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Abra, Kadabra, and Alakazam
Akira Toriyama
  • Akira Toriyama - importance. Originally was low and is currently mid after i raised him to high (as i knew raising him to top without discussion would be reverted). I would say he should be top based on those listed as top and those listed as high as his impact to the medium seems beyond those mentioned in high and on par with Miyazaki.陣内Jinnai 19:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have requested further input as I am less familiar with his works and influences thereof, but would endorse a higher rating. The impact does not come through clearly in the article, though. G.A.Stalk 04:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Push to High but not top. An important figure of the Shonen manga, still popular even now. However outside that i don't see what's new did he bring to the "medium" compared to Yoshiharu Tsuge or Moto Hagio. Raising article importance rating won't make the article instantaneously better just attract more vandals & fanboys. For memory see this old discussion and how it went nowhere. --KrebMarkt (talk) 05:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I agree with categorization as high, not top. He's important, yes, but a discussion of manga without mentioning Toriyama would not be flawed the way a discussion of manga without mentioning Nagai and Tezuka would be. --erachima talk 06:05, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Concur with high but not top, for pretty much what erachima said. As important as, say, the Year 24 Group but not as important as Tezuka, is how I think of him. —Quasirandom (talk) 20:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • A discussion of modern manga, especially modern manga as and its influence/impact in the west, would indeed be fundimentally flawwed without Toriyama.陣内Jinnai 16:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        • A discussion of modern manga is a distinct matter from a discussion of manga in general. If you were discussing the 90s and 00s in manga, then yes, Toriyama would need mentioned. If you're discussing the entire history, then (while we're likely to mention him anyway due to WP:NOTPAPER) he'd be an optional inclusion. Hence high but not top. --erachima talk 18:14, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ayahi Takagaki
Baccano!
Seems good: the character section is too long (as you mentioned) and a reception section would also help a lot. G.A.Stalk 05:30, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bleach (manga)
List of Buso Renkin episodes
Canaan (anime)
C-Class. Left some hidden comments in the banner. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 11:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cardcaptor Sakura
Carl Macek
  • Carl Macek - I've just reassessed the article to Mid-importance, however, I see this as possibly being rated as high-importance. It is undisputed that Macek has made a historically significant contribution to anime by essentially creating an anime market in the US and Canada. First by his production of Robotech and the founding of Streamline Pictures. Because of his pioneering contributions, he had a significant influence on the US and Canadian anime industry as it is today. Note Any articles that receives an importance rating of "high" or "top" needs to have a community discussion first in order to form a consensus. —Farix (t | c) 19:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Case Closed
List of Case Closed characters
List of Case Closed episodes (season 18)
List of Case Closed episodes (season 19)
Case Closed: Full Score of Fear
List of Case Closed anime specials
Definitely heading in the right direction. The DVD release information is not required, though, refer to the current Featured Episode Lists. G.A.Stalk 05:30, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would be nice if the assessment in the discussion was completed.
List of Cross Game episodes
Cyborg Kuro-chan
Devilman
A Drifting Life
Done. Start as the article is missing a plot section, would easily be C class if one is added. G.A.Stalk 04:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fairy Cube
Existing assessment confirmed: B2: It would help if volume summaries are added. B4: The plot section is still very confusing and hard to follow. G.A.Stalk 04:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
List of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex episodes
  • List of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex episodes - I am relatively unfamiliar with the assessment scales, but I believe this list now qualifies as at least B Class. Would appreciate a reassessment to determine whether or not it is ready for a peer review before being nominated for FL status. Thanks! --BloodDoll (talk) 04:22, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment (Second opinion welcome): Usually I would prefer more consistency in episode length for featured lists: In this case the summaries for episodes 4,10, 24-26 might be a bit too long and that of 5, 6, 9, and 16 a bit too short (Episode 1 is ideal). G.A.Stalk 06:01, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I endorse this assessment. I'd say most the episode summaries are too long/too detailed. Consistency or not, I think they need to be summarized a bit better. Also those sections at the bottom could probably be integrated into the intro. There are also references to an ANN Encyclopedia article which isn't a reliable source. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 10:26, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ginga Legend Weed
Jigglypuff
Kagome Kagome (manga)
Koffing and Weezing
Little Fluffy Gigolo Pelu
Lucario
K-On!
Hayao Miyazaki
Michael Arias
Misty (Pokémon)
Mr. Mime
Ok. See Talk:Mr. Mime for more comments. Blake (Talk·Edits) 15:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Mr. Mime - I assessed this as C-Class about a month ago because of sourcing and I still don't feel comfortable with the sources used. Has been significantly improved since it was first assessed in September, but not much has changed in the last two months and I'm not sure it meets B1. VG project confirmed their B-Class rating. Requesting 2nd/3rd opinion with perhaps some talkpage comments. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 20:09, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • C-class.
    • 3 particular issues. First would be with #24. First off, is she a staff member at IGN? Ifso, fine, but the article doesn't support the statement of "multiple articles" as that is 1 item and it is a walkthrough, not an article.
    • The other issue Coventry Evening Telegraph which generally aren't considered reliable sources except on themselves or very rare cases. I do not know think that it is really the best source for the article and am not sure if it qualifies as a RS...maybe for its review of Pokemon games it does.
    • I would say this very likely qualifies for a {{onesource}} tag as it relies mostly on IGN for its analysis and primary sources for content. At the very least I'd put a {{refimprove}} tag on it.
    • A few items with structure and coverage need to be addressed as the character guidelines were updated to better reflect a path that is likely to create higher quality articles capable of getting WP:FA and based on other wipiproject standards for their character articles.陣内Jinnai 21:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
List of Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan episodes
Music of Neon Genesis Evangelion
  • Music of Neon Genesis Evangelion - This was assessed shortly after its creation as start-class. It's now improved largely and should be ready to be reassessed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Necrojesta (talk • contribs)
    • Numerous issues, some easy to fix.
      1. lots of statements missing citations
      2. needs more reception/real-world impact info for a non-list article.
      3. fails WP:HEAD - specially the points made for article titles which apply to headers about the length. While none are over 10 words, a lot are close to it and use several long words. Also several titles have punctuation, which they shouldn't and at least one seems to violate Trademark MOS with unusual capitalization.
      4. lists should not be hidden (don't know why the template allows this)
    • Forgot to add, I decided the issues are just too numerous for C-class. Fix some of the MOS ones and the accessability and it probably will be.陣内Jinnai 05:04, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • EDIT: Also you spell soundtrack inconsistently, including the use of CamelCase.陣内Jinnai 19:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
NG Life
Rayquaza
List of Reborn! episodes (season 6)
List of Reborn! episodes (season 8)
Redline (2010 film)
Saint Seiya
I've assesed the main article as C. While it needs work, the basic structure is there, along with plenty of info. With some effort, it could become a b class article.Dandy Sephy (talk) 18:28, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Checklist for main article completed. G.A.Stalk 05:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Saint Seiya Episode G
It needs an overhaul. Some sections are worthless and not mentioning. The art style comparison is full of Original Research. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 22:07, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Saint Seiya: The Movie
Current assessment confirmed. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Films/Assessment/Instructions#Stub_to_Start-Class_upgrading_instructions_for_films for instructions to improve the article to start class. G.A.Stalk 05:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Saint Seiya: The Lost Canvas
Current assessment confirmed. OVA descriptions required before B class may be considered. G.A.Stalk 05:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Saint Seiya: Next Dimension
Upgraded to C class, hidden comments left in banner code. G.A.Stalk 05:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It would be very much appreciated. --Refuteku (talk) 17:42, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

List of Samurai Pizza Cats episodes
  • List of Samurai Pizza Cats episodes - Added original Japanese titles (Kanji & Kana), U.S. airdates, short summmary for the episodes and some info about the original series. All information is being structurized in a table and the Template:Contains Japanese text is added.

    But there are still unsolved problems - it seems there are no (or very little) official/reliable sources of the data. The IMDB page titled "Samurai Pizza Cats" provides the airdates for the original KNT anime. Different fan-pages gives various titles for some episodes so I had to check the videos iteself to put the correct title. I may have to upload the screehshots of 52 episodes for Wikipedia to contain the reliable information.

    However, I have to specify all the sources I have used for the article. Hope my work will help to increase the class on the assessment scale. Teyandee (talk) 18:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    • Done. A few notes: {{Contains Japanese text}} should only be used under exceptional circumstances. Not here. IMDB is not a reliable source. Don't use it. Don't use fan pages, unless they demonstrably have a reputation for fact checking and accuracy among reliable sources, which is almost never. You don't have to upload screenshots. Any information you take directly from the episode you write about does not need to be cited. If you use such information outside the actual list, in the lead for example, then you can cite the episode. See {{cite episode}}. Goodraise 19:13, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sazae-san
  • Sazae-san most certainly has had a lasting impact decades after it was initially released. The article is C-class. The article for this manga from the Japanese Wikipedia is more fleshed out and might be good a reference source to improve the English language article (although it has a banner that mentions it has some issues).--Goodyfun
While the series is clearly important, has it actually have a lasting impact? I'm not sure tv ratings would count. Awful article either way, but then a lack of english sources doesn't help. The Ja.wiki article has a similar lack of sources.Dandy Sephy (talk) 11:32, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would also help greatly if the article had a "legacy" or "impact" section per the above. (I have no problem if the article is upgraded to Mid/High importance). G.A.Stalk 05:22, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could somebody tell me if any of these links are acceptable explanations for an importance upgrade? There is this poll I found http://www.myvoice.co.jp/biz/surveys/11910/index.html, after that I even found a translation of it into English http://www.animenation.net/blog/2008/06/24/poll-results-of-japanese-anime-viewers-revealed/, and finally this captioned photo from The San Diego Union-Tribune http://photos.signonsandiego.com/mangatour/manga11. Goodyfun (talk) 21:53, 19 March 2010 (UTC)Goodyfun[reply]
I can see an upgrade to mid importance, but not high; immensely popular, but in the same way that newspaper comics are here. Nobody watches the show religiously, and you'd be hard pressed to find many artists claiming it as a major influence. Doceirias (talk) 05:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's the longest running series I can think of (Doraemon comes close, though), and it's a series watched by a large chunk of the population, even those not interested in anime and manga. I know quite a number of "mundanes/muggles/pickyourname" who watch the show all the time. It's an odd duck, though, in that it's considered mainstream by the Japanese public, and it's likely had at least as large an impact in Japan as the Simpsons has had in the States. People really like the show, and it consistently gets high ratings. I would consider it a high importance. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 08:42, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I also inclined to up it to Mid. I should however emphasize that increase in importance won't make the article instantly better nor it will increase the number of editors involved in the article. --KrebMarkt 09:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can i have an asssessment check on these articles?
↑Above question was originally added for the next few articles to be assessed. G.A.Stalk 05:00, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It'll remain at C. Not much improvement. Ominae (talk) 22:47, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Which article are you talking about? Sazae-san? I'm still waiting on a response about importance (class can be worked on for sure... in the future, maybe). Goodyfun (talk) 16:50, 3 April 2010 (UTC)Goodyfun[reply]
Sekirei
Shinji Nagashima
Strawberry 100%
Sundome
Done, hidden comments left in article. G.A.Stalk 04:30, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
SWOT (manga)
Takahiro Omori
Touhou Project
Urusei Yatsura
Voices of a Distant Star
Media section seemed weak to me so rank C. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 08:20, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yakushiji Ryōko no Kaiki Jikenbo
YuYu Hakusho


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