Wikipedia talk:Argentina-related regional notice board/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Translations

I just created a stub for our national flower, the ceibo (actually that's a redirect to Erythrina crista-galli). I took most of it from the Spanish Wikipedia (es:Ceibo). On doing this, and after translating several National parks of Argentina articles, I realized that we need translators (or at least helpful bilingual people) with a background on botany, zoology, ecology and similar. Otherwise we're missing very good descriptive content. --Pablo D. Flores 12:35, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Problem is, there are very few of us actually working in Argentine related articles, not to mention specialist. Besides you and me, there are a couple more with isolated contributions (User:Jfa, User:Maberk, User:Qsebas) or focused around football ( User:Elpincha, User:Sebastiankessel), or not into Argentine topics at all (User:Luis María Benítez). Perhaps it would be wiser to ask for help at some spanish-language-related place? Try perhaps Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin America countries.

BTW, good work with the National Parks. Texts are not so complete, but give a good idea about the topic, and connects to other information sources for those interested in knowing more. -Mariano 14:50, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Hoaxer is back

Known Argentine vandal author of VFD:Rana lechuza, VDF:Blue tiger, VFD:Vandera, VFD:Pumpkin spoof, VFD:Gauchos Pesados, VFD:Glamorous cumbia and God knows what else, brought as a new artice: Eduardito De La Puentes. Please, do not move this page to Eduardo de la Puente if you would like to fix it in order match the journalist, but rather create a new article so this can be deleted and the hoax is not kept in the history. Thank you very much, Mariano 08:29, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Nomination for adminship

People, I propose we nominate Mariano for adminship. He has the experience and the required # of edits to be an admin, besides, it will come useful for all the edits he's doing. See here Administrators.

If we get some kind of agreement in this page, I'll propose the nomination on Requests for adminship.

--Sebastian Kessel 16:49, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Wow, let's first ask Mariano if he wants to be an Admin! :o)

I've been reading a bit about what does it mean to be an Admin. Basically its just an user with the ability of deleting articles and uploaded files, protecting and unprotecting pages and blocking and unblocking IP addresses(FAQs); that is: Fighting Vandalism. It's true that I've been prosecuting a few vandals lately, but thanks god (cross fingers, touch left one) we don't have any serious vandal on Argentine articles.

What I want mean is that I'm not sure we actually need and Argentine Admin. But if you decide we need one, I would be of course honoured to go for it. Sebas, thanks for your vote of trust. -Mariano 08:12, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Let's hope you don't need to use your powers very often. :) --Sebastian Kessel 15:14, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

We don't need an admin, but it's always good to know that a capable person, someone you can trust, is there to set things straight in case anything goes wrong. I support. --Pablo D. Flores 16:00, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Pablo's message was enough for me :). He is nominated in Requests for adminship, if you wish, please show support. --Sebastian Kessel 16:06, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

New Categories

I've created two new categories:

[[Category:Boca Juniors footballers]] and [[Category:Footballers in Argentina by club]]

I've mimicked the Spanish hierarchy for this (see [[Category:Footballers in Spain by club]]), and even when we do have [[Category:Argentine footballers]], the former one should group them by club, whereas the latter just shows that they are from Argentina.

People willing to help categorize all football players by their club is more than welcome.

You can avoid the nowiki tags and insert category names by prefixing an extra : to the name: Category:Footballers in Argentina by club. The question I have is, with players being sold and bought all the time, will everybody keep track? Or the categories will include players who were in a team but are no more? --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 18:01, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

They should include players who played for the club, regardless of their current status. At least, that is the way the spanish categories are organized and the way I started to categorize the players. For example, Maradona is still in Category:Argentine footballers. It may be too much to handle if we try to keep up with the market. Besides, around 25 players are in a team at one point...

PS: Thanks for the tip. --Sebastian Kessel 18:31, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Glamorous cumbia

Does anybody know why Glamorous cumbia was undeleted? --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 22:12, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Well I checked myself. Shoaler undeleted it, after seeing that the VfD hadn't had much support. He now knows what the problem was. Now the article should be deleted again, but some of the text, IMHO, should be incorporated into another article (Argentine cumbia?). --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 01:32, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Pablo, only an administrator can actually delete an article. It was restored because the voting had no result, and your comment (some of the text, should be incorporated into another article) makes it feel we should do that other article before deleting Glamorous cumbia (what I think would be the best, got any spare hour? :) -Mariano 08:41, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I've just created Argentine cumbia. It needs expansion and checking, but it's a start. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 17:24, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I just noticed that Glamorous cumbia has a German counterpart. Anyone who reads German and who can check what the people over there wrote or translated, and leave a message? --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 10:28, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't seam to be a translation of Glamorous cumbia, but rather an article about Romantic cumbia in Argentina, with a short article-less reference to Glamorous cumbia. Check altavista translation[1]. I thin we could leave a message in English in the Talk Page. -Mariano 10:42, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Admin – Leave of Absence

I want to thank Sebastian for the nomination, and all those who voted took a minute to vote at Requests for adminship . I hope I will fulfil your expectations.

On the other hand, I'm afraid that, starting today, I will take a Leave of Absence on a last-minute all-of-the-sudden imperative "mission to take pictures in order to make them freely available at the Wikipedia" (a.k.a. "vacas"). I don't know if I will be able to get my hands on a computer, but I might be only for an hour or so. I'll be back next wednesday (7th) or thursday.

Take care, Mariano 06:38, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Well, it seams I'm going nowhere. A piece of advice, if you are planning on going to Bulgaria, check wether you need a Visa or not... - Mariano 18:28, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Admin

"contact administrator Mariano for assistance."... It looks like it went to his head already. :)

jajaja, tipico argentino, eh? :)

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 19:01, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Shut up or I'll blok you! and its Sir Mister Administrator for you. :oP

-Mariano 07:30, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Oh dear, it started... :) --Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 17:30, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Legal System

Hi, everybody, Tcalle has created Argentinian Legal System. It is a prime candidate for VfD unless we really improve it. I tidied up a little bit, but I'm going to need lots of help building it... Maybe we should contact User:Tcalle, to help. He probably has some ideas in mind.

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 17:32, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

I would prefer someone to fix both Law of Argentina and Constitution of Argentina rather than deleting them. I think they are the kind of thing the Wikipedia should have. Models for the constitution are United States Constitution or the Spanish model with different constitutions (Spanish Constitution of 1978), or at least a brief description such as that of Constitution of Slovenia. For the Law system: Law of the United States and Law of Australia. I'm afraid I have neither the time nor the knowledge to do it myself. Pablo? Mariano(t/c) 07:52, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

I've been wanting to get an Argentine constitution article. I'll take a look at it, since the important things are already there. Law of Argentina is much much too broad for me to tackle. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 11:14, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Election and politics articles

I propose we adopt a standard format for articles on elections. We have Argentine presidential election, 2003 and then Elections in Argentina has a number of red links named Argentine elections, YYYY. Now a gazillion articles link to the 2003 elections article, but most do so through {{Politics of Argentina}}, so changing the template will solve the redirect problem.

My idea:

1. Let's keep articles on parties separate from articles on elections, template-wise. The now long dead Intransigent Radical Civic Union, for example, has nothing to do with the 2003 elections. Maybe there should be a template with the major parties of today and historically important parties.
2. Let's name all articles using the same format. I propose Elections in Argentina, YYYY. It avoids the adjective (which everyone gets differently) and keeps the trend of the main article. We can make a bunch of redirects later.
3. Let's actually write the articles on the previous elections. :) At least presidential winners and/or some comment on the political implications.
4. Argentine presidential election, 2003 should be moved and incorporate more info; we have es:Elecciones argentinas (2003) to get data.

--Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 22:25, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I like it. :) --Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 22:30, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Regarding the names of the elections, I checked the election categories of other countries and it seams to be common to add presidential, parliament, regional or other adjectives to the name of the article. Category:Elections in Spain, Category:Elections in Belgium, Category:Elections in New Zealand. Anyhow, there seams to be no standard on this, so we can do either with or without presidential. It could be included, though, since they are somehome more important than the other ones, and then make a redirection from the name without it.

What about the comming elections? Does anyone have any info to create the article before they actually take place? Mariano(t/c) 07:27, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

As for the names, I would go for shortness. If you're looking for info directly (rather than following a link), then you'll probably start by searching without qualifications. Unless you're an Argentine voter, also, you may not remember which kind the election was. I noticed "general elections" articles; I think the adjective is rather superfluous, as long as we specify the scope of the article in the first paragraph.

A standard for content and layout we also need, but that's secondary. I'd be inclined to include summarized results and some comments, and point to the sources directly.

For the coming elections, if we agree on the comments thing above, we may explain it's a legislative election (point to the main article to explain the procedure), comment on the slaughter and mishmash of candidates in Buenos Aires Province, on the fact that Santa Fe won't employ Ley de Lemas, on the "plebiscitary" nature of this elections for Kirchner, etc. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 10:34, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

I stoped worring too much about names some time ago. For the format, either the english or spanish versions are good. I like the spanish version with all the candidates for presindet, and the rest of the elections divided by province. Perhaps we could add the Second place and vote counts for Governors (if data available). -Mariano(t/c) 11:16, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

I would not put "Presidential", since they sometimes also include Senadores and Diputados, and would mislead people. As far as how to divide them, the nationwide elections (President, referendums, etc...) should have a total and a breakdown by province (if we find one) the rest should have a main page explaining the process and a breakdown by province as well. --Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 15:54, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

About the coming elections, I started a page on the spanish wikipedia es:Elecciones argentinas (2005), but I basically let it die, because nobody helped me, and because I personally decided not to vote anymore, so I lost interest. If anyone wishes to translate it and expand it (because is quite limited), go ahead. Jfa X <<afJ>> 17:32, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

South Shetland Islands

please go to the talk page, there is a big discussion about to start. English wikipedia says that they discovery was in 1819 but i have govenment web pages (.gov domains) that talks about argentinian fishing permissions in 1818 User:Argentino 21:43, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Football Player Infobox

Hey, guys I'm going to Football Database [2] and getting stats on all Argentine Football players. I already did A-B (going alphabetically) and added the infobox to those players who I have stats for. Once I finish with the ones this site has stats for, I'll do some research and finish the rest. Help is appreciated. :)

PS: If you continue, please do it alphabetically and let us know where you finished so we can do it in an organized way.

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 18:25, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Great source of Info! careful, if statistics show 0 – 0, it might be actually No Data. About the Template, sometimes it gets kinda wide (Guillermo Barros Schelotto), and there is one question: For 3 seasons in one club, should be add the total matches and goals and put it in one line or have each season separately? -Mariano(t/c) 07:18, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

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Is it really redundant to have a table of goals per season?

The current scheme has only goals per team, so if the player stays 3 seasons in one team we know how many matches and goals he had in those 3 years, but not for the season specifically.

Options are:

1. Keep both (table, and infobox)
2. Put the data in the info-box season by season
3. loose the data and have lees information.

Mariano(t/c) 15:54, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Is it ok if I go with 3? It is really that relevant? I would cite a particular outstanding season if the player has one (like Palermo scoring 20 times in 19 games) but asides from that, seems like a "waste of good bytes"? :)

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 15:59, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Argentina?

Guys, this page is evolving from a "Notice Board" to a project. Shouldn't we move some of the content to Wikipedia:WikiProject Latin America countries, or create a Wikipedia:Wikiproject Argentina?

Just an idea.

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 18:12, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I would go for WikiProject Argentina. I feel, however, that for this to make sense it is necessary that there are at least two kinds of users, 1) those who can contribute from time to time or just appreciate having articles and news on Argentina, and 2) those who do and want to contribute to make articles at a good rate, with research and sources and all. Group 1 will just take a look at the notice board, Group 2 will also join the WikiProject. We could do this already, but if there are not enough people in both groups, splitting the page seems unnecessary.

Of course when I speak of groups I don't mean a clear split, or membership or anything of the kind. The idea is that the board should start to function like a board – attracting visitors actively looking for news and articles on Argentina. Once this is done, the project will be a natural step forward. The sad reality being that at present we're just cuatro gatos (give or take), setting up a project sounds prematurish. I'm willing to be convinced otherwise, though. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 21:52, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree with Pablo, we are really four crazy cats, and sometimes the RNB seams too big for us. A Wikiproject demands much more work and attention, which I prefer to dedicate to the Wikipedia itself. Hope some day we get more steady contributors to need one! -Mariano(t/c) 07:16, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Good point, I haven't been the best contributor lately... Maybe we'll get some more guys to help out. --Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 15:59, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, if you don't mind me stepping in, I could be the fifth cat. I know, I'm not Argentinian, but the fact that I lived for quite a few years in Mendoza and my love for the country can make for the difference, I hope. I fully support the idea of an Argentinian Wikiproject. Hugs! Shauri Yes babe? 23:49, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I have nothing against the move, as long as it really matters. A WikiProject implies work, guidelines and policies, and advertising: looking for contributors and trying to attract the occasional editor who retouches things here and there or suggests something. There should be more coordination with the Spanish Wikipedia, too. Shauri, welcome aboard. You can never have too many wikiholics in a project. :) --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 01:39, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

support project. poco a poco things will be filled. and stuff will be more structured. if one day we all leave the people that follow us will have a better idea of what was decided and why so. a NB can not fullfill this. i don't think it needs much more attention. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 12:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Placebox

Now that the Placebox thing is more or less settled, maybe we should create the WikiProject Argentina and also Wikipedia:Placebox or something like that. The development of the box has been a bit messy... I wrote some instructions at Template talk:Placebox-begin. Let's put everything together. How do you exactly start a WikiProject? --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 15:56, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

I think you just click on the redlink and start editing. :) --Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 16:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

YAY! I did it!!! Just click here WikiProject Argentina. --Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 16:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Patentes

I just created Argentine License Plates. Please copyedit and improve since I wrote it in 20 minutes before leaving the office. I plan to add some pictures tomorrow. :)

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 00:04, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

People from...

Hi friends, I encourage you to check the biographies of Argentine people and add them the category "People from... " (e.g.: People from Buenos Aires, Rosario, etc.). I think it would be nice :-).

Mxcatania

To Do

Shouldn't we move the To Do to the wikiproject?

--Sebastian Kessel ^Talk 21:59, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I've been meaning to do that, so I've just done it. I believe we should also reformat it: no columns but comma-separated lists, and articles divided in categories of the kind "people", "places", "institutions", "events", "others". --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 17:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Check Spanish

Hi,... couldn't really think of anywhere else to find people who speak Spanish, so I guess this is it. I was wondering if anyone could help me check the spelling and grammar of File:Regiones de China.PNG? If you find any errors, please contact me. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! -- ran (talk) 04:11, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

adjective vs noun

from what I have seen there is a move from adjective to nouns when referring to countries. (A german newspaper is not necessarily from Germany, can be from BsAs (Argentinisches Tageblatt), therefore Category:Something of Fooland is more clear) The following vote is about such an issue: Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2005 November 10#Category:French naval ships and sub-categories Tobias Conradi (Talk) 21:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Less so in cultural matters. If it pertains to the country as such, yes, usually nouns are preferred. Thus, probably "Government of Argentina" but "Argentine novelists". -- Jmabel | Talk 02:17, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Democratic Republican of Congo novelists? FYROManian novelist? If it where only for Argentina adjective could be used everywhere. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 18:52, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Pictures at presidencia.gov.ar

Please check this: de:Benutzer:ALE!/Bilder Presidencia Argentina. It's a user page. It has a copy of an email exchange where the webmaster of http://www.presidencia.gov.ar says that all the materials published there are for public use. And they have a lot of pictures (though uncategorized). I've uploaded a couple of them to Commons following an example I found, under the general GNU license. See for example Felisa Miceli. Should we ransack presidencia.gov.ar? I'm not very satisfied with the email; maybe we should try to write in representation of the WikiProject as a whole... --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 15:01, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I think a second email would be worth sending. The only problem would be if this GNU enthusiastic is giving us a permission that he is not authorized to give. Best would be to have an official answer, and create a corresponding template for such pictures. Mariano(t/c) 13:57, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Just a couple of things...

Hi guys! I want to start thanking everyone for correcting my spelling/distraction mistakes. Then, I wanted to bring up a couple of unimportant things:

• Templates: I've seen people changes a valid wlink for a template. For instance (no offense intended) [[Argentina national football team|Argentina]] with {{nft|Argentina}}. Templates facilitate the writing of articles, but should only be considered preferable when they are ought to change (for instance, {{In Wikipedia}}, or some infobox where some data might be added). Templates have to be translated whenever a page is loaded, so it generates extra work to the servers. In short: used them as you please, but there's no need to change perfectly valid code favouring templates. In fact, {{test}} warnings to anon users should be used as {{subst:test}}, that replaces the template tag for the resulting text.

• Vandalism:
  • When editing, specially when modifying a number of pages rather mechanically, try to take the time to check for previous vandalism (I know its a lot of work, I don't do it always).
  • When revising your watchlist, not only check the last edit to the page, but the ones before until the time of your last loging (I think you all already do that).
  • If you detect some vandalism from an anon IP or a registered user, after cleaning it, check its recent contributions for vandalism in ages that are not checked so often.

• Wlinks: Avoid adding underscores to the names of the articles and images ([[Tango_(music)|tango]] or [[image:Salta_04_181.jpg|right|thumb|The inside of Salta's main cathedral]]

Well, this is of course my opinion about this topics, but I thought it would be constructive to share it with you. Comments and other ideas are more than welcome. Mariano(t/c) 13:54, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Alejo Parella & Almanso

I've never heard of neither Alejo Parella nor band Almanso. I suspect some kind of vanity, so I wanted to ask you if you even heard of them. Otherwise, I would mark them as {{afd}}. Mariano(t/c) 12:01, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Never heard of them either. The suspicious thing is that the articles have a lot more information than the almanso website itself. I've touched them up a bit; I suggest Googling around a bit and afd if you don't find anything of worth. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 13:22, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Seams like an unimportant band, but they had a song on a tribute CD to New Order that seams to be real [3]. I would delete it for vanity, but can't say it's absolutely not notorious. Community: A NewOrderOnline Tribute went on AfD and made it through. Mariano(t/c) 10:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

• It's mostly indie, but they did 3 covers for 3 various albums as well as their own, but Alejo is currently working on Glasnost, I suggest you check the link to the video of False at the end of the page, it's a pretty good song. Plus, it's not out of vanity since I'm the one who put it there, and I'm canadian. Alcoholemia was also released on Les artistes de la communauté on the label Retroforward. Spotnick 19:58, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Location

There's a very interesting red-dot location system in use in Wikipedia, of which I gain knowledge only today. You can see how to implement it at the {{Infobox protected area}} template, as it can be seen used in the Arches National Park article. To use it, we should first create a Argentina locator blanck map (as there is a File:US Locator Blank.svg). The question that arises is: should we have one single map of the entire country, or two or more zoomed maps. Together with the hiddenStructure CSS class, we could update the {{placebox-map}} and the {{placebox-begin}}. Mariano(t/c) 11:38, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

i dont like using CSS for hiding. Templates allow for if-else structures, I found it at Template:Language. I.e. we could use a template:Infobox Place instead of the splitted system. there was a fight about if-else and subtemplates (WP:AUM) but it turned out they are not a big problem for the servers and we can use them. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 02:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Example: Here is are two examples of the location for Ushuaia.

Location of Ushuaia

I created the File:Argentina - Situation map - Tierra del Fuego.png, File:Argentina - Situation map - Santa Cruz.png, File:Argentina - Situation map - Pampa y NorPatagonia.png and File:Argentina - Situation map - Noroeste.png, File:Argentina - Situation map - Mesopotamia y Santa Fe.png, File:Argentina - Situation map - Chubut.png and File:Argentina - Situation map - Buenos Aires.png, which I believe cover all the territory. This could be added to the existing template in place of the image (no need to change the template), or in a new template, 'city with locationg dot map'. Comments? Mariano(t/c) 14:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Theese are exellent news. If anyone wants I can upload the CIA map without words if to have a whole-argentina location map, but i think splitted maps are the best. I'm going to start locating. bye. Argentino (Talk cont.) 14:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

PS: I noticed that the red dot's coordinates for a place are 5 pixels high and wide smaller than in the less specific circle's coordinate for the same place ( I mean, if Cordoba is in the X=10 and y=23 with the dot, it will be in x=15 and y=27 with the circle)Argentino (Talk cont.) 14:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

That's because you set the upper left spot of the red point, whereas with the target you set the exact location of the desired point. Mariano(t/c) 07:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, so I created the {{Placebox-location}} template, but before we start using it we have to settle a couple of things:

1. The red dot is kinda big, do we wont a smaller one? a different one (shape, colour)?
2. Are we going to use named parameters? Currently it does, parameters base, x and y, but the other templates of the Placebox familly don't.
3. Is the name OK?
4. Everyone likes it?

Later maps (perhaps more detailed) can be added later, as far as they all have 251px of width, or with {{Superimpose}} outside the placebox infobox. Mariano(t/c) 10:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Ideas for pointers: – File:Map pointer.gif –

We can also make our own. Mariano(t/c) 11:51, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

All i can say is "i love this". I dont understand very much about templates, but i will do my best, i suppose copying and modifying works?(I did it with all the monobook.js stuff and worked so...). My answers are: 2,3 y 4 : i guess yes. 1: I think shape and colour are OK, but i dont think it is too big (though i dont mind if you change it. -- Argentino 20:02, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Vacations

Just getting here to let you know that I'm taking a Wikivacation starting Monday. I'm taking a couple of weeks off work and off home to visit sunny Mendoza. I'll be back on Friday (January 20). I may check things around here if I can't cope with withdrawal. :) --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 03:14, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

If you feel your hands shaking, cold swet and convultions, its just a Wiki-deficiency attack. Enjoy, and take a lot of pictures! Mariano(t/c) 08:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm going home!!

I'm going to Argentina next week, and I'll stay for 3 weeks. I'm going to be mostly in Buenos Aires, so if someone is in town, we can gather to discuss wikipedian issues. Any suggestions about pictures? What kind of pictures are we missing from Buenos Aires? I'll try to keep up-date with my watchlist. Mariano(t/c) 09:41, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

• Museo Xul Solar
• Our article describes people sitting out on the sidewalk in Villa Urquiza in the summer; a photo to match that remark would be nice.
• La Esquina Homero Manzi in Boedo
• Maybe one of the synagogues in Villa Crespo or some other sign of Jewish life there?

Jmabel | Talk 01:59, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

• subte stations? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 02:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions! About Homero Manzi, were is it exactly (streets)? Mariano(t/c) 07:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

• San Juan and Boedo – Jmabel | Talk 05:38, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

But of course, San Juan and Boedo Antiguo. I'll try to catch the 160 as soon as I have some time free. (too busy eating right now...) Mariano(t/c) 16:58, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Not in Argentina anymore. Back to work. Mariano(t/c) 14:57, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Dirty War

Given the date, I started to work on this complex topic and was lost in categories. Every article on the Dirty War, the Proceso and their participants has a bunch of these, which I think should point to one Category:Dirty War and sister categories/subcategories. I believe we should draw a nice category tree where we can make our Videlas, Galtieris and Astizes fit without so much wordiness. Also, the general categories of Category:Criminals don't include many suitable subcats. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 14:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I like the idea of a category. Probably Category:Dirty War will be good enough for the time being. No need for Category:Dirty War victims or Category:Dirty War criminals (at least not yet). Mariano(t/c) 14:55, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Past discussion in Talk:Dirty War and a recent comment mention that "dirty war" is a common term in other places and that "our" article should be called Dirty War (Argentina). Now I'm all for preemptive disambiguation, but I haven't seen anything about the Dirty Wars of other LA countries. Is it presumptuous to guess that most people who look for "Dirty War" are in fact looking for the Argentine one? I'm bringing this up because the objection has been made and, if we have to move all links from one title to the other (tiring!), I don't want to have to do the same with the category too.

I'm cross-posting this to Talk:Dirty War. Please reply there. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 14:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

User WikiProject Argentina template

(brought from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Argentina#User WikiProject Argentina template)

I'm writing you regarding the {{User WikiProject Argentina}} template, that many of us contributors use in our user pages. I believe it to have slowly degradated to something that doesn't represent the common ideo of the users that participate of this project. The last version by Darklegions (talk · contribs) reads:

• "The motto of the WPAR is Firmiter Unum Pro Patria, which translates to, "Firmly united for the Motherland". This motto reflects the desire to dramatically improve the quality and standards of Argentina-related articles on Wikipedia, and is a reference to the Argentine National Defense School."

I have no idea what does the National Defense School, or the Military of Argentina, have to do with the contributions to the Argentine related articles. It was pointed out that {{User uk wikipedian}} has a similar format, but I couldn't care less about it.

The purpose of this project is to contribute to Argentine related in general, and I see any connection with military out of place. You don't even need to be Argentine to participate, as contributor AntonioMartin (talk · contribs), so nationalist reference such as "Firmly united for the Motherland" seams to me out of place. I suggest we re.write the template to a more general profile; I wouln't use it as it is right now, because I don't feel represented by it. Mariano(t/c) 11:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I don't remember being asked about, or voting for, or even being notified that we had a motto. Right now the template reads like a veritable fascist badge. I'd say we can leave mottos out (rather than wasting time in mottos, why not spend it in making articles?), and concentrate on the simple fact that we want Argentina-related articles to improve, stop. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 16:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, one place is enough for answers =). --OneEuropeanHeart 18:37, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

América, Buenos Aires

Could someone check this, please? I've been transferring cities and towns in Buenos Aires to Category:Cities in Buenos Aires Province and tagging them with info from the Ministry of Interior (using {{ar-mi-muni}}). Now I don't doubt that this place exists, but the MoE says that the capital and only city in the Rivadavia Partido is Rivadavia itself, population 15,452. What exactly is América? --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 12:35, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Check [4]: Información de Contacto: (6237) AMERICA. I don't know what they mean with "Denominación de Categoría › ÚNICA", but it's not the only town in the partido. Mariano(t/c) 13:38, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... There must be a problem somewhere. "Denominación de categoría" is just what the administrative division is called; in Buenos Aires there is just one (all partidos are in the same category), but for example in Santa Fe there are "municipalidades de primera categoría" (pop > 200,000), "municipalidades de segunda categoría" (pop > 10,000) y "comunas". If you go down the page and look for the details on the partido, it gives a list of municipalities, and there's only one (Rivadavia itself). I think maybe the list is not complete or doesn't work well with Buenos Aires. <span class="maniac">There are several other "cities" that I haven't been able to find (for example, Cariló) and places that I think should be called suburbs (e. g. City Bell). My idea is to get the official information of the MoE on every city article, and coordinates too (http://www.maplandia.com/ has geodata on many places, even surprisingly small towns).</span> --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 15:33, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible that the name of the municipality doesn't match that of the city? Regarding the second topic,Sometimes cities are under the municipio of another city. I think this is the case with Cariló, that is actually under Pinamar (not sure though). Mariano(t/c) 06:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Articles

Hi guys! I just wanted to tell you all that I'm glad we are having so many new 'not-just-another-lame-stub' articles lately. There are still a lot of topics to cover, specially in History and Geography. I know we already have a ToDo page, but it would be good to have a list of articles roughly ordered by priority, for these two separate topics. I'm afraid I have no atlas with me at the Cul d'mond, so I kindly ask you to take the time to gather that information.

At the same time, you might have read the message about the Wikipedia version 1.0. It will be hard to select the good articles, and those necessary, but we should do that some time soon. I know some of our best contributors are currently either on vacation or changing diapers, so take it easy, we can do it slowly. Mariano(t/c) 10:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

How I could create a argentine military stub signal ? . I created a few new articles (A-4AR,Escuadron Fenix,1984 Argentina and Chile Peace and Friendship Treaty ) that are already non stub, but It would be great if I could work in several simultaneuosly as I have time available Jor70 17:31, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jorge! If you think there are enough military related Argentine articles to make a new template, take a look at Template:Argentina-stub to create Template:Argentina-mil-stub following the first one, then include in it the new Category:Argentina military stubs, and the already existing Category:Military stubs. Just bear in mind that there are a lot of users who take their time to delete stub categories that don't have enough articles, so I would recommend you to have at least 30 or 40. BTW: Don't forget that in English, unlike in Spanish, adjectives such as Argentine, Patagonia, Maradonian, etc., are always capitalized. Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 05:46, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Doubt

Anyone ever heard of this: *.gay ??? Is it another hoax? Mariano(t/c) 11:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Never. --Argentino 17:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

New template

Well, I'm writing this but don't know if I should, maybe this is the wrong place. Anyway. I created the Template:Superimpose-text, wich allows to write over an image, and may be used for usepages, like a way to make background images, dunno, thanks for reading this and excuse me if i'm wasting your time. {{ Template: Superimpose-text |x=0 |y=0 |text=This is an example|Image name=Flag of Argentina.svg |pixel width=250 |caption=the example}}

--Argentino (talk/cont.) 02:31, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks good enough, though I'm kinda disappointed with the superimposed thingy in different browsers. Just one little idea: search for a simillar already existing template, and if not found, pulicite yours say at template Superimose. Mariano(t/c) 11:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Argentina Squad 2006 World Cup

As suggested by Mxcatania, I will take care of the template Template:Argentina Squad 2006 World Cup. Gadig 20:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

People by origin

Can we just agree to a guideline on "labeling people by origin"? Am I the only one to resent the "Croatian encroachment" we had on Maradona and Luca Prodan? The basis for both claims was speculative; even if proven true, they'd had no relevance because the careers of both men had nothing to do, not even indirectly, to anything Croatian. And I don't want to enter another round of inconveniencing Max, but hey, let's keep the proportions here, and not let some pet ideas of ours run unchecked (mine are included of course, just tell me if and when). elpincha 05:15, 20 May 2006 (UTC) (moved from WP:ARNB by Mariano(t/c) 08:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC))

I personally believe that such 'origins' should be labeled only when the partens are from that country, or at least when the person closelly identifies with that people (same counts for Jews). Mariano(t/c) 08:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed this. I think it is only correct to categorise articles by notable facts. Someone's descent is often not a notable fact. I prefer to only include people if they are a) first generation immigrants, b) closely identified by themselves or society as that (any footballer nicknamed El Vasco for instance) or c) where the fact is important to society at large (e.g. where people from unusual backgrounds have achieved high office or status, or represent a notable community even if they themselves don't care – see unsourced comments on Jorge Capitanich). As a fan of categorising, I have probably strayed too far with the Basque category myself, but these are the criteria I'll try and stick to in future. Martín (saying/doing) 23:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

This massive expansion of Category:Argentine people by ethnic or national origin is now getting troublesome. There are rarely references to the origin given, and there is confusion over the naming conventions. Only one or two editors are making all the changes, and I doubt that they are so knowledgeable about such a wide range of people – their edits are not restricted to Argentina by any means – and my hunch is that they are going by surnames, which is dangerous.

Argentina is a country whose modern history is dominated by immigration. In the English category hierarchy, any such categories are deleted fairly quickly as being irrelevant, POV and hard to source. I have explained above that I think they are relevant in an Argentine context given that many people maintain links and culture and identity from their ancestors. It is a notable fact about a politician, in my view, to be of close Arab ancestry, or of Chilean, given the countries' history. But even that use is subjective and POV on my part, so I am starting to reconsider whether these cats are of use. Martín (saying/doing) 09:05, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Argentine related articles

Is already a list of ALL of those articles, grouped by theme ? Jor70 16:26, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Erm, Category:Argentina ? To my understanding, the use of such lists are discouraged in the Wikipedia. Mariano(t/c) 07:27, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Featured picture

Hmmm, you all know much I love publicizing myself, so: Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Cuevasdelasmanos Mariano(t/c) 11:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Geography of argentina

Guys, there's an über-cool article of Argentine Geography in german at de:Geographie Argentiniens (me babeo). We need somethings like that for the slim English article Geography of Argentina. Of course, machine translation ain't good enough, but it can help a bit translating it... Meine German sucks, über time. Mariano(t/c) 07:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

We can work on this automatic translation from Babelfish (not presentable, but quite understandable). —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 10:49, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

• request for help: Villa Martínez de Hoz add partido. check with Martínez, Buenos Aires abrazos Tobias Conradi (Talk) 18:21, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
  • @Marianno. thx for your help. I now added Martínez, Buenos Aires, hope this is right. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 19:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Geography II: Partidos, Departaments and cities

I've been meaning to write about this for a while, and this seems a good time to do it... I think many of the "XYZ Partido" articles, especially the ones not yet written, should be merged with the articles about the corresponding cities. I mean, in most cases, a partido only has one city plus many minor towns, villages and other things not clearly distinguished in official sources. Since a partido is technically a municipality, shouldn't we redirect the partido articles to their head cities' articles when there's only one proper "city" in them? The same would be probably a good idea in the case of many provincial departments, especially those that are not very populous or notable — when you go look for data on the head towns, their official websites speak about the departments as a whole. This is why, in my maniac tagging with placeboxes, in many cases I've chosen to leave the department name unwikilinked. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 00:29, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about this. Big partidos, specially those in Gran Buenos Aires, have a number of important cities or localities inside (Vicente López). Others don't have the same name as its head city (Almirante Brown, La Matanza). Probably Partidos' articles will end up having little more than a list of localities, but I still think its worth keeping them separated from their head city. I would take the Lomas de Zamora Partido and Lomas de Zamora articles as a model, that don't have the same information, including the passage of Villa Fiorito from Lanús to Lomas. Mariano(t/c) 10:36, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

i would prefer to leave them seperate. It's an easy rule and IMO less confusing. Hopefully in the long run all partidos and departments at least have a small article incl. map and basic data. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 13:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Standard naming scheme

Please see the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Regional notice boards#A uniform naming scheme. Zocky | picture popups 00:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC)s

Back and sleepy

Hi guys, just a short one to tell you I'm back at work, were hopefully I will get some sleep... BTW, don't spect much from me for say the following 18 years. See ya. Mariano(t/c) 08:47, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

New proposal

Hi to all,

There's an ongoing poll on Template talk:User WikiProject Argentina about our well-known motto issue. As usual, all members of the WikiProject Argentina are invited to participate.

Cheers, —Aucun effort n'est trop grand 02:52, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Best place to live on Earth?

There's a question at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Best place to live on earth about the best place to live given certain criteria, and I've suggested that Argentina should be considered, although it may not quite fit the criteria. For those who want to participate in a slightly less formal discussion than found elsewhere on Wikipedia, please add to my suggestion.-gadfium 03:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Mr. K

I've semi-protected the article on our fearless leader... I'm not sure it was the best idea, but at least this should leave us some relief from the vandals. I intend to unprotect it soon. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 23:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

DYK

The DYK section featured on the main page is always looking for interesting new and recently expanded stubs from different parts of the world. Please make a suggestion.--Peta 01:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Going home

Guys, I'm soon to become a re-patriat, so I will be busy with the over-the-Atlantic moving-out for the next 2 or 3 weeks. I'll try to connect as much as I can, but that will be probably little. See you around, Mariano(t/c) 14:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Hope to see plenty of you again soon. You've been the mainstay of this. - Jmabel | Talk 21:44, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Argentina

I stepped in to help out with Portal:Argentina in April, but I was never planning to become the principal maintainer. I would like someone else to volunteer to take over running the portal. Please reply at Portal talk:Argentina.-gadfium 02:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Article names

Does anybody know why several articles such Argentine Anticommunist Alliance and National Commission on the Disappearance of Persons have been moved (back) to their Spanish forms? Back then we more or less understood that they should be translated when possible (WP:UE). —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 22:59, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Certainly not for any good reason, although if the proper redirects are in place it should be no big deal. - Jmabel | Talk 08:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Long shot ... ?

Hello, I'm attempting to clean up some messes on WP and have come across one I'm hoping you may be able to help me with. Please see Argentine rock, reference # 40, which currently looks like this

Polimeni, Carlos (2000). Demasiado Artista. Sony Discos. ISBN 0-376-28369-424.

As I understand things, if this item has an ISBN, it is an invalid ISBN because it is too long. My hunch, though, is that Sony Discos produces sound recordings, so this item may not have an ISBN at all. Might you be more clever than me at figuring out what is going on here? I'd like to find either a valid ISBN that goes with this book, or better identifying information so if this is a CD or DVD or something an average reader would be able to locate the source. Thanks for any help you can give. Kind Regards, Keesiewonder 02:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Going on vacation

Dear folks, I'm leaving for Mendoza tonight, so I won't be really available. I'm carrying a lot of storage space with me so I can return with lots of pictures of Mendoza City, San Rafael, Malargüe, the Atuel River and everything in between. See you in two weeks! —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 14:07, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Have fun! Me, I haven't being able to contribute much; I'm back to Argentina and got myself a real job, so I don't have much time left. Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 12:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Yay, good luck! -- ReyBrujo 02:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Just got back this morning. I was this close to propose exchanging work for food and lodging in Malargüe so I could stay for an additional month at the hostel. Hey, I'm useless as a carpenter or a plumber, but I can wash dishes. I'm so relaxed I can't bring myself to check my watchlist. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 17:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Me calente

Y por eso escribo en castilla. En vez de aportar a los articulos, se la pasan agregando categorias que no le interesan a nadie (salvo a los editores) tipo articulos que les falta tal cosa, articulos con relleno de pavita, etc. Y agregan un monton de boxes a las paginas de talk, calificando a los articulos. Las calificaciones son mas POV que un discurso de Hugo Chavez. Por ejemplo, tengo para mi que los articulos sobre Balvanera y Carlos Bilardo son excelentes, y si alguien piensa lo contrario, que aporte. Estoy repodrido y no voy a dar bola a los que contesten, ni aca ni en mi talk page. Felices vacaciones. elpincha 23:25, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

No entiendo tu reclamo, Pinchex. Si, por ejemplo, Balvanera esta calificado como Clase-B, es porque todavia no fue elejido como good article. Si crees que ese, u otro articulo, se merecen esa calificacion, proponelos como Good Articles, y luego subiles la calificacion. Si hay algun articulo que creas que se merece una calificacion distinta a la que tiene, CAMBIALA!. Los articulos cambian, y con ellos tambien su clasificacion.

De cualquier forma, no se porque le das tanto bola a esa calificacion si te parece que no tiene sentido. Caes en la incoherencia de decir que no tienen valor, y luego calentarte alegoricamente como si lo tuvieran.

live and let die. --Mariano(t/c) 12:41, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Taking a break

Muchachos/as, tengo las bolas llenas de ciertos artículos, de ciertas personas y de ciertas tareas que hay que hacer y rehacer todos los días en esta bendita enciclopedia porque nunca terminan de descajetarse. Voy a tomarme un tiempo tan largo como pueda de descanso. Por suerte mi estrés se acaba con lo que acabo de mencionar.

For the non-Spanish-speaking readers, in short: I'm tired. I'm on a break. Don't ask. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 01:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Te entiendo perfectamente. Añoro esas epocas en donde uno se dedicaba a crear y extender articulos. Un abrazo, Pablo. --Mariano(t/c) 12:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Volveré y seré...

Folks, I've just created WP:AR/ROS as a draft sub-project to deal with Rosario, which as you know is one of my favourite topics... This is after an informal proposal I launched at a meeting of the Flickr photographers' group Rosarigasinos. If you're interested, check it out. I'm trying to spread the word; we may or may not be receiving some new project participants.

On another note, I'm leaving for Posadas, Misiones tomorrow (Sunday), so I'll be almost or completely unavailable next week. Have a happy Independence Day. I'll be back. —Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 22:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject:Argentine football

Hi

I believe that we really need to sort something out for Argentine football, the coverage is really recentist, hardly any of the great players from before the 80s have articles. Also people keep adding and removing players from the current squads without using the players in and players out subheadings and adding seemingly made up players. The Argentine Primera is miles behind even League 2 (4th Level) in sunny England in terms of the number of players with articles and the quality of team articles. There has been discussion of forming Wikiproject:Argentine football. If I can get some support here i will try and set it up. If it does happen we can keep track of when squads have been updated, players needing articles, good online source material, Argentine players playing abroad, what needs to be done etc. Let me know if you're interested, Regards, King of the North East 22:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Count on my support. I have been doing a lot of work in Wikipedia:WikiProject Football lately and wondered why Argentine football does not have the same kind of quality coverage English football does. -- Alexf(t/c) 22:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

The project has grown in the past two weeks! See our sister page: Wikipedia:Wikiproject Argentine football/New articles -- Alexf(t/c) 18:47, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

It's a long list

The list has grown long (which is good!).

Shouldn't we be trimming (deleting) article names from the bottom? (oldest) -- Alexf(t/c) 18:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I used to trim down the list to the longest of either 120 articles or a month old articles.

Great you see you and Dnfenner are doing a great job with the Argentine related articles since some of the older contributors like me stopped actively contributing.

BTW, as an adjective, Argentine is the preferred spelling over Argentinian or Argentinean. Take care, Mariano(t/c) 18:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

good to see you back! Alexf^{(Talk/Contribs)} 21:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, not really back; just visiting! ;) Mariano(t/c) 11:31, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Polish minority in Argentina

I've created this page based on Polish sources. Unfortunately I don't read Spanish, but I think this may be relevant. Please add any elinks that you think could be useful to the article :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

An Invitation from the Philippine Wikipedia Community

Hello folks,

The Philippine Wikipedia Community will be holding its 1st Meet-up in Cebu City (the fourth one in the Philippines) on June 23-24, 2008. This coincides with the first Philippine Open Source Summit also to be held in Cebu, and which the Philippine Wikipedia Community is a Implementing Partner in. We invite you to join us in this event. If you are in the IT or IT-enabled services industry, this would be a great opportunity to network with leaders from the 4th best outsourcing city in the world. This is also a good excuse to visit our beautiful beaches :)

If you're interested in joining the Wikipedia meet-up, please join our discussion. To register for the Open Source Summit, please contact CEDF-IT. If you would like some assistance with local accomodations, you may email User:Bentong Isles.

The Philippine Wikipedia Community
WP:PINOY

Article naming

Guys, I started a conversation regarding the naming of the article Re-establishment of British rule on the Falklands (1833), and would like to hear your oppinion on the posibility of renaming it to Surrender of the Falkland Islands of 1833 or something similar. Basically, I believe that the current title suggest the British restored some legitimate ruling, whereas a surrender would mean they had to be [temporarly] left behind by the Argentines against their will.

Commenst are wellcome either there or here. Mariano(t/c) 07:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Latin American cinema task force

A Latin American cinema task force has been proposed at WP:FILMS, which would include the cinema of Argentina. (The Argentine task force would still exist, as a sub-task force.) Interested editors are encouraged to sign up – if there is enough interest, then the task force will be created! Many thanks, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 20:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Julian Obiglio

Not sure where to place such a notification but I created a short article for this guy, after hearing him quoted on an Australian news report. Orderinchaos 08:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

"por ahora no figura en Wikipedia"

[5] --Jor70 (talk) 18:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Photo requests

Hi! I have some photo requests:

• Buenos Aires:
  • Headquarters of Junta de Investigaciones de Accidentes de Aviación Civil – Av. Belgrano 1370 11° piso (C1093AAO) Ciudad Autonoma de Buenos Aires, República Argentina/1370 Belgrano Avenue 11° Floor, Zip Code(C1093AAO) Buenos Aires, República Argentina
  • Headquarters of Administración Nacional de Aviación Civil – Hipólito Yrigoyen 250 Piso 12° Of. 1211 (C1086AAB) Buenos Aires, República Argentina
• Rosario: Headquarters of Sol Líneas Aéreas – Entre Ríos 986, Rosario, Argentina

Thank you, Wikipedia talk:Argentina-related regional notice boardWhisperToMe (talk) 01:01, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Other

The text below is from Wikipedia:Argentina-related regional notice board. Graham87 (talk) 10:23, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

• Could someone who knows Piazzolla's life and work please take a look at this edit in María de Buenos Aires. It's certainly not good English, and it's uncited. If it's factually correct, it should be copy edited; if not it should be reverted. I have no idea which. I figure someone here can help. - Jmabel | Talk 06:41, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

• Categories and tags:Category:Wikipedians in Argentina, Category:Wikipedians from Argentina, Template:User Argentina, Template:User expat in Argentina & Template:User Argentina expat mostly by Sebastian Kessel ^Talk

• I really do not believe that "José Domingo Molina Gómez" is a real historical character, yet he is supposed to be a former Argentine president, not only here, but in Spanish, French and Italian wikipedia as well. Thank YouKeNNy (talk) 18:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Stub types

New stub templates have been created for each of Argentina's provinces. Feel free to tag articles with them, and once each is applied to 60 articles, WikiProject Stub sorting will create a category for it. Cheers, Her Pegship (tis herself) 14:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

A-Class review for Rivadavia class battleship now open

The A-Class review for Rivadavia class battleship is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! —Ed (talk • majestic titan) 00:31, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Naming convention

There is a discussion at Talk:Córdoba Province (Argentina)#Requested move relevant to the naming of it and several other provinces, and also to the naming of corresponding members of Category:Provinces of Argentina and to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names)#Argentina. Input from this WikiProject is appropriate and would be welcome. Andrewa (talk) 01:51, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

President Kirchner's speech at UN

I've already created a draft page on 2014 Cristina Fernández de Kirchner's speech at UN. Do we need such a separate article? By the way, I need your comments and assistance to improve this article. Mhhossein (talk) 06:52, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

I am looking for a Spanish speaking narrow gauge railway enthusiast

Camber Railway, 1915–1922. The loco has 'Falkland Island Express' handwritten on the tank. The wooden wagon bodies carry removeable seats at each end for workmen and 1st class, 2nd class, 3rd class and 'Smoker' legends

I am looking for a Spanish speaking narrow gauge railway enthusiast who could help on expanding the article on the Camber Railway on the Falkland Islands according to the following references:

• Ferrocarril Camber (Spanish)
• Historias poco conocidas: Un ferrocarril en las Malvinas (Spanish) --NearEMPTiness (talk) 19:47, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Article that does not suit Wikipedia's standards of neutrality

Hello! I am here because I am worried about an article that is not neutral in Wikipedia. I'm talking about de biography of Jorge Horacio Brito. I was following the case and there are a couple of users that is using Wikipedia to link him to relevant corruption cases, but only based on a couple of media article. There was no judicial decision to establish if Brito is guilty or not yet, so this allegations are not "serious" information yet, apart from the article is written in a very biased and misleading way that does no respect the neutrality that Wikipedia has. I saw that some users tried to neutralize the article but were accused of sockpuppeting and hence their chances were removed. I noticed that there is a strong interest of those users in having those corruption allegations stated in Wikipedia despite there are only accusations, but nothing is clear yet. I "neutralized" the article and erased all the accusations and the changes were undone in a couple of minutes. This is the actual version of the article: Jorge Horacio Brito This is my "netrualized" version, now reverted: Special:PermanentLink/682809052 This situation in my opinion damages Brito's reputation wihtout any reason. I want to ask you if you can help me to support the neutral version of the article. If many of us reject the biased version of the article we could keep Wikipedia "clean" of this kind of misleading content. I really want to thank you for your help. I won't undo the changes until I know that other users will support me because I don't want to start an edit war. There are many articles that have the same issue, like the biography of José Luis Manzano. Many thanks! --ClufoWatson (talk) 13:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

• This meatpuppet is now blocked.
   — Berean Hunter (talk) 00:31, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Invitarion to edit

Hi, I invite you to edit and expand this article United States involvement in regime change in Latin America that would certainly benefit from more editors. Greetings. --Dereck Camacho (talk) 05:29, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

Request for help

I'm working on Goat tower and I have heard there is another in Argentina at Fínca el Rocio, Villa Belgrano, Córdoba, Argentine. From http://armchairtravelogue.blogspot.com/2015/06/goat-towers-around-world.html : "This is second Goat Tower (after the Ekeby tower, Norway) to be modelled after the Fairview tower, Paarl, South Africa. Owner of Fínca el Rocio had requested Fairview for the designs of Goat Tower and they sent him the designs they had prepared for Ekeby. The tower was completed in October 2010. Initially the goats didn't use the tower and had to pushed to walk up. The goats were however lured up by keeping their food (corn) at higher level. In words of the owner; "... only the hungriest walk up in the beginning, but now they happily go up and down!" (Source Fairview's Blog)" Can anyone find a mention of this goat tower? I'd love to include mention of it in the article, but I'm not finding it anywhere. Thanks! --valereee (talk) 23:44, 30 December 2019 (UTC)