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Request on 01:50:05, 25 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Diehardhouston

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Diehardhouston (talk) 01:50, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Trying to edit my post so it will clear submission

@Diehardhouston: Hi, what specifically do you need help with, and where? — kikichugirl speak up! 07:57, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

03:41:17, 25 February 2015 review of submission by 73.20.51.36

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73.20.51.36 (talk) 03:41, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Hello! I'm looking for advice to help get the Digital Folklore Project page accepted for creation. It's currently a project in its initial stages (there's only been one annual #DigitalTrendOfTheYear announced so far), but we're an official project at a land grant, research 1 university, and we'd like people to be able to find information on the project as it grows. Rather than have to backfill the information in the coming years, it would be great to be able to keep the project's Wikipedia page updated from the start as we go.

I noticed that the Native American Mascot Controversy, one of our two runners up for 2014, has its own Wikipedia page, and our project was mentioned in several articles about that controversy. I included one of those article (from the Daily Kos) in the references; would including more help? While the project may seem small and local, the selection committee featured scholars from universities across the country (including the Library of Congress). Would it help to mention that explicitly in the description?

Any advice is much appreciated! Thank you!

(Just a note--I've registered a username: BluePlate55. Not sure if it will automatically link up with my IP address. Sorry. I'm new.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BluePlate55 (talk • contribs) 04:10, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately being an official project at a university, and having scholars from other universities involved, are both things that do not contribute to establishing notability. Looking at the Daily Kos item that you included, it appears to be a press release from an initiative that the Digital Folklore Project recognised. It cannot, therefore, be considered an independent source and thus is not useful in proving the notability of the topic. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 10:44, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

12:59:37, 25 February 2015 review of submission by Leachim 1

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Hello, I am trying to submit the article ISA Internationales Stadtbauatelier. My arcticle has been declined several times due to missing references. Now I have added a lot of newspaper articles and webpages to prove my writing. Still it got declined and I do not understand why. Could somebody help me? Thanks in advance. Leachim 1 (talk) 12:59, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Leachim - Missvain gave you a pretty good, succinct explanation: the vast majority of your citations are primary sources. Wikipedia asks for secondary sources. A primary source is any source associated with the subject of the article. Press releases and interviews are primary sources, articles written by the article's subject or a member of the group would also be primary. Onel5969 (talk) 16:16, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:27:15, 25 February 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Rich1949

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I have been working on a post for a bio for Stan Sofer. Years ago I made my only other posting on Wikipedia about a person named Marc Barhonovich.

Today I got a rejection notice saying that it was an advertisement, and used copyrighted material. That post is ancient and should be deleted, but I don't see how to do so.

If the comment on Copyrighted material is about the Stan Sofer posting, I don't see what material it is, and would just like to delete it to exclude it, but am not sure exactly what to delete.

Any help? I have tried to stick to "just the facts" on the posting, but am new to the rules here. Thanks...


Rich1949 (talk) 14:27, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Rich1949: I'm not sure why you received two notices, but the messages were referring to the content you had at User:Rich1949/sandbox. In general, Wikipedia does not accept content copied and pasted from other sources. Such material is usually copyrighted, and even if it isn't it is usually written in a tone that is too promotional sounding. If you would like a copy of what used to be located at User:Rich1949/sandbox emailed to you, you can request it at WP:REFUND. Before posting the content again, make sure to remove or rewrite anything that wasn't written in your own words. --Ahecht (TALK
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14:46:21, 25 February 2015 review of submission by Leeharrispomeroy

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Leeharrispomeroy (talk) 14:46, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I resubmitted my article on Lee Harris Pomeroy on January 14th but have not had a response. The revised submission had links to numerous Wikipedia pages and other online sources. Please let me know if the re submission has been received and/or what I should do next.

Hi Leeharrispomeroy - it does not appear to have been resubmitted yet. Simply click on the resubmit button in the declined box. Onel5969 (talk) 16:10, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

15:12:02, 25 February 2015 review of submission by Simonac80

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Hello I submitted an article on the Swiss federal Office of Communications, it is a translation of the article in German. Unfortunately it was not approved because of lacking references. My question is, how can I provide an independent reference for a governmental istitution? The article only presents the area of competence of the organization and the laws to which it is submitted. I find it difficult to find references outside of the organization's website. It is indeed the Federal Council that decided the Office's tasks and competence.

Thank you for your help! Simonac80 (talk) 15:12, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What about news articles? Surely such an authority will make the news occasionally. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:03, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

20:52:54, 25 February 2015 review of submission by DCFEternal25

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I submitted a draft from my sandbox. It was deleted due to copyright infringement. I don't understand copyrights but I contacted the individual whom I was creating a wikipedia article about and got their permission to use the content. Does that still qualify as copyright infringement? Infringement implies that I am doing something without permission. I revised the submission and I assume that was not adequate either. There is certainly going to be some overlap even for a complete rewrite of the article. Is there a limit to the number of pages that can be deleted? I'm trying to learn how to create this article properly.

DCFEternal25 (talk) 20:52, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@DCFEternal25: In general, Wikipedia does not accept content copied and pasted from other sources. All content on the web is assumed to be under copyright unless it specifically states otherwise. In order to get the proper permission to use the material on Wikipedia you (or the individual in question) would have to follow the instructions at WP:Donating copyrighted material. However, note that material written by the subject of the article by definition has a conflict of interest, as the information that one puts on their own website is generally designed to be promotional sounding. If you want to avoid having your drafts rejected or deleted you should make sure that everything is written in your own words and that you maintain a neutral point of view. --Ahecht (TALK
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21:49:52, 25 February 2015 review of submission by MorganLFeld

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Why was my article on the IFFS rejected as "not notable" when several of it's peer associations (ASRM; ESHRE; FIGO) are on Wikipedia and with either fewer citations, or only citations sourced directly from that organization's website? Former committee members include reproductive health pioneers; as I've noted. Current standards on repro-health are in conjunction with the WHO; as I've noted. And there are no less than a dozen separate references to the IFFS on other Wiki articles, again, as pertains to IVF organizations/practitioners. MorganLFeld (talk) 21:49, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Drafts are reviewed on their own merits, not in comparison with existing articles. The process of fixing or deleting problematic existing articles happens separately. An organisation cannot inherit notability merely because some of its members are notable. Nor are links with other notable organisations a contributing factor in proving notability. Mentions in other Wikipedia articles do not contribute to proving notability. What is required to prove notability of a topic is explained at Wikipedia:VRS... significant coverage in multiple reliable sources all of which are independent of the topic. Further, you cannot copy-paste or closely summarise the organisation's own material in a Wikipedia article, please see Wikipedia:COPYPASTE and Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 13:17, 27 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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