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CanElec(t) templates

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:51, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:CanElec11 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:CanElec13 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:CanElect20 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, without documentation Bulwersator (talk) 17:16, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as CSD G7; deleted by RHaworth (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). (non-admin closure) jcgoble3 (talk) 19:55, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Züm stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless Bulwersator (talk) 17:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • As the creator, I've tagged it for speedy deletion. Note that it is NOT useless, just unused, so please stop using that expression just because you do not understand the purpose of similar templates. They are just not currently being used. Secondarywaltz (talk) 18:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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More Turkish transit templates

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:53, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Üçyol-Bornova lines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:İzmir Metro Route (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Üçyol-Bornova stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:İZBAN lines (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:İZBAN stations (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless, [most] without documentation Bulwersator (talk) 17:06, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as unused, unless they become properly used (i.e., there is no deletion rationale other than disuse), and with no prejudice against userspacing if someone still intends to do something with these (Secondarywaltz seems to imply this is the case, without being very clear). I have to concur with Secondarywaltz's comments that "useless" is subjective and unhelpful here; it's not a deletion policy kind of term. (In point of fact, it's actually false: Since we do have articles on at least Bornova and Izmir, an obvious use would be to write a section in the former about transit in the district and between it and others, and use this template there, and/or use it in the Izmir section about transportation.) This !vote applies also to the rest of the 5 or so transit templates nominated today by Bulwersator. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 01:11, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
FYI. Templates in a series like these, suffixed with "lines", "stations" and "color" are used by S-line succession templates to interpret input. They are often nominated for deletion when they appear to be "useless", but they have been created for a very specific use. Reasons for this may be that they never been properly implemented, been renamed or become disused, but care must be taken that they are not just waiting to be brought to life. Secondarywaltz (talk) 04:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Meh. If they were properly documented, this wouldn't happen, and if it does happen, WP:DRV exists for a reason. Most of the time, just explaining it to the deleting admin is enough. If someone shows that they are likely to be used, I'd change my !vote, but only if they were documented so people stop wasting their and my and your time TfDing them since they look like junk. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 05:08, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. What I took exception to is the reason was give as "useless" and the note above was to let you know their usage. I have nominated many of these common kinds of templates myself, but first I investigated their potential use and taken the time to understand how they work. Where there is no doubt, I will tag them with {{db-t3}} for speedy deletion, as not being employed in any useful fashion. That does not waste any time here. Secondarywaltz (talk) 05:54, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:55, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:ŠK Slovan Bratislava Squad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, duplication of the article Bulwersator (talk) 17:05, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:55, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Škoda timeline 1980 to date (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, without sources Bulwersator (talk) 17:04, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as unused (with no prejudice against userspacing if someone want to still do something with this). Lack of sourcing isn't a template deletion rationale, it's a content inclusion issue; each fact would need to be sourced in the main article prose, i.e. at Škoda Auto, or would be subject to deletion under WP:Verifiability, regardless of whether it appeared in a template or in main prose in an article, just like alleged facts in infoboxes and navboxes. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 02:01, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was speedy delete

Template:Vro li (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless, without documentation Bulwersator (talk) 17:03, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedily delete per WP:CSD#G1 (fails the "coherent non-English material" test, being unexplained non-English; it even has code to pop up a "?" cursor suggesting one clicks to get an explanation, but there isn't one). WP:CSD#T3 (it is an unused duplicate of Template:Vro icon, the only difference is code to pop up a "?" cursor indicating "click here for an explanation", but it isn't clickable, so the difference is worse than meaningless). Failing speedy deletion, delete as unused. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 02:12, 9 December 2011 (UTC) [updated 02:14, 9 December 2011 (UTC)][reply]
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The result of the discussion was keep for now Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:57, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:TFLsound (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless, without documentation Bulwersator (talk) 17:02, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy keep. It's reserved for the WP:TFL process, which intends to one day feature sounds on the main page. —WFC19:21, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. That the project "intends to one day" use it isn't a strong reason to keep this, but it doesn't hurt anything, and I can't see a reason to think that the intended use won't materialize "soon-ish". I'm hard pressed to think of any technical or other reason that sound file links on the front page would cause problems. That said, there's no indication that the nomination was disruptive point-making or otherwise bad faith, so "speedy" doesn't apply here. WP:TFL isn't magically immune to having TfD discuss (and even delete) templates related to it. If this template returned to TfD after a few months of still not being used, I'd go with "delete", per WP:NOT#CRYSTAL. We're not a MediaWiki code archive for templates that might conceivably be used some day by someone for something. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 02:26, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do wish people wouldn't put code into templatespace until it's actually going to be used. Still, as SMcCandlish says, we can just lay down a marker here and use it to establish the level of dust gathering on said code at some later point. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:55, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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T-bane icons

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:58, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:T-bane 1 icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:T-bane 1a icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:T-bane 2 icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:T-bane 3 icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:T-bane 4 icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:T-bane 5 icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:T-bane 6 icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless Bulwersator (talk) 17:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Seems somehow related to {{Infobox Oslo Metro station}}, so I notified Template talk:Infobox Oslo Metro station of the discussion. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 02:33, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Brighton transit templates

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:01, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Brighton & Hove Bus Metro 7 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Brighton & Hove Bus Metro 5 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless, unused Bulwersator (talk) 13:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per G7. -- Mentifisto 17:25, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Blue ribbon winner (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless, unused - there is no need for this template as filename is not complicated (File:Blueribbon icon.png) Bulwersator (talk) 12:58, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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English bishop navboxes

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The result of the discussion was no consensus Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:02, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bishops of Wells (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Bishops of Bath (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navbox, different templates this are used on articles Bulwersator (talk) 12:56, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have addressed this issue by adding these templates to the concerned articles DBD 18:51, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm of the same mind. Navboxen of this kind always do the job better. I've just been leaving them in situ because of the quo DBD 23:56, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:05, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bellmare H (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless, unused, without documentation Bulwersator (talk) 12:54, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:FTA (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless userbox Bulwersator (talk) 12:53, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:06, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:FlagO (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seems broken; old; unused; purpose unclear. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:28, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:06, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Flags of Africa (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not used: {{Africa topic}} (with appropriate parameters) is used in its place. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:25, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:07, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Flash Gordon (Queen album) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Covered sufficiently by the "Flash Gordon" row in {{Queen singles}}. Not used and not needed. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:20, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:07, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fleet Listing (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused; purpose unclear. Airline articles get by fine without this. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:17, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:07, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fires by year (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Superseded by {{catnav fires}}. Unused. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:12, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:07, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Feedback (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seems to be a one-time-use user talk page message from 2007, about who-knows-what. Not needed anymore. — This, that, and the other (talk) 09:10, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Numbers Templates

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Numbers (10s) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers 20s (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers 30s (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers 40s (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers 50s (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers 70s (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers 80s (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers 90s (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers 110s (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers (120s) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers (130s) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Numbers (integers) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused navboxes [Template:Numbers with 2 links] Bulwersator (talk) 05:54, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Notasocialnetwork (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, malformed, ugly user warning Bulwersator (talk) 05:53, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment: I untagged it. The idea that it could be considered a WP:CSD#T3 candidate was raised at the previous TfD, which closed with "keep", not "speedy", so the speedy deletion idea has already been rejected. And speedy wouldn't apply anyway, unless the template had changed radically from the version that previously survived TfD, to be even more of a useless clone of another template. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 03:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Template:Uw-socialnetwork, which is the same idea, if not precisely the same wording, but uses a more WP:UTN-standardized appearance, and is actually listed at UTN, unlike this template. Really, this didn't even need to be a TfD, since just swapping the code out for a redirect would probably never have been noticed by anyone, nor been controversial if it had been noticed. However, the template is not "unused", nor is it "malformed" in any way meaningful here. "Ugly" doesn't have anything to do with deletion policy and isn't a TfD rationale. This template is simply not used much and is similar enough to another that they can be safely merged (by way of redirection), this one into the better-known one. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 03:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Notfound (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless, without documentation Bulwersator (talk) 05:49, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete under CSD G7; deleted by Ronhjones (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA). (non-admin closure) jcgoble3 (talk) 00:54, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Central Michigan Chippewas football roster (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

As an intended single-use template, it should not exist. Content appears to be substituted at 2009 Central Michigan Chippewas football team. Jweiss11 (talk) 05:48, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was redirect Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:34, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Notability-inline (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

There is no need for YA cleanup template. Bulwersator (talk) 05:47, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete after moving talk page to Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Icons/Nobel_iconPlastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:41, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Nobel icon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless, unused, without documentation (I was unable to place TfD template on this template, as page is fully protected) Bulwersator (talk) 05:43, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:16, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:No drama (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless, unused Bulwersator (talk) 05:41, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per T3. Frietjes (talk) 16:37, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Nnote (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless, unused. There is no need for YA cleanup template. Bulwersator (talk) 05:40, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:No-inv (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, without documentation Bulwersator (talk) 05:40, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NoAdd (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Useless, unused Bulwersator (talk) 05:38, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete seems to have no point in existing. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 06:17, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as unused. It was clearly intended for some nomination process, but wasn't deployed. There's no need to hyperbolically characterize it as "useless" and "hav[ing] no point in existing", since we are not omniscient, nor is there any evidence on the template creator's talk page that anyone asked. And it was actually pretty clear that it did have a point, from its own simple wording. "Unused" is enough, and pejorative characterizations like that of templates the purposes for which you don't understand have a tendency to imply negative things about their creators. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 04:56, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, it's nice to see that civility can be present even in XFDs. Magister Scientatalk (Editor Review) 22:49, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NoClue (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Navbox with a single (!) link. Bulwersator (talk) 05:38, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete completely useless, links to one article with one link, there are no section links to that article, it doesn't link to that article multiple times, it's a single link to a single article. 70.24.248.23 (talk) 05:42, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as unused. If used, delete anyway, as a violation of WP:REDLINK (everything in this navbox would be a redlink if actually coded properly so that the things it attempts to navigate to were navigable). This is someone playing crystal ball: "Maybe this artist's single will be notable enough for articles and maybe someone will write them and maybe this template can then navigate between them." — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 04:40, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NkWiki Featured Picture (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Outdated template Bulwersator (talk) 05:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Nn-test1 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused, useless user warning template. Bulwersator (talk) 05:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Michigan county highway navigational boxes

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Alger County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Baraga County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Chippewa County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Delta County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dickinson County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Gogebic County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Grand Traverse County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Houghton County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Iron County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Keweenaw County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Luce County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Mackinac County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Marquette County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Menominee County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Ontonagon County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Presque Isle County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Schoolcraft County Highways (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Category:Michigan county highway navigational boxes (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All are unused, and haven't been used in some time. The articles all have Category:Transportation in Marquette County, Michigan, etc., categories to bind them together without using navboxes to do so. As an example, M-28 (Michigan highway) would have nine navboxes at the bottom of the article if these were redeployed to the articles, and if the other 66 Michigan counties had them made, Interstate 75 in Michigan would have 15 navboxes. The category will be emptied if these templates are deleted, so it has been nominated here as well. Imzadi 1979  00:48, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Behindwoods (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Recently created, unused, and unnecessary template for creating external links to a non-notable movie site. Redlink in the template is there because the article was deleted via PROD. Author spammed several talk pages to try to get people to use it, and (s)he has been warned for this and told by several users that the template is not needed (see User_talk:Yjenith#Behindwoods_news_template and subsequent sections on the same page). Delete. jcgoble3 (talk) 00:26, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom. Totally unnecessary. The user claims that it is for linking articles from the website Behindwoods (which is sometimes considered an inappropriate website for citations) under 'External links' sections in articles relating to Tamil cinema or Indian cinema. This however is not favourable to WP:EL. EelamStyleZ talk 06:00, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as a vehicle that can only be used for inserting inappropriate wp:ELNO's. - DVdm (talk) 07:32, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per above; it's a self-serving spamming tool, basically. And there are way too many templates like this already that make citation to generally rather unreliable bloggish sources easier. There's not point making it easier to add citations that just have to be replaced with something that actually satisfies WP:RS. PS: "Recently created" is not a template deletion rationale (in fact, with templates, it's frequently a reason not to delete, since a template's purpose, anticipated uses, actual eventual uses, reworkings to be even more useful etc., will not have happened yet). — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 04:47, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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