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What actually is the notable source meant to be?

I've tried really hard to understand what is meant by a notable source but just don't get it. Does it have to be a footnote, a link to a website or do I have to write something like "Sourced from [insert website here]" Also, does it have to be a source from a big company like a newspaper or can it just be anything not by me? Please help as I'm very confused and Thank you so much in advance :)

‘’’Edit:’’’ Thank you for explaining so clearly and politely! And yes I was confusing notability and reliability so that’s cleared it up. Again, Thnakyou!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by APerson2019 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, APerson2019. I think you are confusing two things. A source does not have to be notable - it has to be reliable (see the link for more information). Reliable sources are how you establish that a topic is notable. If I've not answered your question, please come back and ask further. --ColinFine (talk) 19:45, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

[Edit Conflict] You are conflating two different, though linked, concepts whose names have meanings specific to Wikipedia in addition to their more common meanings, so you have every excuse for being confused :).

The first concept is Wikipedia:Notability, which on Wikipedia means "sufficient material about this subject has been published in Reliable sources [see below] independent of the subject to allow an article based entirely on that material to be written about him/her/it" (Please read the linked policy, which gives much more detail.)

The second concept is Wikipedia:Reliable Source, which means (briefly) a source that has been published (so anyone can in theory refer to it, however difficult that might be), does not contain user or reader-generated material (which may be unreliable due to genuine misconceptions or deliberate falsehoods – so Wikipedia itself is not a Reliable source), and has been checked and edited by people competent to do so – the linked policy document goes into far more details. Note that even if published in a Reliable source, like the New York Times, material based on interviews with subjects, or publicity material released by or for them, is not independent of them and is not therefore considered Reliable.

These are linked because the notability of any subject has to be demonstrated by citations to extended material (not just passing mentions or listings) in several different Reliable sources. That last link will explain to you how we create footnoted citations in an article.

Note that sources which only briefly mention an article's subject, and sources not independent of him/her/it, can sometimes be used to confirm trivial facts like full name, date of Company's founding, etc., but cannot support notability.

Note also that sources do not have to be linkable online, though if they are it's easier for readers to check them. Even if only one copy of a published book still exists, say in the British Library, and someone would have to take a plane trip from another continent to consult it, that counts as published and the relevant citation template can be used to give all the necessary details of Publisher, Date, Author, Title, page number etc.

Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.122.2.132 (talk) 19:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Also, if your concerns include the correct format (footnote, a link to a website or "Sourced from [insert website here]), I recommend that you take a look at the existing reference list of the article you are editing. It is best to follow it for consistency. To give you an idea, you can check the References section of this page and the Notes section of this page. Darwin Naz (talk) 23:25, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Piping

If I want to post the link as another word but wanna use brackets ([]), how do I do that? RandomManScreamingChandelier (talk) 01:32, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@RandomManScreamingChandelier: Thanks for asking! First, though, I must ask you to sign all of your comments on non-articles (such as this) with four tildes (these things --> ~). On to the question, though! It's really quite simple. Use two left brackets and the name of the linked article, then type a pipe --> | <-- like so (on an American keyboard it's up above "enter"), whatever you want the link to show up as, then two right brackets. An example would be this: Olivia Newton-John. Now, I don't recommend using it that way (for misleading links), but there certainly are legitimate purposes. Thanks for asking and happy editing! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:59, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much! RandomManScreamingChandelier (talk) 01:32, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Need help on improving

Hi Team,

Hope you are well. I needed some help on improving my page and some tips to overcome the challenge we are facing.

Much appreciated.

Kind regards, brightLET — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brightlet (talk • contribs) 01:10, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Your draft "BrightLET" has been deleted as advertising/promotional. Also, your account is blocked until you change your User name from Brightlet to something else. Apologizing is not enough. See User talk:Brightlet for explanation. David notMD (talk) 02:26, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Relation of Kumar Sanu with Nepali Music

Dear Wikipedians, I went through the article about Kumar Sanu: an indian singer Kumar Sanu . It nowhere mentions about his contributions in Nepali music. But he has sung many famous evergreen songs in Nepali Language. Please help in adding more about kumar sanu;s journey in Nepali music. Kumar Sanu Nepali Songs Kumar Sanus Nepali Song — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sashil Chalise (talk • contribs) 20:40, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Sashil Chalise. Your request will be seen by a greater number of interested editors if it appears on the Talk page of Kumar Sanu, to which I have copied your request. Please note that the article Kumar Sanu discography and filmography also exists, in case you see a need to edit there.--Quisqualis (talk) 04:06, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Reviewing articles

Hi Everyone, I wonder why it takes more than 2 months to review articles? Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yafimpico (talk • contribs) 23:24, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Because there's a shortage of reviewers. And no wonder. Reviewing articles is an unpleasant and thankless task. (I had a look at Draft:Daniel Kapler, which has been submitted for the third time. The first reference is to IMDB, which is not a reliable source; the second is in Hebrew, a language few reviewers can read; the third and fourth do not mention the subject. A conscientious reviewer will have to work through all 20 references, looking for evidence that the subject is notable.) I don't regret my decision not to become a reviewer. Maproom (talk) 06:57, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

What's a "deleted edit"?

I requested a username usurpation, and the bot added this information: "Requesting user has 247 undeleted edits and 65 deleted edits, for a total of 312 edits."

What's a deleted edit? I've never heard of one before. Merlin04atschool (talk) 00:17, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@Merlin04atschool: Deleted edits are typically edits to articles that have been deleted; for instance, if you edited article XYZ to add a reference, but a month later it was deleted as, say, non-notable (unknown to you when you edited it), then that adding a reference would be counted as a deleted edit. There is also revision-deletion, in which the article was not removed entirely but a portion of it was. Copyright violation is one of the more common reasons for that (if a copyright violation is detected, every revision that contained the violation must be deleted, even if there are many intermediate edits that had nothing to do with it) but other reasons include doxxing and real nasty comments about people. Thanks for asking, and happy editing! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 00:50, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

It's odd. AnomieBOT did say "Requesting user has 247 undeleted edits and 65 deleted edits, for a total of 312 edits."[1] Special:Contributions/Merlin04atschool shows 312 edits at the time, none of them currently deleted. It could happen if pages you had edited were deleted at the time and undeleted now but I have found no such pages. As an administrator I can currently see no deleted edits by you. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Merlin04atschool. you could try Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:08, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Creating locator maps.

Recently I began to create articles on former villages in the Galanchozh District of Chechnya. So far I wrote / re-wrote 3 articles (Galanchozh, Yalkhoroy and Khaibakh), but I want to know how to create a locator map for the villages. I think that it will help a lot with the pages.

Thanks

- Sail 95 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sail 95 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Sail 95. I'm not an expert at adding maps to articles, but it seems to me that the template you're looking for is Template:Location map. These "pushpin" maps can also be integrated into infoboxes, as described at Template:Infobox settlement#Maps, coordinates. If you need any help understanding those guidelines, do ask here. Cordless Larry (talk) 09:16, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for these links Larry, I looked and I saw one of these in the past trying to make a locator map for one of the articles but, the problem is that I can't figure how to add them. I also can't figure how to add an infobox which would probably help a lot more.

Thanks

- Sail 95

Picture Violation

Hi, I have added few pictures in my sandbox page yesterday, it got deleted today due to violation but i don't know what is the problem since some of the pictures are still there,why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by World Youth Forum (talk • contribs)

@World Youth Forum: The page User:World Youth Forum/sandbox was deleted after your post here and I see you are now blocked. Some of your uploads to Wikimedia Commons were deleted as apparent copyright violations. The red file links at commons:Special:Log/upload/World Youth Forum means deletion. commons:User talk:World Youth Forum gives reasons. Commons is a different wiki and I cannot see deleted pages there. You can seek help there. I see you already posted to commons:Commons:Help desk#Deletion of photos i have added. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:54, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Gonzales or Gonzalez???

Main article: Wally Gonzales

I have been trying to figure out if it is Wally Gonzales or Wally Gonzalez, some news sources call him Gonzalez but very few call him Wally Gonzales. And if it is actually Wally Gonzalez can someone teach me how to change it thank you. --FromFrank✎Talk♬ 23:40, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello FromFrank, and welcome to the Teahouse. Interesting. There seems to be at least two musicians with a variation of the name, "your's" and this guy, so don't confuse the two. This [2] seems to be him, but this album [3] uses the other spelling, maybe it has changed over time. I say be WP:BOLD, go with your best judgement. If someone disagrees you can discuss it then.

Normally you should be able to WP:MOVE it without problem, but in this case there's a redirect in the way, so I think it would need an admin, is that correct PrimeHunter? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:04, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Non-admins can move it in this case per Wikipedia:Moving a page#Moving over a redirect. Both names are common but the official sources I found say Gonzalez, e.g. [4][5]. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:36, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, and for whatever reason I misread the album I linked, Gonzalez it is. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:05, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Urgent -- please remove offensive content

Doris Day passed away today. Someone placed an offensive and obscene photo at the top of her Wikipedia page. Can someone PLEASE remove this, and perhaps prevent the person who made that addition from editing any more Wikipedia pages. Thank you!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.32.83 (talk)

It appears the vandalism is being addressed, thank you for the information. Unfortunately this can happen, especially with high profile pages or subjects that are in the news. For future reference, vandalism can be reported to Administrator intervention against vandalism. 331dot (talk) 13:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.32.83 (talk) 13:51, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Why was I blocked too many times?

Why was I blocked too many times before I first logged in? Sportsfanrob (talk) 14:08, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@Sportsfanrob: I can't be sure, as I am not a CheckUser (and even if I was, I would not be permitted to look in this case), but it sounds like you were subject to IP blocks. This does not indicate any wrongdoing on your part- the thing is, oftentimes IP addresses are shared by multiple people, and if one particular address is causing a lot of issues, sometimes an administrator will block the IP, risking collateral damage as the price of getting rid of the issues. Unfortunately, I think you were caught up in that collateral. Thanks for asking! -A lad insane (Channel 2) 14:25, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Approval timeframe....4 months? Am I doing something wrong?

I added a page in January, submitted it for review and it shows four months later in a draft state. Did I miss a step? Can anyone advise? Thanks in advance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:David_Gadis — Preceding unsigned comment added by DCWOMAC (talk • contribs)

Hello DCWOMAC and welcome to the Teahouse. The problem was that you didn't submitted the draft for review by placing {{subst:submit}}. Anyway I have submitted the article for review. This may take more than two months since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 12:32, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

While you are waiting for the review, DCWOMAC, I would suggest that you work on the draft to ensure that every sentence is supported by a citation to a reliable source and that any opinions (e.g. "earned him a reputation among city and municipal leadership as an innovative leader and a trusted partner who truly understands their challenges and desired goals") that aren't attributed clearly to a source are removed. Cordless Larry (talk) 12:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@DCWOMAC: Please also note that trusted partner who truly understands their challenges and desired goals is unacceptable to state in Wikipedia's voice (no matter how well-sourced), as it paints the subject in a flattering light without providing any objective information. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 14:38, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

It seems that the draft was a copyright violation of this, and it has therefore been deleted. Cordless Larry (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Change username

Hello

I was wanting to know how to change my username, I am currently using my first letter and last name, what would be a better one to make it?

Jbegle (talk) 20:56, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Jbegle and welcome to the Teahouse. You can request a username change by following the instructions at Wikipedia:Changing username, or you could take note of the advice there for users with very few edits, and simply abandon your current account, never ever use it again, and simply create a brand new one. Either way, the choice of username is up to you - albeit with a few limitations described at Wikipedia:Username_policy#Inappropriate_usernames. Looking at your userboxes and past edits, you could choose something like User:IndianaJones or User:IndianaJosei - it really is totally up to you. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:06, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

That sounds like a good username I think I will use the IndianaJones one it sounds awesome, and thanks for your help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbegle (talk • contribs) 23:12, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

IndianaJones sounds too good to not be taken. We have a unified login system with other Wikimedia wikis so you have to use Special:CentralAuth to see whether a username is taken. Special:CentralAuth/IndianaJones shows it is. ru:Special:Contributions/IndianaJones shows three edits in 2006. Jbegle chose User:Indianajosi instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:58, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Probably eligible for usurpation at meta:Steward_requests/Username_changes#Requests_involving_merges,_usurps_or_other_complications, though, if there are any takers... Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 15:38, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Need Help on creating an article.

How do i create a page for a wildlife photographer and being accepted to publish.I have created the user name in his name.Please let me know,the info i added are 100 percent genuine.This guy works with Foundations too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EarthEjazkhan (talk • contribs) 16:29, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Dear EarthEjazkhan, Please read the reasons why Draft:Ejaz Khan was declined. You are going to need to establish the notability of this person through reliable sources that are independent of the subject. For information about how to add sources to the article, please read Help:Referencing for beginners and Wikipedia:Citing sources. Regards, Zingarese talk · contribs 17:01, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikpedia article Sahjanwa railway station moved to draft by cassopedia...

hello i want to ask that why and who have moved my article to draft about Indian Railways i want to inform cassopedia that please move it back to www.wikipedia.com and i will tried to include some required citations and sources about that but please move it back to wikipedia article because there was the article has been open to all so any one who have some liable sources are able to add them so i requesting you to please move it again to wikipedia article because nothing of the information given in that article are not wrong and all information of that article was totally correct and genuine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ner railway zone gorakhpur (talk • contribs)

Hello Ner railway zone gorakhpur and welcome to the TeaHouse. The page you created has been moved to draft space so you can work on it there until it is ready for mainspace. Wikipedia articles need to include citations to sources and these sources must be trusted as being accurate. These sources are needed so we can easily verify an article is accurate. You can also talk to a user directly by going to their user talk at [[User talk:Example]]. Thanks, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 17:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Trying to de-orphan iVideosongs by creating a link with Erik Mongrain

Hello!

I like solving Orphan articles issue but i failed to de-orphan iVideosongs article. While i'm trying to add link for in this page "Erik Mongrain" i receive message that page doesn't exist. Please can you help?

Thanks. Rhea Nawar (talk) 02:19, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Rhea Nawar. I don't see any record of you making any edits to Erik Mongrain; so, it's hard to tell what the problem is. Anyway, it looks like the problem has to do with the capitalization of the "s" in iVideosongs. The title of the article doesn't capitalize the "s", but the mention in the Mongrain article does; in other words, iVideosongs exists, but iVideoSongs doesn't. There are a few ways to fix this: (1) change the text in the Mongrain article; (2) WP:PIPE the link you add to the Morgain article; (3) create a WP:REDIRECT from "iVideoSongs" to "iVideosongs"; or (4) WP:MOVE "iVideosongs" to "iVideoSongs". The first option is the simplest, but being simple might not mean being the best. The last option is the hardest since it involves WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NCCAPS depending upon how the company actually spells its name and how reliable sources refer to the company. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:36, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@Rhea Nawar: All official sources I have found and the large majority of other sources say iVideosongs so I have linked that.[6] The article's source also said iVideosongs when it existed.[7] PrimeHunter (talk) 12:46, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi @Marchjuly: and @PrimeHunter:. The problem was the capitalization of the "s". Just realize that case sensitive. Thanks for your support. Rhea Nawar (talk) 18:33, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Can I highlight text on a talk page?

I know how to make something bold, italic, bold italic, or larger, but is there any way to highlight text with a background color like green or yellow? This would be for text on a talk page only. ThomasJamesGodfrey (talk) 01:49, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

ThomasJamesGodfrey, I think you want {{Background color}} or {{Highlight}} (they're slightly different, read the docs for details). Eman235/talk 02:54, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@Eman235: Thanks. I went with this method for highlighting. Worked like a charm. ThomasJamesGodfrey (talk) 19:12, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

New

Hi everyone, what are some articles that I can edit or create to get started? I'm new here, and I want to help. Piedypied (talk) 14:39, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

for experimenting go to your sandboxThe 2nd Red Guy (talk) 20:29, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Start with topics you know a lot about. On your Talk page, an automated program ('bot) made suggestions, but you are not limited to those. David notMD (talk) 15:03, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

How to have a popup image?

I uploaded a picture to Wikimedia Commons because it will help me to demonstrate a point in a text that I have posted in one of the articles.

I do not wish the image to appear as a thumb on the page. However, I would like that if I hover over a specific word in the text, the image will come up, much like compass.Yaronhad (talk) 15:20, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Yaronhad, is the feature you're referring to Page previews? Eman235/talk 19:16, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Eman235, the effect that I would like to achieve is the same as Page previews, but the image that I uploaded to Wikimedia Commons is in a file form. Is there a way to bring it up just by pointing at my text?Yaronhad (talk) 20:08, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Yaronhad: AFAIK page previews display the first image of a wikilinked article, and that's it. What word would you link? (If it can be wikilinked, I fail to see why you would want to show anything else than what the page preview gives anyway). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:36, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tigraan, What if the image that you wish to preview is not on a page but a file in Wikimedia Commons? From my search, this option is not available but it would be nice to have. Anyway, I linked it to the text as a workaround.Yaronhad (talk) 17:50, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Update: I added a link to the image.Yaronhad (talk) 16:19, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Disneyprince: Is this so we can ask and talk with other publishers— Preceding unsigned comment added by Disneyprince (talk • contribs) 22:28, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I want to talk with others and develop articles

Hi everyone, it's nice to be on this site. I'm new to wikipedia and I'm wondering how I can get started on editing articles and communicate with others. Thanks! Piedypied (talk) 20:01, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi, Piedypied! The best way to get started is to search for topics you're interested in and give them a read to see if you might be able to improve them. Improving them can involve copyediting for grammar, typos, etc., improving sourcing, or expanding the content. What kinds of topic are you most interested in? --valereee (talk) 20:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi everyone! Also like piedypied, I am new to this site and would like to know if I could publish my own article instead of just editing others. [Disneyprince]— Preceding unsigned comment added by Disneyprince (talk • contribs) 22:30, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Disneyprince I would very strongly suggest editing current articles first as a way to learn how to contribute. Once you've figured out the basics, then you can create an article from scratch. It's a complicated process. --valereee (talk)

Articles

On the Special:Statistics page it says there are 5.8 million "content pages" on the English Wikipedia, which also claims to have 5.8 million articles, so my question is are "Content pages" and "Articles" the same exact thing?

97.90.47.253 (talk) 21:56, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

It varies how the terms are used but in the count of 5.8 million, the terms are used about the same: All mainspace pages excluding redirects. The name "Content pages" at Special:Statistics is determined by MediaWiki:Statistics-articles with an explanation at translatewiki:MediaWiki:Statistics-articles/qqq. Note it's different at some wikis. In normal jargon at the English Wikipedia, the around 300,000 article disambiguation pages are not included in "articles". PrimeHunter (talk) 22:30, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Publishing your own article

Hi everyone! I am new to this and I would like to know if I can add my own articles to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&action=edit&section=new and also how the site works thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disneyprince (talk • contribs) 22:33, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Disneyprince, don't post articles here; put them in your sandbox or in the draft namespace. I have left a welcome message on your talk page with links to more information. Eman235/talk 22:52, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

removal of content question

hi there i have a question about adding an external link to a wikipedia entry. i have been trying to add simonmartinartist.blogspot to the Simon Martin artist page. this has been taken down twice. it is the legitimate site of the artist. why is being taken down? how do i get it to stay on the page? any help would be gratefully received. https://simonmartinartist.blogspot.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Martin_(artist) — Preceding unsigned comment added by TX8SM (talk • contribs) 17:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@TX8SM: If other editors disagree with your inclusion of the link, I suggest discussing it at Talk:Simon Martin (artist) --DannyS712 (talk) 00:09, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Copying charts and graphs on Wikipedia draft page

Dear Wikipedians, We are creating on the public budget of a country and we need to copy original charts and graphs from the government's official version of the budget. How can we do this as the draft page is not able to display charts and graphs? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MMMS2019 (talk • contribs)

Please visit the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard to add charts and graphs --DannyS712 (talk) 00:13, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Query on Maintenance Template

Hi This is in reference to this maintenance template message that I have come across on the Purkazi page.

"This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. Find sources: "Purkazi" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR (May 2019)"

Kindly elaborate on how can I improve the content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikicon07 (talk • contribs) 05:36, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

For interested readers, this is for Purkazi. There's a lot of info there that is unsourced - simply find reliable sources that discuss the unsourced items, or which can be used to add additional significant information, and add them to the article. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 05:49, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

alma mater

I was recently editing Jim Chapman's infobox, but can't seem to place the alma mater correctly. Can anyone help fix this? Thank you! – DarkGlow (talk) 14:47, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@DarkGlow: it looks fine to me - where did you want it to be? Its currently at the bottom of the infobox. --DannyS712 (talk) 00:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: I thought that alma maters were supposed to go in the personal info section? I was taken aback when it suddenly moved to the bottom, as it looks quite odd. – DarkGlow (talk) 07:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@DarkGlow: Oh - in that case, I have moved it there --DannyS712 (talk) 07:42, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712: I seem to be having the same issue with this article; except in this case spouse, parter and children are at the bottom. If it isn’t too much trouble, do you know how to fix this? – DarkGlow (talk) 07:55, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@DarkGlow:  Done --DannyS712 (talk) 07:57, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Follow-up to Coordinate_footnotes

I saw in some village pages fallingrain.com for coordinates. Is it a reliable source for coordinates?--Vin09 (talk) 02:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Vin09: I'm going to say no, because while the site is extensive, there's no indication (that I could easily find) of who puts the numbers there, and what their source is. There are also some pretty basic English language typos on the home page that make me question the site's attention to detail. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 05:58, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

So, which one to use as a reliable source?--Vin09 (talk) 06:03, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Vin09: Providing when you click the coordinates and are taken to the page which allows you to select Google maps - and providing the village correctly displays there, you probably don't need to worry about a coordinate footnote. If you use Google maps to extract a coordinate to the centre of a village, you could, of course, cite Google maps as the source. I think a source is really needed for coordinates for smaller features which can't be proven by a quick click to an online map. Thus a small summit peak's which doesn't show up in online mapping might need to be cited to a local walking guide or paper map. I suspect one of our experienced editors, Maproom, might be able to add to this. Nick Moyes (talk) 09:48, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Nick Moyes: Thanks for the info.--Vin09 (talk) 10:01, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

A question about a Living Person Biography

I've been working on an article and discovered the artist has used more than one name during their career. The article has an artist information template but does not have line for that. I also am not certain which name may be the birth name and which might be a name taken through marriage. I am not sure if it is important to note as most of the references that I have found are for the one name, only one reference is for the other name. Thank you!LorriBrown (talk) 02:21, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

LorriBrown, if it is a WP:BLP subject and you have information but no reliable sources, you cannot use it. Every fact about a living person must have a solid reliable source. John from Idegon (talk) 02:30, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

John from Idegon Thank you for your reply. I think my question was to vague... Here is some more specific information regarding my question. The article is draft: Linda Craddock. The reference is #6. I got the information from the artist website on their CV page. Plus when I read about the person's background it matches hers so make sense to me that she had a different name at point in time. So do I list the other name as I have in the artist info box or is it necessary? As you can see the article for the gallerieswest is for the name of Linda Brock. Thank youLorriBrown (talk) 02:48, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

LorriBrown, this is one of the issues we have with sourcing women: their names change, which makes research difficult. It means we often have to research very carefully. A name change isn't necessarily a contentious assertion, but it does need to be researched. You believe Linda Brock and Linda Craddock are the same artist? I'm trying to follow, what exact specific info is pointing us to that conclusion? Apologies that it probably seems clear to you that you've shown that, I've had a glass of wine or two. --valereee (talk) 03:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Valereee and John from Idegon Okay, fair enough. I believe these are the same person because, the artist Linda Craddock's CV notes under Biography - Journals, Magazines, Books - 2003 – “Artists Portraits” Galleries West. Vol. 2 No. 2 Summer. When I looked for the article in gallerieswest online magazine I didn't find an article for Linda Craddock with that description but did find one for for Linda Brock. The #6 reference which I have listed for draft: Linda Craddock is the same article. In the body of the article the writer Shannon Heth describes Linda Brock to be a painter, born in Vegreville, Alberta living at the time on Pender Island having graduated from Alberta College of Art & Design and receiving an MFA from the University of Calgary. If you look at #5 reference and click the 'read more' you can read that Craddock was born in Vegreville, Alberta graduated from the Alberta College of Art and received her BFA and MFA from the University of Calgary. She left Calgary moved to Vancouver Island then moved to a small gulf island (Pender Island is a Gulf Island) for several years before returning to Calgary. I know it may seem more obvious to me because I have gotten somewhat familiar with this person but doesn't that seem reasonable for me to believe that? If not I think I may need some of your wine. :- ) If so, then how am I suppose to address that in her article? Thank you! LorriBrown (talk) 05:39, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

LorriBrown, in my opinion, you have carried out sufficient due diligence to say in a Wikipedia article that these two names refer to the same person. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:40, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

I agree, it seems pretty clear it's the same person. If it turns out against all odds there are two women named Linda with those exact details, it'll be discovered. ETA: Oh, sorry, your original question. I'd use as the title the name under which she is currently/most recently working, but when discussing the portions of her career where she was working under another name, I'd just say something like, "Craddock, then working under the name Linda Brock..."--valereee (talk) 10:40, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

First article deleted - what to do?

I wanted to contribute some content on the open access movement, I wrote my first article and used an already published article as a template, did my best to follow the guidelines and I got a message indicating it would be deleted because it was "unambiguous advertising".

What am I doing wrong? Or rather what can I do get my contributions accepted? TIARIContent (talk) 11:09, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@RIContent: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I would first note that your username seems to be a violation of the username policy, as a source you offered mentions the "Research Institute". Your username must indicate that a specific individual is operating your account(your real name is not required, just something individualistic). A name formatted as "JohnPublic of RI" would be acceptable; please immediately go to Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS to make a username change request.

Regarding your draft, it was deleted because it did little more than tell about the platform you were writing about. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources state about article subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. In addition, the sources you offered seem associated with the platform, meaning they are not independent. Wikipedia has no interest in what an article subject wants to say about itself, that can be done on their own website. We are only interested in what others unrelated to the subject say.

Lastly, if you are associated with the platform or those making it, you must read and comply with the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy(the latter if you are employed by the makers of the platform or otherwise paid to edit). 331dot (talk) 11:17, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Not angry, just a curiosity

Hi! Nice to meet you!, I want to express my curiosity on why on the article Gaza–Israel clashes (May 2019), on the International response section are only included the U.S. and EU. Don't the other countries matter too? Just a curiosity. Thanks! --LLcentury (talk) 16:48, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm guessing: It could be connected to WP:PROPORTION and WP:NOTNEWS. If you include reactions from many many countries, half the article will be about that, and it shouldn't. As time passes, more and better sources will be available and the article will change shape (probably). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:22, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

True, but just EU+US reactions does seem a bit Western-centric. (For instance, the Arab League is probably a significant player.) The article is currently under extended-confirmed protection; if [[User:|you]] cannot edit yourself, you can still suggest edits on the talk page with the {{requested edit}} template. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 11:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Redirects

I am trying to make a redirect from Jelle Bakker to Marblelympics. Any idea how? Thanks, The 2nd Red Guy (talk) 13:16, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

• MarbleLympics (I can never remember to capitalize the 'L') The 2nd Red Guy (talk) 13:19, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Marblelympics and welcome to the Teahouse. To create a redirect to this page, simply type #REDIRECT [[Marblelympics]] at Jelle Bakker. Thanks, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 13:30, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Notifying The 2nd Red Guy. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 13:31, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Plötzensee Prison

I was reading up on Wikipedia's information on Plötzensee Prison (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pl%C3%B6tzensee_Prison) and upon looking up the names of the victims, Gerd Meyer is referred to as a German light rower and won a gold medal at the 1987 World Rowing Championship in Copenhagen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerd_Meyer). The Plötzensee Prison is known for the execution of political prisoners during World War II, and I have a strong suspicion that it isn't the same Gerd Meyer.

Please let me know if you need additional information.

Thank you,

- Mark Eugene

Thanks for catching that. I have removed the link. It is obviously not the same person; the Meyer mentioned in the source here would have been executed before the Rower was even born. --Jayron32 14:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

He has a German article de:Gerhard Meyer (Widerstandskämpfer). I have used {{ill}} to link him and 16 other of these brave people to their German articles.[8] PrimeHunter (talk) 15:12, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

History tab when not on the app

If I'm signed into my Wikipedia account on a device that doesn't have the Wikipedia app, when I go back on Wikipedia via the app, will the history of what articles I looked at while using the desktop version still show up on the History page of the app, despite the webpage version not having a reading history section? Also I've never used the Teahouse before so if this question has been answered before I'm sorry, I didn't know how to access the answer without pages and pages of scrolling, I'm not trying to be annoying. Thank you for your time. Feralcateater000 (talk) 12:45, 14 May 2019 (UTC)feralcateater000

Hello, Feralcateater000 I'm not certain, but I'd be surprised if it did. The Wikipedia App keeps track of pages visited because it is written to do so. The browser by which you're accessing the desktop version will probably keep track of which web pages (not just Wikipedia pages) you've visited; but the Wikipedia website will not have access to that information. It is possible that the website records it in cookies, but I'd be surprised if it did. If you want to pursue this question further, I'd suggest WP:VPT as a place to ask: maybe somebody there will know whether I'm right or not! --ColinFine (talk) 16:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

On editing existing articles

I would like to edit an article but I am not sure how my edit(s) will be perceived. It has to do with the etymology of a word. There are several speculations but nothing is conclusive. Currently there is only one definition present in this wiktionary page and it does not include that we don't really know the etymology of the word. Should I start a conversation on the talk page before editing the main entry? Should I make the changes and then explain my reasoning on the talk page? Also currently on this wiktionary page there are no sources displayed. Should I ask for the reliable sources of the existing? Should I have reliable sources before doing anything else? What would you suggest?— Preceding unsigned comment added by PhantomPower48 (talk • contribs)

Hello PhantomPower48 and welcome to the TeaHouse. It would be better to ask this at Wiktionary:Information desk, as Wiktionary is a seperate project to Wikipedia. Thanks, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 13:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Of course, thank you! --PhantomPower48 (talk) 14:06, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

... or Wiktionary:Tea room or Wiktionary:Etymology scriptorium for more technical questions. Dbfirs 17:04, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Error on revision history

Sometimes when I go back to the very last revision diffs on pages like Pedophilia and September 11th attacks (for example,https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?date-range-to=2001-09-13&tagfilter=&title=Pedophilia&action=history), it mistakenly shows the very first edit (aka the page creation) as eliminating bytes when creating a page actually creates bytes. Could it be because these pages deal with controversial topics as opposed to others? Sitbackplease (talk) 16:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sitbackplease, welcome to the Teahouse. Edits from 2001 are from before our current MediaWiki software started in 2002. Old edits are sometimes imported into the current MediaWiki database with some inconsistencies. The first shown edit in the Pedophilia page history may not actually have been the creation since many early Wikipedia edits are lost. The edit was imported in 2010 [9] and the shown "-48,353" is the difference to the article size at the time of the import. See also Wikipedia:Wikipedia's oldest articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:15, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Is Twinkle safe to use?

I have just got Autoconfirmed rights, and I read about TW (Twinkle) which is useful to edit faster, so what you think I should use it or should try Manual editing, For now, I'm learning Wiki markup to mention, create a custom sign, colors to table, and also reading about policy's about deleting and maintaining templates, also Notability about biographies Organisations and list related articles. what you think I should more focus on to learn more about Wikipedia editing? --WikiLover97 (talk) 17:49, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Twinkle is a great tool, though it's really meant for maintenance and other things. It doesn't do much to aid normal editing. It is a wonderful anti-vandalism tool though. It also makes tagging articles and deletion noms easier. I like it. Jeb³_{Talk at me here} 17:51, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

where do I get to see Recently created articles?

I want to contribute to Indian Films/Television related articles (Biographies preferred) Where do I get edit recently created articles on that particular topic basically "Indian Articles"? --WikiLover97 (talk) 17:59, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

User:AlexNewArtBot/IndiaSearchResult contains list of newly-created articles that are related to India in one way or the other. It's updated daily but it's not perfect and may contains false positive. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:35, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

My First Article - concerns

Hi! I recently created my first article, O.C. Tanner (company) because I saw that it wasn't here on Wikipedia. I know that it is still a work in progress and that User:Theroadislong tagged it for various concerns, and I was wondering if I could get a third party to look at it. Know that I do not have a COI with the organization, but with several articles mentioning it, I thought it was notable enough to get its own article. Thanks! Rollidan (talk) 18:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Rollidan. I believe that the company is notable and that you have made a very good start. Keep improving it, and congratulations on your first article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

How do I color my username at my Userpage?

I see that a lot editors have color in their signs, and also in their Username when I visit their profiles, I want to color my username (Not sign) Sign figured I can copy the source and make some changes according to my username and it can be fixed. --WikiLover97 (talk) 18:39, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Someone deleted my question

here is the revision history please restore it :) --WikiLover97 (talk) 18:55, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

I have restored the question but I see you worked it out [10] after help on your talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:39, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Completed Article

Hello, i created a page for Sample Injection Methods in maass spectrometer some days ago. But when i type in the keywords on google, the wikipedia page does not come up. I have to use the link before i and others can get to the page Olisaayodeji (talk) 19:00, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

@Olisaayodeji: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to make it better. Link: Sample_inlet_system_of_mass_spectrometer. New pages are not indexed by search engines until they have been reviewed by a new page patroller or until it is 90 days old, whichever comes first. RudolfRed (talk) 19:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

new to wikipedia please help

Hello, there, I created a page to write about Mundo Hispánico (a US Latino newspaper). I submitted that article under Mundo Hispánico user and It was declined. I am trying to have it approved now under my username (I just created my own username ArgieAtl19) Also, I need to know where I have to disclaim that I was hired to write that article. One more thing, I wondered if I can chat with Robert McClennon (he was the editor reviewing the page) or the editor is assigned randomly? Thanks in advance for your help. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MundoHispanico#May_2019

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to respect the rules for paid editing. Please read WP:PAID for the disclosure requirements. RudolfRed (talk) 21:05, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

You can create a comment on Robert's Talk page. You were given some guidance as part of the draft being declined. Articles for Creation are not so much assigned, as rather, a reviewing editor looks at the list and picks an article If you resubmit, very likely a different editor will provide a review. David notMD (talk) 23:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Discussing Edit With a User Who Uses IP Address Only?

I noticed that an editor identifiable by only an IP address removed a controversial section of an article, stating that the content was untrue and not necessary. The content was extensively cited; as to whether it was necessary is a matter of opinion. As I believe the content is relevant, objective, and informative, I would like to revert the deletion. To avoid an edit war, I would like to engage with the editor on the article's talk page to discuss. Discussing it on the article's talk page is more appropriate than discussing it on the user's talk page, correct? Is it possible to "ping" a user editing with only an IP address? I'm not sure how to contact this person to let him/her know I would like to engage in a discussion. Thank you for your guidance. LandLubber56 (talk) 01:43, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Without pinging, you could comment at the article's talk, and leave a short note at the IP's Talk. David notMD (talk) 02:10, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. That makes sense. I wasn't sure of logistics. LandLubber56 (talk) 02:22, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

new Wiki article not coming up in Google search

Hello

So I just moved an article draft from my sandbox into main namespace. But then, when I did a Google search for it, the Wiki article does not come as one of the hits. Usually, the Wiki entry on a person is the first hit. How can I "fix" this, please? Here is a link to the new draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Potenza_(guitarist)

Thanks BahnJour9120 (talk) 18:34, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

This is because the page has not been reviewed by a new page reviewer. New articles are not indexed until after they are reviewed to make sure they conform to basic Wikipedia policies on content. Once it's reviewed, you'll be able to find it on Google search. – Ammarpad (talk) 18:39, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

It's worth saying that even when it has been reviewed, we have no control over how long Google actually takes to index it. --ColinFine (talk) 21:21, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Good to know. Thanks ColinFine BahnJour9120 (talk) 03:28, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Links

Hello! I would like to help some articles that I read that could have more links. For instance, "Wikipedia Elvis Christmas".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Christmas

There are wikipedia articles about some of the songs that don't have links in the article. I searched, for instance, for 10. "I Believe" and found a Wikipedia article about the song. Elvis is mentioned in the article. I would like to help. If it is necessary to create a special article, just about Elvis and the song, the article I found has enough information to do it. Or maybe the link could just direct to the article about the song. Anyway, it is better than leaving the song without a link, isn't it?

Another point: there is an article about Mimi Stillman, a famous flutist and it has a link to an outside article... Well, this link was "stolen" to advertise a product that has nothing to do with Dante, or music. I would like to tell the people that have written the article about this "stolen link". How can I do it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimi_Stillman

In the SELECTED PUBLICATIONS there is this link: Mimi Stillman, The Music of Dante's Purgatorio, Hortulus: The Online Graduate Journal of Medieval Studies 1, no. 1 (2005): 13-21. If you follow it, it will go to this: http://www.hortulus.net/ - And the article is from another Hortulus that has stolen the link, I believe, because I saw this happen at another page about Dante, not Wikipedia: Diagnosing Cataracts POSTED ON MAY 22, 2018 (!!!)

This are my questions. I don't know how to do these things. Warm regards from Brazil, Tancredo Braga — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tan Neto (talk • contribs) 19:23, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

First of all @Tan Neto:, please dont forget to "sign" your posts with 4 tildes, so we know what your username is.

Re the Elvis album- sometimes an album may be notable enough for an article, but that doesn't mean every song on it will be. Actually, with only one amazon link as a reference, it is not at all clear that the rereleased Christmas double CD album itself is notable.

About the Mimi Stillman article, I managed to find an earlier version of the journal page archived via the Wayback machine (before it was highjacked/stolen) and linked to that. As it was not a reference, if there had not been any earlier versions available, I would have just deleted the link. Normally, for reference links, you should try and find a replacement/mark it as dead as per WP:DEADLINK. Curdle (talk) 03:43, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Stuck at Wikipedia Adventure mission 6 (civility badge)

I am stacking at Wikipedia Adventure mission 6 (civility badge). I already tried inserting the two paragraphs that are given but nothing happen. Any help would be appreciated.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmsppwa (talk • contribs) 01:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kmsppwa: Make sure you use the Adventure Helper,and check that you have completed all the steps. If it is a glitch, then you should log out and reset your device, then pick up where you left off. Warning: If you log out your progress will be lost in previous levels, but you will still keep the badges you earned, so ask yourself whether it is worth it. Eclipsefc (talk) 04:47, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kmsppwa: Welcome to the Teahouse. I'm really sorry to hear you've got stuck on one of the Missions. I do remember a roughly similar problem when I did it quite some while ago. I do know that the 'Adventure' doesn't work well on a mobile device, so is best done from a laptop or PC.(there are some notes about this on the front page of the Wikipedia Adventure intro screen. I also remember having to search right down extremely low on one page (I can't now remember which page), either for a link or a 'continue' button which was not at all obvious. Do please let us know how you get on and where the problem lay - this will help us assist future new editors. Once you get right to the end you should finish up with fifteen different badges on your userpage. You'll also find you've now got repeated "Welcome to The Wikipedia Adventure!" messages left on your Talk page each time you resatart the 'Adventure'. Feel free to remove the duplicates (or indeed all of them, if you don't want them there). Personally, I like seeing that new editors like you have undertaken the Adventure as it shows me they've taken the time and trouble to get to understand Wikipedia. I do welcome you here, and if we can ever help in the future, don't hesitate to drop by with more good questions. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 07:52, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Mam Khanyi page creation

I have created a page about a South African social reformer I know and admire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanyisile_Motsa_(Mam_Khanyi)

How do I get it checked for notability and published, please?

Also, I cannot upload a photo I took as Wiki cannot confirm my copyright. How do I confirm this?

Thanks (newbie question, I know, probably there is a FAQ but I can't find it.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmcann (talk • contribs) 18:52, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

• @Tmcann: Since you have a conflict of interest, you should not have created Khanyisile Motsa (Mam Khanyi) directly in the mainspace. The reason is that it is hard to write neutrally in such cases, and I am afraid you did quite a poor job to comply with WP:NPOV here. Nonetheless, because the references show that person is clearly notable, I fixed the tone (at least partially, has helped thousands is still kinda WP:PEACOCK-y). In the future, please use the Articles for Creation process.

Finally, please check WP:PAID and make the appropriate disclosure if necessary: if you receive any form of compensation for promoting that person on Wikipedia, disclosing a conflict of interest is not enough. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 08:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Article Declination

Recently i create an article for publish,it was about movie but rejected don't know why???

can anybody tell me about the Reasons of article declination??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sher dil 2019 (talk • contribs) 09:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Have you read the big pink box at the top of the article? There's a reason why and a link to the appropriate Wikipedia guideline in it. It was declined because it was not notable. - X201 (talk) 10:04, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

The draft in the user's sandbox: User:Sher dil 2019/sandbox/sher dil 2019. --CiaPan (talk) 10:28, 15 May 2019 (UTC)