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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:34, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary, uses a single article heavily. Morever, Template:Lanka Premier League already exists. Empire AS Talk! 09:25, 5 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. There is a weak consensus here to delete. There is no prejudice against nominating the other related maps, nor is there prejudice against re-making this map using something other than the table format currently being used. Primefac (talk) 02:44, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a procedural nomination, as the template in question was originally in the article space; upon moving, the AFD that was open was closed as a moot point. Many of the concerns expressed about this page as an article also hold true as a template ("WP is not a map", "improper as a table", etc). Primefac (talk) 18:16, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Keizers, Hog Farm, Reywas92, and Power~enwiki: you have been pinged here as the primary contributors to the above-mentioned AFD. Primefac (talk) 18:17, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I also created templates for the Financial District and Historic Core, in addition to the Plaza and the Victorian CBD. FWIW, I've changed my focus to starting up my own site dedicated to the Victorian CBD. The main issue here is, to me, that a street grid adds a HUGE understanding to understanding what was where, and the geographical relationships of the buildings. All of this in a city (the Victorian CBD) that existed and is 99% obliterated. I can't think of a way to do it except for tables, where after I move on, someone else could keep it updated. Well, a Vector map with links is possible, but I started that and just wasn't willing to invest the man-days in creating it. On my own site I'll be freer, at least. If the current table-based map is unwieldly I wonder if it would help to have a separate map for each of the 3 major thoroughfares - Main, Spring, Broadway. It would make it narrower and there would only be two column of information to read. I'd be willing to do that.Keizers (talk) 19:59, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Primefac (talk) 02:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Only four out of the 32 teams have dedicated lists, thus this template fails to be useful for navigation. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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2014 Asian Games women's football game templates

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The result of the discussion was delete after subst'ing. Primefac (talk) 02:49, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do we really need separate templates for every single match while most of them never used in any other article? I think it's better to merge them all with the main page. the same as this case or this one. Mohsen1248 (talk) 21:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Redundant to {{Antonio Vivaldi}} - readers are better served by that horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:38, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as redundant, and not our normal, expected way of navigating. While some sidebars exist, they are for top-level topics and their key articles of most encyclopedic importance. We don't use them for things like an individual composer and their individual works. That's what page-bottom navbars are for (when even those are justified, which is less often than people try to create them, given the frequency of their deletion at TfD). This particular thing appears to be some weird pseudo-infobox. Just use an infobox, or just use an image, don't invent a confusing and redundant infobox–image–nav hybrid. It just looks like a broken, confusing infobox that is missing all the information it should have. Same goes for all of the same sort of templates nominated below.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  07:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:29, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hides the image (if one is provided) on mobile. Redundant to {{Lorenzo Ferrero}} - readers would be better served by that horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:37, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:09, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Readers would be better served by a horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:32, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:18, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Redundant to {{Giacomo Meyerbeer}} - readers are better served by that horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:30, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Redundant to {{André Messager}} - readers are better served by that horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Redundant to {{Étienne Méhul}} - readers are better served by that horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:26, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, above comments, and the fact that these templates have an unfortunate habit of becoming an excuse not to have unique lead images. Aza24 (talk) 05:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, after replacing with a horizontal navbox. a horizontal navbox would be much better for layout since it leaves more room for other right-floating content (such as infoboxes and images). Frietjes (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Redundant to {{Jean-Baptiste Lully}} - readers are better served by that horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:24, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:21, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, above comments, and the fact that these templates have an unfortunate habit of becoming an excuse not to have unique lead images. Aza24 (talk) 05:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, after replacing with a horizontal navbox. a horizontal navbox would be much better for layout since it leaves more room for other right-floating content (such as infoboxes and images). Frietjes (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Redundant to {{Franz Lehár}} - readers are better served by that horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:22, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:21, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, above comments, and the fact that these templates have an unfortunate habit of becoming an excuse not to have unique lead images. Aza24 (talk) 05:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, after replacing with a horizontal navbox. a horizontal navbox would be much better for layout since it leaves more room for other right-floating content (such as infoboxes and images). Frietjes (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:30, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Redundant to {{Luigi Cherubini}} - readers are better served by that horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:21, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, above comments, and the fact that these templates have an unfortunate habit of becoming an excuse not to have unique lead images. Aza24 (talk) 05:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, after replacing with a horizontal navbox. a horizontal navbox would be much better for layout since it leaves more room for other right-floating content (such as infoboxes and images). Frietjes (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:30, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Only six inclusions. List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Readers would be better served by a horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox (to be created?) and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:29, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Only six entries. Lists are collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Readers would be better served by a horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, above comments, and the fact that these templates have an unfortunate habit of becoming an excuse not to have unique lead images. Aza24 (talk) 05:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, after replacing with a horizontal navbox. a horizontal navbox would be much better for layout since it leaves more room for other right-floating content (such as infoboxes and images). Frietjes (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox (to be created?) and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:29, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List is collapsed by default. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Readers would be better served by a horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, above comments, and the fact that these templates have an unfortunate habit of becoming an excuse not to have unique lead images. Aza24 (talk) 05:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, after replacing with a horizontal navbox. a horizontal navbox would be much better for layout since it leaves more room for other right-floating content (such as infoboxes and images). Frietjes (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox (to be created?) and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Readers would be better served by a horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, above comments, and the fact that these templates have an unfortunate habit of becoming an excuse not to have unique lead images. Aza24 (talk) 05:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, after replacing with a horizontal navbox. a horizontal navbox would be much better for layout since it leaves more room for other right-floating content (such as infoboxes and images). Frietjes (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete after replacement with a navbox (to be created?) and either an image or infobox as appropriate. Primefac (talk) 02:27, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Only four entries. Fails WP:NENAN. Hides the image on mobile (the image should be retained in the articles when the template is removed). Readers would be better served by a horizontal navbox, at the foot of articles. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:15, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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But they didn't sign their accusation, nor do they offer any evidence.Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:24, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, above comments, and the fact that these templates have an unfortunate habit of becoming an excuse not to have unique lead images. Aza24 (talk) 05:35, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete, after replacing with a horizontal navbox. a horizontal navbox would be much better for layout since it leaves more room for other right-floating content (such as infoboxes and images). Frietjes (talk) 19:59, 19 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 02:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's just a copy of the original navbox. And also really hard to navigate. And unnecessary. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 19:29, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 06:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Obsolete & unused; replaced by {{Railway-routemap}}. AlgaeGraphix (talk) 19:07, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Driver development programs. (non-admin closure) ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 13:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Racing driver development with Template:Driver development programs.
Both navboxes cover the same topic (driver development programs). {{Racing driver development}} seems to be more complete but is not used as much as {{Driver development programs}}.
5225C (talkcontributions) 02:40, 14 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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