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00:04:18, 6 June 2019 review of submission by 80.195.23.149

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{{Lafc|username= RomeZw 80.195.23.149|ts=00:04:18, 6 June 2019|page= — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.23.149 (talk)

04:19:30, 6 June 2019 review of submission by Kevinbade

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Kevinbade (talk) 04:19, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


Hi there. I need help! I am working on a page for Ken Davis Music the company (and artist's music). It is not finished yet. I have been engaged by Ken Davis to do this for him. I have known Ken since his early live performances in Sydney in the 1980s. 1) I am wondering how to remove the Conflict Message and 2) why Ken Davis Music is considered not notable enough for WikiPedia. Ken Davis Music has been with us for over thirty years and Kev Davis compositions have been sold on tapes and CDs around the world and now Ken Davis Music can be streamed on Spotify and Google Music. Ken is an Australian pioneer electronic music. Thanks.

"I have been engaged by Ken Davis to do this for him." Where is your declaration to comply withWP:PAID? Jannik Schwaß (talk) 06:13, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

06:10:38, 6 June 2019 review of submission by Kishorlamdande007

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Kishorlamdande007 (talk) 06:10, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

06:55:55, 6 June 2019 review of draft by Meneer

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This draft has been reviewed a few times, long ago and since I revised it quite a lot, restructuring, comparing with pages of competing companies, adding references, removing potentially commercial text. What's needed to get it reviewed again?

Meneer (talk) 06:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Meneer. Patience is needed. The draft has been in the pool to be reviewed again since 14 March. The current backlog is 15 weeks, so it is likely to be examined around the end of the month. --Worldbruce (talk) 14:35, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

08:12:23, 6 June 2019 review of draft by ImSonyR9

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I have given too many refs for that aforementioned article even gave more than 6 refs from first class news portal of India. Still Page reviewer demanding for more suitable refs. Now, Should I find refs from New York Times?

ImSonyR9 (talk) 08:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've left a comment on the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 15:24, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

09:44:50, 6 June 2019 review of submission by Geoff Hill 123

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Draft:Global Knowledge MfD for deletion of draft

This has now been rejected several times, but I see little difference between it and entries such as this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Horizons_Computer_Learning_Centers Geoff Hill 123 (talk) 09:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Geoff Hill 123: - that draft was deleted for extensive advertorial puffery. The presence (or absence) of another article on Wikipedia can't be used to support (or reject) any draft or prospect. It might be that the New Horizons article should be deleted. For a good explanation on why this is the case, have a read of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Nosebagbear (talk) 12:10, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

13:39:28, 6 June 2019 review of draft by Leelaamayi

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I have created a page on Dr Hema sane, which is already published in Marathi language (please refer to https://mr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/हेमा_साने). It's about a great personality who is an academician, Nature lover, Author of various international papers in botany. Most special part about her is she has been living without using electricity for the last 60 years(Please refer to the news articles in draft page). With huge respect, I tried to create a page on such a wonder woman. Wikipedia has many pages about celebrities, but having a page about a silent revolution like her can change many hearts. I submitted the draft page for review three weeks ago. I request assistance for speeding up this review process and suggest any changes if required. World have to learn a lot from her. !!

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leelaamayi (talk • contribs) 13:53, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

లీలా 13:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

15:22:03, 6 June 2019 review of submission by Jrpmd1221

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Thank you for your assistance! I have been trying to get a page published on a Maryland County Executive, the rules of notability have been explained to me which I believe I have an understanding of. He has not held state office so he does not qualify for automatically having a page, so someone who creates a page for him must prove he is notable outside of Anne Arundel County and Maryland. My confusion comes with the fact that other Maryland County Executives who have also not held state office have pages. Marc Elrich and Angela Alsobrooks hold the equivalent level of office as Steuart Pittman, and the sources provided in their pages are sources from their respective counties and the State of Maryland, which I have been told would not qualify to meet the notability standards. I understand if he does not meet the standards, but I don't understand how people of similar notability and qualification have pages unless the standards are not being applied universally. If there is any clarification you can provide or advice to enhance the page I've created in order for it to meet the requirements I would greatly appreciate your assistance.

Jrpmd1221 (talk) 15:22, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jrpmd1221. Marc Elrich has been nominated for deletion twice. The first time, it was deleted. The second time, it was kept largely because of considerable coverage in The Washington Post and on WTOP. Another factor for some participants in the discussion was the population of Montgomery County, about a million (roughly twice that of Anne Arundel County).
Angela Alsobrooks has not gone through any formal assessment. If it did, it might be kept because she is the first woman elected to the office, or for reasons similar to those that arose in the case of Elrich. Or it might be deleted. Don't confuse existence with "should exist", or use existence as an excuse to create similar articles. The essay WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS may help you understand why. --Worldbruce (talk) 19:36, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response Worldbruce! That information is helpful. Do you know if there is a definition of "considerable coverage" for Wikipedia? The Anne Arundel County Executive has had a lot of his policies covered in The Washington Post and WTOP as well, but my understanding was that I should show a variety of sources, not cite consistent coverage from these sources. Any advice there? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrpmd1221 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

15:51:01, 6 June 2019 review of submission by XernonnE.L.

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Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition

Has written musical theatre of some sort (includes musicals, operas, etc.) that was performed in a notable theatre that had a reasonable run as such things are judged in their particular situation and time.

Has written a composition that has won (or in some cases been given a second or other place) in a major music competition not established expressly for newcomers

Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itsel

Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart.

Has had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.

Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award.


XernonnE.L. (talk) 15:51, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]


16:33:56, 6 June 2019 review of draft by Ekh14psv

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Ekh14psv (talk) 16:33, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How do I incorporate a graph made in excel? Thanks for your assistance Best regards //Peter

Hi Ekh14psv you need to save/convert the graph to an image file (others already in the draft are png files) then upload it and use it in the draft.

17:28:00, 6 June 2019 review of draft by Earth0001

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Hello! Please tell me what I need to add to the article? Thank you.

Earth0001 (talk) 17:28, 6 June 2019 (UTC)Earth0001[reply]

Hi Earth0001. The draft is in the pool to be reviewed. With the current backlog, you can expect that to happen within the next four months or so. It's likely to be declined for the same reason that an earlier draft on the subject was declined. Novices are commonly advised to cite at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage of the subject.
Časoměr is a start, but holocaust.cz does not help demonstrate notability because it is indiscriminate. It aims to document every victim within certain geographic and temporal bounds, including "the stories of quite normal people and families". Inclusion criteria vary among different language versions of Wikipedia. Not everyone meets the English Wikipedia's notability criteria (is a suitable subject for an encyclopedia article). If you want to write about the subject in English, you may wish to consider alternative outlets with different inclusion criteria. --Worldbruce (talk) 23:02, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

17:45:32, 6 June 2019 review of submission by Manstondrive1818

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Manstondrive1818 (talk) 17:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please tell me why this copy is not published

Any comments gratefully received

Steve Judge’s was involved in a near fatal car accident in 2002. As a way of getting back on his feet Judge turned to sport.

Judge underwent five years of rehabilitation and training he eventually represented Great Britain as a disabled athlete and achieved World Champion status in Paratriathlon twice.

Career results[edit] ETU European Triathlon Championships PT3 2010 2nd Place ETU European Triathlon Championship Athlone, Ireland[5] 2011 1st Place ETU European Triathlon Championship Pontevedra, Spain[6] 2012 2nd Place ETU European Triathlon Championship Eilat, Israel[6] 2013 2nd Place ETU European Triathlon Championship Turkey ITU World Triathlon Championships PT3 2011 1st Place ITU World Triathlon Championship Beijing, China[8] 2012 1st Place ITU World Aquathlon Championship Auckland, New Zealand[9] 2012 1st Place ITU World Triathlon Championship Auckland, New Zealand[10] 2013 2nd Place ITU World Triathlon Championship London, Great Britain[11] ITU World Triathlon International Events PT3 2010 1st Place ITU World Paratriathlon Event London, Great Britain[12] 2011 1st Place ITU World Paratriathlon Event London, Great Britain[13] British Triathlon National Events Paratriathlon PT3 2009 1st Place British Paratriathlon Championships, Rother Valley (T4 category) 2010 1st Place British Paratriathlon Championships, Holme Pierrepont 2011 1st Place British Paratriathlon Championships, Holme Pierrepont 2012 1st Place British Paratriathlon Championships, Holme Pierrepont 2013 British Paratriathlon Championships, Liverpool

British Triathlon National Events Paraduatthlon PT3 2013 1st Place British Paraduathlon Championships 2014 1st Place British Paraduathlon Championships

Awards and honours[edit] Sport 2010 Male Paratriathlete of the Year.British Triathlon Federation[16] 2011 Male Paratriathlete of the Year.British Triathlon Federation[17] 2011 Outstanding Achievement Award Sheffield Triathlon Club 2011 Outstanding Achievement Award Sheffield Triathlon Club

Steve Judge retired from elet sport in 2013 and went on to work for The Scout Association as a Regional Media Development Officer.

In October 2017 Judge was is announced as Cerebral Palsy Sport Ambassador

Sources/references

http://triathloninspires.com/sjudgestory.html https://wts.triathlon.org/athletes/profile/40955/steven_judge https://www.schoolspeakers.co.uk/speaker-listings/steve-judge-speaker https://sportsaid.org.uk/news-main/news/athlete-of-the-month-steven-judge/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pie40ZqRZE https://www.cnwl.nhs.uk/news/nhs-saved-life-steve-judge-two-times-world-champion/ http://www.cpsport.org/news/latest-news/steve-judge-is-announced-as-cp-sport-ambassador/ http://triathlon220.com.au/profiles/steve-judge

Hi Manstondrive1818. The short answer is that you haven't asked for it to be published. The draft you submitted in 2018 was declined. This year you started a new version, but have not submitted it for review. The draft doesn't look much like a normal Wikipedia article, so before you do anything else, you may want to revise it in accordance with Your first article and the Manual of Style. When you're ready, you can submit it by adding {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft and saving it. --Worldbruce (talk) 23:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

18:49:25, 6 June 2019 review of draft by Lajmmoore

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Hi! I'm trying to build a page for Leeds Discovery Centre because it is a fantastic museum storage facility in Yorkshire, is nationally well-known and is an important part of Leeds' cultural landscape. My first attempt was deleted and I think I've now made the declarations I need to? But I'm not sure. I wondered if someone could have a look at the start of this page and give some positive feedback. Is this the kind of suitable referencing and content that editors would be happy for me to build on? I guess, I'd just like a bit of guidance as I am very new to the whole wiki world. Thanks in advance!

Lajmmoore (talk) 18:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

20:48:03, 6 June 2019 review of draft by 71.112.160.59

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71.112.160.59 (talk) 20:48, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The company was on television. Is that not a notable source?

Probably not and press releases certainly aren't suitable sources either. Theroadislong (talk) 21:04, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

21:49:41, 6 June 2019 review of submission by Gedgmoss

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I keep seeing this message "AFCH error: user not listed AFCH could not be loaded because "Gedgmoss" is not listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Participants. You can request access to the AfC helper script there. If you wish to disable the helper script, click here. If you have any questions or concerns, please get in touch! "

Gedgmoss (talk) 21:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC) G.Moss Gedgmoss (talk) 21:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gedgmoss (talk) 21:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Gedgmoss: - hi that's what you see when an edit tries to use our reviewing script, but hasn't been granted the permission. Were you trying to review something, or were you seeing this error message while doing something else? Nosebagbear (talk) 13:49, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @Nosebagbear - yes I was trying to edit my own (Draft) article and because I'm relatively new to Wiki, the reviewing script sounded like it might help me but perhap it's not what I thought I needed. Do I need to be granted some sort of permission or perhaps I should just not be using it? Gedgmoss (talk) 17:31, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Gedgmoss. To get the attention of a specific editor, you need to use a notification template, as described in Help:Talk. Unlike some other systems, it doesn't work to simply preface their name with an @ sign.
The script is a tool that mechanizes some reviewing tasks, but it doesn't generate any feedback for you, all of that comes from the experienced Wikipedians using the script. Because it's easy for inexperienced users to make a big mess with the tool, access to it is restricted to editors with more than 500 edits in article space (you have 15).
At Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions you can see the flowchart that reviewers follow when examining drafts. You can use it as a checklist to self-evaluate, thereby making sure the draft is as good as it can be before it reaches a reviewer.
You've made only sporadic edits over the years. If you would be interested in fixing problems in more articles if you knew where the problems were and what tools were available to help, I can point you in the right direction. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:10, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

23:44:58, 6 June 2019 review of submission by DanishAmericanClub

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Hi,

I am a representative of a club for Danish expats based in Southern California. We try to make information available about Danes who have achieved a certain level of accomplishment in the U.S. or have been the object of attention here in other ways. We do not charge for this service and the work happens entirely on a volunteer basis (which also explains its irregularity). We uploaded the first draft of the page on Dr. Morten Bay last year under a different account, which now appears to be defunct. We understand that it was rejected because it was too much like a profile and not an encyclopedia entry. We did request a detailed bio from Dr. Bay as we do with all members we try to provide information about. The first draft reflected that and the information we found on Dr. Bay's Danish Wikipedia page.

We have now edited the draft to only focus on factual information about Dr. Bay's scholarly work. Please advise if there are any further steps we can take to make the entry compliant with Wikipedia's rules.

Thank you,

Peter Juul

DanishAmericanClub (talk) 23:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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