articles are highly discouraged(though not forbidden) as people naturally write favorably about themselves. If you are not Jasmine Lister, I would suggest that you need to change your username at WP:CHU. 331dot (talk) 20:51, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm actually Jasmine's mother. I tried to follow the general format of other some other Wikipedia pages of people with the same type of career path as Jasmine. She is googled a lot a will be googled a lot lot more within the next couple of weeks for reasons I cannot say at this time, but she needs a wikipedia page. Who can I hire to just create it correctly? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jazzilisterwiki (talk • contribs) 21:02, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Jazzilisterwiki: Okay, you will definitely need to change your username, using one of the methods listed at WP:CHU. You will also need to review the conflict of interest policy at WP:COI. I think you also seem to have a common misconception about what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a means to promote someone or advance their career. No one "needs" a Wikipedia page(and, in fact there are good reasons to not want one) As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources write about an article subject. Wikipedia has no interest in what someone(or their representative) wishes to say about themselves, or how they want to be portrayed. You were correct to begin your effort as a draft, but we still cannot accept copyrighted content unless it has a license compatible with Wikipedia's or is in the public domain(which is not the case here). It will need to have original text with independent sources to support its content.

Regarding someone you could "hire", that isn't something that we can assist you with. There are people who claim to offer the service of writing a Wikipedia article, but often they are scams and even if they aren't, they cannot guarantee anything(such as that such an article would not be deleted). 331dot (talk) 21:21, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleting a userpage entry

I've made a user page on MetaWiki but have several local user pages on various other mediawiki properties. I understand I can use a "delete" template to remove the page, but I'm not sure I've done this correctly, or the timeline within which these pages will be deleted. I just added the text {{db-u1|reasoning=Global}} to the page, but I'm not sure what to expect next. Any pointers? Example page that I believe I have added the template to: Example NatHillard (talk) 04:38, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Why are you trying to delete your user page anyway? If you've made a user page on Metawiki it will be copied to those sister projects where you don't have a user page automatically.—Big Hero 06:16, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi NatHillard, welcome to the Teahouse. I suspect Big Hero thinks it's the meta user page you want to delete but it appears to be the other user pages. You did right at the English Wikipedia. Different wikis have different templates and procedures. You can try to look for the wiki in the left pane of {{Db-u1}}, {{Db-g7}}, or the general {{Db}} if the first two are missing. Only administrators at the wiki can delete pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:16, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

 Thanks for the clarification, PrimeHunter - indeed I was referring to the local variants, apologies if this was unclear! Good to know the templates vary between wikis. Thanks,

01:46, 16 April 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NatHillard (talk • contribs)

Giving proper references

Hi!

I am new and I need your help!

DI200 (a person? a bot?) keeps adding disconnected references to an article I wrote. At least they seem disconnected to me. They do not belong to works cited in the text. I thought it works like in a paper where you give the used literature in the end. Is this handled differently in Wiki?

I would like to ask this question directly to DI200, but I do not know how to contact this person. I received the following mail: "Dl2000‬ left a message on your talk page in "‪April 2018‬"...." but I cannot reply to it and find no option to write anything on his talk page.

Thanks for the help!

Katrinclaudia (talk) 21:06, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

@Katrinclaudia: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You should be able to edit and post to his user talk page; click "Edit" at the top of User talk:Dl2000. 331dot (talk) 21:27, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :Hello Katrinclaudia, welcome to our Teahouse. The user in question (Dl2000) left a note on you own talkpage to say that they had removed a large amount of copyrighted text which had been copy/pasted into the article, Sadananda. If you click the word 'talk' after their signature, you will arrive at their talkpage (and here's a link to it, too). To post a question to them, click "Add topic" - a tab which you'll see at the top of the page next to the 'View History' tab. You can add a subject heading and leave a note for them in the big box below that - just as you have done here. If you're in mobile view on a phone, things are laid out slightly differently. If you have problems, do come back. But be aware that we cannot allow copyrighted content on Wikipedia. What you add here must be based on referenced sources, but always be written in your own words. I hope this helps, Regards from the UK,Nick Moyes (talk) 21:28, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles usually have in-line references for individual statements in the article, rather than a general list of references used. This system enables interested readers to check each fact without having to read many volumes. See WP:Referencing for beginners for details. Your own website would probably not be regarded as a WP:Reliable source. It could, perhaps, be used as a reference for limited basic facts about your organisation, but not to establish WP:Notability. Dbfirs 07:09, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

First time editing

When a change is made, is it possible to have it affect other wiki post that used the incorrect phrasing? I spent a few hours correcting hockey phrasings because I play and love the sport, which makes me a little particular about how it is discussed. Just wondering if there is an ettiquet, better approaches for justification to the edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gregoman82 (talk • contribs) 07:48, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

If you change one article on this site, it almost never changes articles on other sites.

If you change an article on this site, sites that rip-off mirror Wikipedia's content may or may not update. We have no control over what they do.

If you want to change an article on this site, use the edit summary to explain what you are doing. Give a reason that doesn't go against the policies and guidelines (don't worry about reading all of them before starting, though). Basically, focus on neutrally summarizing (not copying) professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources with no additional commentary. Ian.thomson (talk) 07:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Avro Anson Aircraft

There is no record on the avro anson site which covers the loss of an avro anson across the gulf of st vincent South Aus as follows; PETTIT, John Frederick - (Flying Officer); Service Number - 406662; File type - Casualty - Repatriation; Aircraft - Avro Anson W-2556; Place - St Vincent's Gulf, South Australia; Date - 14 July 194. Might be of interest to the editor of the site.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44B8:20D:6B00:CD93:3A1E:629A:EAC2 (talk) 07:17, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello, anonymous IP user, Thanks for dropping by with that information. Could I ask you to go to the relevant article and leave a brief note on its Talk page, as you've done here? Give a reference to supporting sources would allow one of those editors to decide whether its appropriate to insert. (Dont forget to give the full year, too.) This is not something we would normally do from here ourselves. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Not able to create account with unregistered user name

Hello, I was hoping to create an account to start contributing to Wikipedia, but when I try to join it says that the name I've chosen (Kaavie) is unavailable. However, I tried to look for the user page of this name and on that page it says that the name is not registered. It looks like the name used to be taken by someone else but has since been changed. Would there be any way of registering with this now that it is no longer in use or should I just pick something different?

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.180.5.78 (talk) 07:05, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Short answer: either pick another username, or head to meta:Steward_requests/Username_changes. It will take a month if the request is accepted.

Long answer: meta:Special:CentralAuth/Kaavie tells us that the "Kaavie" username was registered on Chinese wp three years ago but no edits whatsoever have been made with it. You cannot request local "usurpation" on en-wp for accounts whose home wiki is not en-wp, per the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations, so you will need a global usurp. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Metric Vs Emperial

Does Wikipedia favour metric or imperial measurements. After all, due to the international usage of Wikipedia metric is more widely used. L.H. (talk) 01:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@Lochlan Hanham: It depends on the article. See WP:UNIT RudolfRed (talk) 01:37, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello @Lochlan Hanham: Mainly we go by what the sources say, so we would mostly only use Imperial measurements in an article about the US where sources state amounts in Imperial (and we generally put the metric equivalent in parentheses). It's not purely the US, and the UK and Ireland also use Imperial for certain specific measurements despite generally using Metric. As a side-note, in articles about India we also use lakh and crore for amounts (with International numbers in parentheses) in cases where crowds or financial amounts are so-mentioned in sources. MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:20, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I will also add that whatever you choose to go with in your article, it is sometimes a good idea to template the numbers with {{convert}} to give the other version. Be mindful of context - if you are speaking of scanning tunneling microscope, don't convert micrometers into thous (every reader will know what a micrometer is), if you are speaking about the distance between two cities in a clearly metric (imperial) country, readers might still be interested in the conversion of km to miles (or the reverse). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Delete

Plz delete Module:GetLocalDigits Capankajsmilyo (talk) 06:51, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Capankajsmilyo, welcome back. As you created this Module, and nobody else has worked on it, you can request its deletion yourself. Just add a deletion request template to the top of the page. Possibly the most appropriate one for a Module would be {{db-g7}}. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:08, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, but {{db-g7}} is a template and templates can't be added to modules. User:Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 08:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@Capankajsmilyo: Ah, I wasn't absolutely sure. One to leave for a more experienced editor to advise on, then. But a quick follow-up check at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion (to which I was redirected from WP:MFD) suggests {{Db-author}} for self-created templates (and presumably therefore, modules). Does that help? Nick Moyes (talk) 08:32, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

As I already said WP:Modules are different from WP:Templates. User:Capankajsmilyo^{(Talk | Infobox assistance)} 08:43, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Indeed, one can't put the template in a module. Easiest way I reckon would be to put {{db-g7}} on the talk page of the module - which I've done. Galobtter (pingó mió) 09:00, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

New article title - redirect question

Hi! I'm writing the English version of an originally Spanish article, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/CTXT. I've written the draft (not yet submitted for review) but just saw that the title I chose, CTXT, already redirects to a page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_file). Do I need to change the title? And if so, how do I do that?

Here's the draft I'm working on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:CTXT#Description — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artichofa (talk • contribs) 09:36, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Since there is no obvious primary topic here, I suggest that your article should be named "CTXT (publication)", then the existing redirect CTXT should become a disambiguation page with a link to your article, and also to Text file. Dbfirs 10:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I agree with Dbfirs, Artichofa, but I suggest that you not worry about it: when you submit your draft for review, the reviewer who accepts it will sort out the naming and disambiguation. --ColinFine (talk) 10:59, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

How do I request update a page on behalf of a brand I work for?

Hi, I work for a brand and we are hoping to get some inaccuracies amended on their page. How do I go about doing this? I know that if you are associated with the brand it is bad protocol to make any updates myself so how do I request changes? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C0:5002:3E01:4030:1569:315E:724E (talk) 13:17, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello IP using BT broadband.
Firstly, thank you for asking, rather than just editing the page,
You do, indeed, have a Conflict of Interest, and our main guidelines are at WP:COI, or the slightly easier Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide.
To answer your question, you need to make an edit request on the talk page of the relevant article, eaxplaining what needs to be changed, and why, and including a reference to support your changes. You then need to add {{request edit}} which will add your request to the requested edit list. Unfortunately, there is a bit of a backlog on that list, but an uninvolved editor will consider your request and amend the article, provided the proposed edit is of a neutral point of view and Verified by your references. - Arjayay (talk) 14:13, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Photos for biographies

Hi. I'm very new here. A biography I recently wrote was approved, which is great! I'd like to add a photograph or two to accompany it, but I wanted to know the protocol first. My biography is of a journalist. There are many photos of him in existence. Does the photo have to be retrievable online? How do I determine whether it is okay to use here? Must I get the permission of the publisher, or would that be helpful? Thank you.DiamondRemley39 (talk) 11:55, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

DiamondRemley39 Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, so you need to obtain a copyright-free image, or obtain a written release of copyright from the copyright holder (which is difficult, and complicated). Almost everything you find on-line - or in magazines is copyright, so cannot be used on our articles. Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy.
However, if you are talking about Neal Russo who died in 1996, you may have a case for claiming "Fair-use" of an existing image, as it is impossible to take a new image. Please see Wikipedia:Non-free content for the guidelines on that. - Arjayay (talk) 14:25, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Women Cross DMZ and Christine Ahn

I’m writing to you about the non profit organization I work for Women Cross DMZ. In this day with all that’s going on with the tension with North Korea/South Korea, and the USA, I think people would really benefit from being able to access info about our organization on Wikipedia. There's a lot stirring with the impending Trump/Kim Jong Un meeting and our upcoming NK/SK DMZ Peace Walk in May with the Nobel Women's Initiative, which will be heavily covered in the media. Currently there’s a small article about us on wikipedia under “Womens Peace Walk” but we were hoping for a page alone more specific to just us and one for our international Coordinator, Christine Ahn. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_walk#Women_Cross_DMZ

I was wondering if anyone at Wikipedia would be able to write up/make a more thorough/non-bias page about Women Cross DMZ and a page about our international coordinator, arguably the #1 Peace activist on the topic of Korea, Christine Ahn. Christine has worked with Bernie Sanders, writes for the New York Times, the Nation, and is a regular on Democracy Now. We just had our annual fundraiser with our advocate Gloria Steinem, Abigail Disney, Anne Delaney, Leymah Gbowee, Maireed McGuire, and more.

Sincerely, Jacquelyn wells Communications Coordinator Www.womencrossdmz.org

draft article, boxed for ease of reading

CHRISTINE AHN Bio International Coordinator, Women Cross DMZ • United States Christine Ahn is the founder and International Coordinator of Women Cross DMZ, a global movement of women mobilizing to end the Korean War, reunite families, and ensure women’s leadership in peace building. In 2015, Women Cross DMZ organized women's peace symposiums in Pyongyang and Seoul, a women's peace walk with 10,000 Korean women on both sides of the De-Militarized Zone (DMZ), and a historic crossing of the DMZ from North to South Korea with 30 women peacemakers from fifteen countries. She is co-founder of the Korea Peace Network, Korea Policy Institute, Global Campaign to Save Jeju Island and National Campaign to End the Korean War. She has addressed the United Nations, U.S. Congress, and the Republic of Korea’s National Human Rights Commission. Christine has been a policy analyst at the Global Fund for Women, Oakland Institute, Institute for Food & Development Policy, and Nautilus Institute. A columnist with Foreign Policy In Focus, her writings have been widely published in The New York Times, San Francisco Chronicle, CNN, Fortune, The Hill and The Nation. She has appeared on Al Jazeera, Anderson Cooper 360, BBC, CBC, CNN, Democracy Now!, NBC Today Show, NPR, the Samantha Bee Show, and Voice of America.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Oohjacquelina (talk • contribs) 14:28, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• @Oohjacquelina: First of all, the unpleasant stuff: please read our requirements for paid editing and make the mandatory disclaimer on your user page (at User:Oohjacquelina).

Not all topics are deemed to merit an article on Wikipedia; article subjects must be "notable", i.e. have been written about at length by independent reliable sources. Beware in particular that notability is not inherited, so even if the peace walk in May gets a lot of coverage, it does not necessarily imply that the organisation or people behind it will be considered notable.

With that in mind, the place to request articles to be written is Wikipedia:Requested articles, but they hardly ever get written. You could write one via the Article Wizard; do not worry too much about getting the Wiki-formatting right (a reviewer will be able to check that later), but make sure to show the subject's notability by references.

Finally, please give a quick look at how to sign your posts on talk pages. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:57, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• The section Peace walk#Women Cross DMZ is very incomplete. It should be expanded. Expanding existing articles is much easier than creating new ones. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:10, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Page

Hi.

I've been working on a Wikipedia page and I need a pro to take a look at it to see if I'm on the right track. It's not done - a draft only. Can someone take a look and let me know how it's going? This is my first go at a Wiki page so don't tear me to shreds! :)

It's a bio page on Judith Weinshall Liberman

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Judith_Weinshall_Liberman&action=submit

Thanks! GeorgeGeorge David NH (talk) 18:49, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

This is about Judith Weinshall Liberman. As it stands, it cites no sources, and therefore fails to establish that its subject is notable, a serious omission. Its text also includes some direct external links, which should be removed. Maproom (talk) 19:34, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Now moved to Draft:Judith Weinshall Liberman. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 05:07, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

I've reformatted external links in the body of the article as citations with references at the bottom.  クロノ  カム  18:19, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello everyone

I'm a big fan of Wikipedia and it's the only place I like visiting when looking for something on the internet especially movie reviews and other important stuff. Today I took the big leap of joining the big family and my first article has been rejected and I understand. How do I piece together my page so that it's Wiki-worthy?

Thank you  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nhlanhla Makiwa (talk • contribs) 16:39, 16 April 2018 (UTC) 

You need to read the helpful links which have been provided on your user talk page, including to WP:Your first article and WP:Autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Wiki

HOW DO I WIKI?!?!?! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagicHero1 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@MagicHero1: Check out WP:HOW. It will give you a good start, including links to tutorials and the Wikipedia Adventure learning exercise. If you have more specific questions after reading that, come on back here. RudolfRed (talk) 18:52, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

¿How do I do to introduce new stuff?

Hi! Thks for having me in the forum. What to do if one just invented a new subject in ciencies and cannot refer it to any previous other source, because the matter is so new, no one has wrote about it never before, and thus all others who have wrote articles using the same words are not referencingable to this particular matter despite all can be also notable matters too. I have not been published yet, but I would like to share my humble writings with every human being as soon as possible and despite I do care about me being recognized for this work, I hope this is not an obstacle for publishing it in Wikipedia, for I will be honored with the first edition of my invention in its pages. Is this doable? Thanks a lot again. Best Regards Carlos Blaumann — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rapneto (talk • contribs) 19:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey Rapneto. If something is very new and hasn't yet been covered in published in reliable secondary sources, then we really just have to wait, because those are the types of sources we have to use in order to build our articles with, and to determine that a subject meets our standards for notability and is appropriate for an article at all. So I'm afraid you will have to get people outside of Wikipedia to write about it before we can write about it ourselves, because we need their writing in order to do ours. GMG^talk 19:29, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@Rapneto: Sorry that is not allowed. The encyclopedia is not the place for original research. See WP:OR RudolfRed (talk) 19:31, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Further advice at WP:NEO. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:33, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Having a "strong voice" as opposed to a "passive voice" with writing

♥ How can I create a strong article without a passive voice?Sunday 17:27, 16 April 2018 (UTC) Sunday — Preceding unsigned comment added by SundaysChild (talk • contribs)

Hello, SundaysChild, welcome to our Teahouse. Gosh, what a question. It's not one I've seen asked here before, and it reminded me of my days at school when my Latin teacher used to demand we gave examples of speaking in the active and the passive voice. (Nightmare!) Slightly avoiding your actual question, I'd say that what's most important is to recognise that our task here is to build an encyclopaedia, in which every page is worthy of being placed on the fifth most visited website in the world. The tone we use must be a neutral one. That's what is key. We cannot be opinionated, and we cannot be biased, whether by selective inclusion or by omission. However, we can (and should) present the differing opinions of others, providing they are regarded to be mainstream views (not fringe theorists), and are represented correctly and referenced to reliable sources that are independent of the subject in question. I'm not quite sure what you mean by a 'strong article' but I think we have editors here who write good quality articles in both the active and the passive voice. (Person A killed Person B; Person B was killed by Person A.) The one thing I personally hate to see here is when pages use the future tense in an historical context (most often in waffle-filled team sports-related articles). I forget the correct term (future progressive?) but I see this style more appropriate to creative writing and magazine journalism than encyclopaedia production. eg. "Jimmy Wales would go on to meet Larry Sanger and by March 2001 would establish Wikipedia. This act would see the site going forward to become the fifth most visited website in the world and would see 33 million users registered by 2018." If you can avoid that style of writing, I'm sure you'll be fine. (Sorry if I didn't quite address your question. This would come to be blamed upon the Teahouse host not quite being up to modern educational parlance.) Good luck with your studies, and regards from an ill-educated corner of England, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:42, 16 April 2018 (UTC)  

Hi, SundaysChild. To expand upon what Nick Moyes said above, I took a look at the manual of style which provides editors with some direction on how to write Wikipedia articles. It does briefly mention passive voice, specifically that it is OK, and sometimes even preferable, to use passive voice. My advice to you is to be bold when contributing to articles. Don't put too much thought into whether or not your writing is "strong" enough. Another editor can easily come along and fix up your contributions if they are not up to their standards.

Of course, I assume you are looking for advice for writing Wikipedia articles. If you're looking for help with homework, I'd suggest looking for advice from a teacher or tutor. :) -- kewlgrapes (talk, contribs) 21:55, 16 April 2018 (UTC)