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06:17, 5 November 2024 review of submission by PDKB123

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Pcx1 Present is a rising artist, and the provided biographical information is accurate. Despite this, the article has not been approved. Could you please provide insight into the specific reasons for the disapproval? Ensuring that all information meets the required standards and guidelines, we seek to understand any necessary adjustments to facilitate the approval process. PDKB123 (talk) 06:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article doesn't have a single, reliable, independent source that provides significant coverage of Pcx1 Present. The article is also written in an extremely promotional and has large sections that appear to be AI generated. There's nothing suitable here and it appears this article was written WP:BACKWARDS. If there is to be an article, it needs to start with what can be found in reliable sources not connected with Pcx1 Present in any way. That means no social media, no YouTube, no websites connected to Pcx1 Present, etc. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 07:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

06:33, 5 November 2024 review of submission by AjayKumarLwym

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Hello,

I recently submitted an article draft titled "Refit Animal Care" to the Articles for Creation process, but it was unfortunately declined. I would like to understand the specific reasons for this decline so I can improve the article and resubmit it.

Any guidance or feedback regarding what changes or additional information might be needed would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your assistance!

Best regards, Ajay Kumar AjayKumarLwym (talk) 06:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The specific reasons were quite clearly laid out. As it currently stands, the article is very poorly sourced, with the only sources listed being the company's website. Wikipedia has little interest in what a company says about itself, but about the company's significant coverage by independent, reliable sources say about the company. WP:ORGCRIT goes into this in more detail.
So if you want there to be an article, you need to show what reliable sources, independent of Refit, have to say about Refit. And if those sources are not to be found, then there's no article to write because this is the very basis for how Wikipedia is built. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 07:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:04, 5 November 2024 review of submission by 2A02:908:1C24:5700:9F1:9E7E:9EA8:34BB

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Hello help desk team, I would like to ask you to take a look at the DIALux draft page (Draft:DIALux) Is this draft so bad that I no longer get a chance to improve it? It was finally rejected by a user who has since been blocked. The user behaved similarly with other articles and these were reset. Another user who looked at this is also currently being heavily criticized. Unfortunately, I still don't have a registered account. Is that a big problem? I would be very happy to continue working on it until it meets the requirements. Thanks a lot for your help! 2A02:908:1C24:5700:9F1:9E7E:9EA8:34BB (talk) 07:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed your post for proper display of the link to your draft(you had additional words in the link). The whole url is unnecessary when linking to a Wikipedia page as well.
Rejection does typically mean it won't be considered further. If you can fundamentally change the draft to address the concerns of the reviewers(which hasn't been done yet) you can come back and request that the community look at it(normally the first step is to appeal to the last reviewer, but as you note they are blocked).
The main issue is that the draft just documents the existence of the software and tells what it does. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about it, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. For a product, that usually involves summarizing reviews by professional reviewers, not just documenting what it does and its uses. 331dot (talk) 07:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

07:41, 5 November 2024 review of submission by Raedali1

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I will try my best to add information and sources so that this article is sufficient for anyone Raedali1 (talk) 07:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Great. If you do that, the first step is to appeal to the last reviewer and ask them to reconsider. 331dot (talk) 07:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

09:03, 5 November 2024 review of submission by Alex Sander Saravanan

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I create one wiki page but it's rejected so many time, i need to some one assist to finish this work Alex Sander Saravanan (talk) 09:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't the place to solicit co-editors. 331dot (talk) 12:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

10:31, 5 November 2024 review of submission by Sanskarpulami

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it is my personal bio Sanskarpulami (talk) 10:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Sanskarpulami, Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia not a social media site like LinkedIn. We do not host "personal bios". Qcne (talk) 10:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your draft was rejected (which means the end of the road) because it has no sources, and there is no indication that you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. Wikipedia is not a directory or social media: it is an encyclopaedia, that contains neutral, well-sourced articles about notable topics.
In addition, writing about yourself is very strongly discouraged in Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 10:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

12:23, 5 November 2024 review of submission by Sivakumar.msat

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Subject: Response to Speedy Deletion Nomination for Draft G

Hello, and thank you for reviewing this draft.

I understand the concern regarding promotional content, and I am committed to revising it to meet Wikipedia’s neutrality and encyclopedic standards. My goal is to create a factual, unbiased entry that highlights Sivakumar G’s contributions and relevance in his field.

Thank you for your time and guidance.

Extended content
Draft Content:

Sivakumar G

Born: June 1980 Nationality: Indian Occupation: CEO & Managing Director, AEITY Systems Pvt Ltd Education: MBA, Bachelor’s in Computers

Overview: Sivakumar G is an Indian entrepreneur and technology executive recognized for his contributions to software development, IT consulting, and digital transformation. He is the Founder and CEO of AEITY Systems Pvt Ltd, specializing in advanced software solutions. With over 22 years in the technology sector, he is noted for driving innovation and business growth.

Early Life and Education: Raised in Bangalore, Sivakumar completed his schooling at Sri Sathya Sai High School and earned a Bachelor’s in Computers from Sri Krishna Devaraya University, followed by an MBA from Sikkim Manipal University.

Career Highlights:

Early Career: Sivakumar began his career at the Social Welfare Department, later joining Wipro Technologies in quality assurance for embedded systems.

Notable Positions:

CEO, AEITY Systems: Founded AEITY Systems, focusing on software, AI, and cloud solutions. Senior Leader, Adobe (2014 - 2023): Led digital transformation initiatives and complex program management. SAP Test Manager, Sony Electronics (2012 - 2014): Managed ERP testing and quality assurance. Project Lead, Tech Mahindra (2011): Directed ERP testing for healthcare clients. System Engineer, IBM (2008 - 2011): Managed quality assurance in diverse projects. Skills: Digital Transformation, Business Strategy, Quality Engineering, ERP Management, AI Integration

Leadership at AEITY Systems: In 2023, Sivakumar founded AEITY Systems, quickly establishing it in software development with advancements in AI, machine learning, and blockchain.

Achievements and Recognition:

Product Launches: Successfully developed technology products. Industry Awards: Recipient of the CIO Award from Adobe. Mentorship: Actively mentors entrepreneurs and supports tech education. Personal Life: Based in Bangalore, Sivakumar engages in sports and community service activities, reflecting his commitment to personal and societal growth.

Conclusion: Sivakumar G continues to drive innovation at AEITY Systems, leveraging his experience to lead in digital transformation.

References:

[Add relevant references, articles, or publications here.]

Sivakumar.msat (talk) 12:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Sivakumar.msat, Wikipedia does not host AI-generated spam articles. Your draft has been rejected, will not be considered further, and will soon be deleted. Qcne (talk) 12:28, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We also don't host resumes. 331dot (talk) 12:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:53, 5 November 2024 review of submission by Pavolkrisko71

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Hi, I journalist I am asking You: Do You think is fair and legal that after every declining of the article I recieved email that if I pay assistence, all the problems will resolved? Isnt it called blackmailing?

Apart that the complaints are unfounded. Pavolkrisko71 (talk) 13:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Pavolkrisko71. Scam warning! There is a scam underway, targeting editors who attempt to publish Wikipedia article(s); see WP:SCAM for more information. If you have been approached by someone offering to create, accept or otherwise help publish an article in exchange for a payment, please e-mail the details to paid-en-wp@wikipedia.org. Qcne (talk) 13:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

14:26, 5 November 2024 review of submission by Vijayadasa

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Seriously, is there any support system available? Here I am trying to record one of the missing films from some notable actors' filmography, and all I am getting are dismissive moves from other editors citing one reason or other - initially it was lack of sources; when I added enough sources, those references are dubbed as "only in passing", with additional accusations of plagiarism. If some editor bothers to look up the filmography of any of the major actors in the cast here, they can see that the Wikipedia pages most of the films listed there cite no more sources than what I have listed here. Some have even less. At this point, I am utterly at a loss to discern what to do to contribute to Wikipedia. Vijayadasa (talk) 14:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Vijayadasa, your article was moved to draftspace on 27 October - it only had a single source to IMDb. You might not know, but Wikipedia does not consider IMDb a reliable source. We also want to see articles have multiple sources, usually more than three. It was correctly moved to draft.
The draft was then declined on 01 November as you had incorporated copyrighted material into the body of the text. Copyright violations puts the entire project at risk of litigation, and therefore we speedily remove suspected copyrighted text and remove the trace of it from the article history. By default, unless specifically said otherwise, assume all text you find on the internet is copyrighted.
So, I only see two incidents of other editors contributing to the draft, and both times they acted correctly.
It might be worth reading our notability guidelines on films. In essence we are looking for significant coverage with review, discussion, analysis, commentary, etc of the film in multiple reliable, independent sources. Not interviews with the cast or crew (as that wouldn't be independent), not forums or random blogs (as that wouldn't be reliable), and not very brief mentions (as that wouldn't be significant coverage).
Lets go through your sources:
  1. A listing, no significant coverage.
  2. As above.
  3. This states it is a film review, but it's mostly just a plot re-cap so doesn't provide that independent commentary.
  4. A listing, no significant coverage.
  5. As above.
So, none of your sources really work for this article.
If you can find at least three film reviews from mainstream film review journalists, then you might have a viable article.
Hope that helps. Qcne (talk) 14:38, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of thanks for the detailed response. I accept the point about plagiarism, and it is totally possible to add a plot without plagiarism if only the article would be accepted. But regarding sources, these are the only kind of sources available for any of the films from this industry from that period. It can be seen that the references and sources for any of the films listed in the filmography of the actors in this film are even more scantier than this. The one solid source, 3, you say is mostly just a plot re-cap. None of the films from that era and class are likely to have more significant coverage than this. As such I don't know what to do. If at all this is how we do it, how is it that all those other films have Wikipedia pages with even less sources? Vijayadasa (talk) 14:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately Wikipedia has millions of articles, many tens of thousands of which are poor quality. As we're a volunteer project no editor has gotten around to improving or deleting them yet. Our standards have also increased over the two decades Wikipedia has existed, so what may have been acceptable then may not be now.
If those are the only sources available, then it doesn't seem like this is a notable film. If it helps sources can be offline (print newspapers, books etc)? As long as they are published and you provide a full reference. Qcne (talk) 14:59, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Vijayadasa If you want to help us, please identify these other articles "with fewer sources" you have seen so action can be taken. We're only as good as the people who choose to participate. The more participants, the quicker we can weed out inappropriate articles so people like you don't see them. 331dot (talk) 15:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

16:21, 5 November 2024 review of submission by MrBumpTiger

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Hi. I am a photographer by the name Alastair Philip Wiper. I disclosed a conflict of interest and submitted a page about myself to Articles for Creation at: Draft:Alastair Philip Wiper. AfC reviewer @Ktkvtsh: said I was not allowed to write an article about myself and I should abandon the submission. This is confusing, because I thought I was following proper procedure by disclosing and submitting to AfC for independent review against the Wikipedia:PHOTOGRAPHER criteria. Hoping somebody here will illuminate things for me. MrBumpTiger (talk) 16:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MrBumpTiger: While it isn't strictly speaking forbidden, we take a very dim view on autobiographies because, like most other conflict-of-interest editing, it's next to impossible to remain neutral about oneself. Indeed, the reviewers note it sounds promotional. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MrBumpTiger: I will also have a look at your sources. Refer to my /Decode subpage (linked in my signature as "critiques"):
Does this help on the sourcing front? —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 16:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is not absolutely forbidden for people to write about themselves, but it is highly discouraged, please see the autobiography policy. For those who wish to attempt it despite this guidance, it is the proper procedure to submit a draft. However, our experience is that very, very few people are able to set aside what they know about themselves and summarize what independent reliable sources say about them with a neutral point of view. People naturally write favorably about themselves. We want to know what others say about you, not what you say about yourself. I personally have never seen someone successfully write about themselves here, though I'm sure it's happened- it's very rare. Are you one of the few people who can succeed at it? Maybe, but the odds are against it. 331dot (talk) 16:27, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

23:04, 5 November 2024 review of submission by Clioos

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help Clioos (talk) 23:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You don't specify the help you are seeking, but the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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