Wikipedia talk:Blank maps/Archive 1
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Montenegro
All of the modern maps need to be updated with the inclusion of Montenegro. ekrub-ntyh talk 23:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ive started changing them, the vardion blank world maps v1-5 are done --Astrokey44 06:45, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think they should be changed yet. The blank maps are used mostly to show data, and since Montenegro is so new, almost all available data is about Serbia and Montenegro, not Serbia or Montenegro individually. SCHZMO ✍ 18:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- They should still be changed. It's far easier to merge SiM again if need be than to divide them correctly. —Nightstallion (?) 13:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- Excellent, nice work Astrokey. ekrub-ntyh talk 22:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- They should still be changed. It's far easier to merge SiM again if need be than to divide them correctly. —Nightstallion (?) 13:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think they should be changed yet. The blank maps are used mostly to show data, and since Montenegro is so new, almost all available data is about Serbia and Montenegro, not Serbia or Montenegro individually. SCHZMO ✍ 18:54, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
1985 Outline Map VS 'Cold War' Map
I've noticed that the map in the 'Cold War' article does not align with the blank map of 1985. (If one aligns the Mexican-American borders of either map together, the borders of Eurasia, Africa, Oceania are off by one pixel to the left.) If this could be corrected, I would appreciate it as it would make comparison between Wikipedia maps simpler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.224.228 (talk • contribs)
- thats observant of you, im assuming you meant Image:Cold War Map 1980.png as there are 2 world maps in that article. i think its fixed now --Astrokey44 06:30, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Suggestions for a map
I would like to create a distribution map for the Cane Toad article, which includes its native and introduced ranges. I tried the blank world map (with no borders) on this page, however it does not include most of the Pacific islands, which are very important as they are mostly where the Cane Toad has been introduced. Does anyone have a suggestion for a map which would be suitable for this article? Thanks. --liquidGhoul 12:10, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Image:BlankMap-World-v4.png uses larger dots to represent countries, also for the pacific there is Image:Oceania-map.JPG showing lots of islands --Astrokey44 12:19, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it is better, but it still doesn't include Hawaii, which is an important one. The Oceania map wouldn't work, as I need to colour it in, and it needs to include South America (its native range). Thanks --liquidGhoul 12:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- You could copy paste hawaii's location from one of the maps that does include it - the US locator map on United States I think --Astrokey44 15:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, it is better, but it still doesn't include Hawaii, which is an important one. The Oceania map wouldn't work, as I need to colour it in, and it needs to include South America (its native range). Thanks --liquidGhoul 12:29, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- So is Image:Bufo_marinus_distribution.png good enough or do you still need something? ¦ Reisio 03:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Map requests
I've got two problems:
a.) I'd require a map similar to Image:BlankMap-World-v4.png, but having dots for all dependencies (i.e. all territories with ISO 3166-1 codes)... Anyone up to it?
b.) How will we go about updating all maps of the world and Europe with Montenegro (and soon, Kosovo)? I wouldn't know how to add the Montenegrin (and Kosovar) borders by hand correctly into existing maps... And recolouring all maps from a few updated blank maps would be a *lot* of work... Ideas?
—Nightstallion (?) 14:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- For a) the WWI and WWII maps could be used as a starting point since they have alot of detail on small islands. b) Its easy to copy paste an updated section onto a old map - you wouldnt have to recolour them all! I have done similar things to this before --Astrokey44 15:30, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- a) They only include the sovereign ones, I'm afraid. Dependencies are usually *very* small. b) Mh. I hope you're right, 'cause else, we've got a lot of work coming towards us after 13 July... ;) —Nightstallion (?) 18:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- oh I thought it did have a few dependencies - this one?. (they are often just one tiny pixel, User:Joaopais went to alot of trouble) The montinegro thing sounds like a good idea for some sort of wikiproject --Astrokey44 18:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- a) They only include the sovereign ones, I'm afraid. Dependencies are usually *very* small. b) Mh. I hope you're right, 'cause else, we've got a lot of work coming towards us after 13 July... ;) —Nightstallion (?) 18:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- Is this taken care of? ¦ Reisio 03:59, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think so... —Nightstallion (?) 11:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, if you still need the map I'll try and do it later tonight...assuming I understand the request. :) ¦ Reisio 23:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Basically, take a look at User:Nightstallion/dependencies and add little dots for all the dependencies on the list. It's gonna be difficult in the Caribbean, though, as there are many countries and little room... —Nightstallion (?) 13:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- How about this? - Image:BlankMap-World-v6.png i think i got all the ones listed, used one dot for the US minor outlying islands which have the same iso code. there are two one pixel dots on cyprus for the british territory - any larger wouldve messed up the island. St Martin is shown as a dot split in half because its owned by both France & the netherlands --Astrokey44 09:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Basically, take a look at User:Nightstallion/dependencies and add little dots for all the dependencies on the list. It's gonna be difficult in the Caribbean, though, as there are many countries and little room... —Nightstallion (?) 13:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, if you still need the map I'll try and do it later tonight...assuming I understand the request. :) ¦ Reisio 23:49, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think so... —Nightstallion (?) 11:09, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
Ummm...I need a world map with all rivers AND country borders marked, but NOT labeled...up to it?
74.237.244.61 12:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
gmtset PAPER_MEDIA A0
pscoast -R-180/180/-60/90 -JN11.5/40i -Df -G171/171/171 -N1/1.75p/231/231/231 -Ia/blue > yourmap.ps
- ¦ Reisio 14:32, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
SVG Germanies
Why are there two Germanies on the 4th and 5th svg maps? +Hexagon1 (t) 01:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- Simply oversight, I'm fairly certain. Should be corrected. Are there are mistakes? (Montenegro, Timor-Leste, ...) —Nightstallion (?) 08:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- I've just checked the #4 map -- it's got *part* of Kashmir (the Indian-Chinese dispute) marked as a disputed territory, but no other disputed territories are marked; both Kosovo and Vojvodina are incorrectly marked as being separate from Serbia; and in general, I'd *strongly* mistrust that map. —Nightstallion (?) 08:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Marked it as containing errors, we'll have to wait until someone proficient in svg comes along and fixes it. +Hexagon1 (t) 05:50, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
aus/new guinea map
Does anyone have a map like this one but of New Guinea as well. I want to make some frog range maps which occur in New Guinea and Australia, but they are to small to use the world map. Thanks. --Tnarg12345 12:17, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Map request
Could someone make me a map of the Kingdom of Kongo, please?Josh 23:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not a cartographer but you'd probably need to include more detail for the people that are. Kingdom of Kongo? Which time-period? Do you mean today's nations of Congo-Brazzaville or Congo-Kinshasa or the actual Kingdom of Kongo (Kongo dya Ntotila)? +Hexagon1 (t) 02:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
The actual Kingdom of Kongo.Josh 23:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- Which time-period? +Hexagon1 (t) 07:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
When it was at its largest. Not sure when that was, though. Josh 03:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
- Well, here's my attempt: Image:KingdomKongo1711.png. I'm not sure when it was at it's largest either, so that's as of 1711. It's not too great, but as I said, I'm not a cartographer. +Hexagon1 (t) 23:05, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! :) 63.225.147.193 22:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Object divisions
Are there any SVG maps that have the objects divided politically? i.e. An island which is territory of Canada would be the same object as the rest of Canada (for example). I checked all the existing ones and I don't think there are any. If not, anyone else think it might be a good idea to have one? (for the purposes of highlighting territory easily) - Рэдхот(t • c • e) 23:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
- User:Canuckguy recently made this excellent map: Image:BlankMap-World6.svg, which I'm uploading to commons as we speak. It includes a detailed commentary on it's talk. +Hexagon1 (t) 04:02, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
- Very nice. Thanks for telling me Рэдхот(t • c • e) 16:30, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Request for large Europe map
I have a request for a map similar to Image:BlankMap-Europe-v4.png - but with a much higher resolution (more like the resolution of Image:EurovisionParticipants.png; something like 1200x1000). Can anyone generate one? Preferably in png or svg format. See, I want a map similar to the Eurovision one, but which shows North Africa also.
Following on from that, I think it might be a good idea if we had one, huge, super-high-resolution blank map of the entire world. Then people could simply cut sections out of it to use for whatever purpose they wished. The current world maps we have here are far too low-resolution. Can anyone help? Thanks. EuroSong talk 16:06, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- The SVG maps can be rescaled; alternatively: Generic Mapping Tools. ¦ Reisio 22:39, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
- I tried to use Inkscape to chop and resize Image:BlankMap-World4.svg - but for some reason the program won't do this extremely simple task; instead, it tries to make things incredibly complicated. It's full of objects and layers, and won't simply allow me to cut out the section I require and then resize it to the resolution I want! Seems like a simple request, yes? But no.. the program is geared towards much more complex things, and makes it obscure how to do simple things. Can anyone guide me? Thanks. EuroSong talk 23:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
- Use the rectangle tool to make a rectangle selecting the area you want. Then select both the rectangle and the map object and use one of the options in the ... 'Paths' menu, I think. You probably want exclusion or something, not difference. ¦ Reisio 20:31, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
- While the svg maps can be scaled they still have detail going only upto a point, plus the ones of the world we have right now are grossly inacurrate. Moreover, if I'm making a map I chose to deal with the much simpler png exclusively, and I'm sure many people agree. A super-resolution world map in png would be great, preferably one without anti-aliasing. (Can the svg maps be converted to a non-anti-aliased png map?) +Hexagon1 (t) 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
- I derived a few png maps from the svg which could be used, check out large, xtra large and huge --Astrokey44 03:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
svg
It was added that svg is better than png, but Im not sure this is true for world maps. svg files are much larger - the basic svg blank map is 80kb which still is not as accurate as the 28kb png image, while the other svg files are 2.5 megabytes! --Astrokey44 11:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think there's much question that SVG is a superior format for maps. Whether the actual maps we have are better is a different question unfortunately. 68.55.114.37 02:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- A lot of the filesize can be reduced by properly saving them - some of the ones listed were saved with support for various proprietary editor stuff left in, which takes up a lot of space. ¦ Reisio 03:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
- Resio, do you have suggestions as to how to reduce the filesize? The images' current revisions were generated by Inkscape (which increased the file size by about 25%). Brianski 10:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
- Inkscape gives the option to save as 'Inkscape SVG' or 'Simple SVG' - other than that, there's the manual way. :p ¦ Reisio 10:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- I've cleaned up the SVG images linked from this page using a program I wrote. It seems to nuke most of the Inkspace bloat. Brianski 10:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- the png maps are more easy to update and to read, and alot of the time all that is required is a simple world map for marking a location or countries, rather than a huge filesize svg. My computer has trouble downloading and scrolling along this map for instance, and also I cant open it in photoshop, trying GIMP only brings up a blank blue screen, and it has trouble scrolling in inkscape. I agree that svg is better for small maps, but a world map is really complex and is more user friendly in png --Astrokey44 12:32, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- This is true - SVG reading and editing programs (including popular browsers) are in their infancy. The state of traditional graphics editing programs that are used to raster images can be even worse (GIMP, for example, just essentially takes a snapshot of the image and then lets you edit that raster picture). Inkspace is pretty decent as far as the user interface, but unfortunately creates quite large images. That all said, SVG is the way of the future, and the software will continue to improve. For now folks can choose what format they want - if they don't get enough detail from the PNG, they can choose SVG, but it's important that they are aware of the SVG format so we minimize the number of images we have like this Brianski 10:14, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- You shouldnt really be upscaling any map which shows coastlines - either bitmap or vector. Coastlines arent like a simple curve which can be graphed with an equation - such as in diagrams where there is an advantage of using vectors. Trying to scale up vector coastlines just means you have simple shapes with details missing, see this map derived from the svg - coastlines dont have sharp edges! svg is therefore inaccurate, while png is accurate to the scale which it tries to depict. --Astrokey44 08:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't really matter if the SVG file is bigger than a PNG file - MediaWiki automatically makes them raster thumbnails for the articles. ¦ Reisio 10:33, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Mh. I'm one of the most ardent supporters of SVG format for flags, drawings, diagrams and so on and so forth, but as one of the people who have to work on world and continent maps most often, I find it a rather dire prospect not to be able to simply use Paint on any computer I might currently work on to quickly update a map when necessary; if we were to completely switch to SVG, then it would be nigh impossible for anyone save a few SVG wizards to update any of the maps... —Nightstallion (?) 10:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well the thing is, as far as I know the only really accurate vector data we have is from the CIA. That's one source and a rather inflexible one. It should be fine for basic land mass outlines and even simple national boundaries, but not much more. ¦ Reisio 13:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think we need to remain with png until vector graphics become a bit more main-stream and more people & software will support editing them. There's only a few people on en:wiki right now that master vector graphics on the same level they master png graphics. +Hexagon1 (t) 01:56, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I'd strongly advocate that. I greatly enjoy contributing and updating maps, but I can only do that in PNG format. —Nightstallion (?) 08:47, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- And the svg maps we have at the moment are low-detail and totally inacurrate in some cases. +Hexagon1 (t) 05:59, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Germany
Some of the blank world maps show Germany divided! It hasn't even been divided when the SVG standard was created. Alas, I can't do anything about it, just complain... (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.197.18.231 (talk) 16:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
Historical map request (in SVG format)
Is there anyone who can convert the blank world maps of WWI and WWII from PNG format to SVG? At the moment, I'm interested in making a blank SVG map of Africa in the early 20th century to give the locations of various European colonies: at the moment these maps are only done with modern borders, although I found one map for German East Africa, but that could be better. My attempts to come up with a good quality Africa SVG map using Image:BlankMap-World-WWI.PNG didn't come out too well. Can anyone help? - 52 Pickup 14:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Im not convinced that SVG is better for such things. Firstly because I tried making a historical svg map in Inkscape of Africa, and it seemed really difficult to do the simple task of joining Ethiopia and Eritrea, which would have taken a few seconds as a png. And Secondly, because coastlines can not be shown properly as vectors, see this image --Astrokey44 04:36, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
- That's a ridiculous comparison, if you zoomed in that much with png it would end up as three or four pixels, at least with that you see what is meant to be the coast and what is meant to be the water, instead of gradually colour-shifting boxes. And Ethiopia and Eritrea can be joined easy enough using the "Path" menu tools in Inkscape. +Hexagon1 (t) 06:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- Alright I have tried again and joined them by deleting alot of points.. But why should vectors be used on a map which is made up of mostly non-geometrical shapes? (coastlines). It would be like making a vector image of a Mandelbrot set. Size is also a factor over the internet - the SVG is 2,158kb compared to a 49kb PNG world map. --Astrokey44 11:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
- The svg is displayed as a png for users, and the svg has many additional features (it acts similar to a photoshop file, with layers and such). But I wouldn't use svg much myself for maps, which is why I opposed it in the discussion far above. It can however be great for zooming far far in if the detail is sufficient. +Hexagon1 (t) 12:16, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Greater Somalia
Could someone remake this map http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BlankMap-World-detailed.png so it has Greater Somalia? Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MinnesotanConfederacy (talk • contribs) 05:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC).
- I would strongly suggest that if this is done that it be renamed to something else entirely and that Image:BlankMap-World-detailed.png be kept as is, as we use internationally-recognized boundaries on Wikipedia map projects. (Also this request isn't made for any other world map that shows the same boundaries for Somalia, curiously). This could be a very difficult task, as there is no real recognized boundaries for Greater Somalia (compare the map and flag on the article for starters). Of course, I still prefer maps are done with my Image:BlankMap-World6.svg but that's just me. ;) I'm curious what the map is needed for, I can't think of a reason that a world map needs Greater Somalia boundaries, but a regional map might be much more appropriate. --Canuckguy 14:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm curious too. I suppose they meant to have a locator map for its position in the world. It wouldnt make any sense making it as a blank map --Astrokey44 01:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- See his reply on his talk page. --Canuckguy 21:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- I don't suggest it as a replacement for (or addition to) any of the maps already there. This is just something for my personal use. I have almost no skills as a map-maker, so I was wondering if someone who is skilled could map Greater Somalia using the Image:BlankMap-World6.svg map, if they're ever bored and have time on their hands. --MinnesotanConfederacy
Request
Hi, I'm requesting a map with the subdivisions of some bigger EU-nations. i.e. germany, france, spain, italy,...
i think this map is a good base ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:BlankMap-World-Subdivisions.PNG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.134.243.195 (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Duplicate ID
Hey, I am using the BlankMap-World6.svg and I am just using some code to parse it at the minute. I am curious to know if any of the countries are repeated in the image as there are some duplicate IDs in there. Example: id="ag" and id="AG". Any ideas? 129.234.4.1 14:37, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
- All the small countries have duplicated tags in such way. As mentioned on the talk page of the map, "AG" would be the actual land of Antigua and Barbuda on the map, whereas "ag" would be use to select its "circle", seen on the "small country circles" layer (initially set to 100% transparency to make it conform to other maps' looks.) --Canuckguy 23:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Sweden
Just a little small request. Doesn anyone have or maybe could create a blank map of Sweden in high resolution. I need a good map for use on location of sports team in league articles. I would do it myself if I had any idea of how to do it, unfortunately I can't. --Krm500 12:52, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Have you tried commons:Category:Maps of Sweden? --Astrokey44 13:36, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
New York City map request
Hello. I'd like to know if there is some sort of map available for New York City, whether it'd be a road map of the city, or completely blank, containing all five boroughs (The Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens and Staten Island). A vector or raster map would be much appreciated. Thank you. --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 18:06, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- There are a few in commons:Category:Maps of New York City --Astrokey44 13:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Are there any road maps available? --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Theres some old ones of Brooklyn and Manhattan in the subcat here --Astrokey44 13:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- Are there any road maps available? --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 13:40, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
- I guess these'll help, although I'll try looking for more on the internet. --Imdanumber1 (talk • contribs) 14:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Terrorsist 1, wikipedia users 0.
-G
Hi !!
Please if possbile, can you post blank map of africa on the site...
Europe with subdivisions/provinces
This would be much appreciated.
-G —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.231.141.205 (talk • contribs) 200707032327.
- TWIMC — I'm working on fulfilling this, but it may be Thursday or Friday before I get enough free time to wrap it up. ¦ Reisio 08:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Going on an unplanned hiatus, but here's (12 MB) the Inkscape SVG I'd made to trace out the regions (generating with GMT via some GIS data would be nicer) - some layers may be hidden ATM, I don't remember. ¦ Reisio 08:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
Germany-centered Europe map
Would someone be able to do a map of Europe, pre-WW1, post-WW1, cold war, and present day, just outlines of the countries, with internal divisions as well? Thanks!! --JamesR1701E 03:27, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Canada map request
Hi, just wanted to request a blank map of Canada only in the same fashion as the others. Keep up the good work, these maps are great! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamscottmartin (talk • contribs) 14:08, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Great Mapping Resource
http://www.lordsander.net/maps.htm Here is a set of very good historical maps, perhaps too small in scale for some uses, but otherwaise my favourites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.70.34.49 (talk) 22:34, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
- As far as I can see Can't be used on wikipedia, may be copyrighted. Jackaranga 14:29, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Another map request
Could someone make a map similar to Image:Yugo template.png? An editor of Hungarian Wikipedia told me he needs a map similar to this, but one that doesn't include Slovenia, Macedonia and Kosovo, but includes only Croatia, Serbia (without Kosovo), Montenegro, Bosnia & Herzegovina; and without the inner borders between the countries.
Adirondack Park Map Request
I would like to request a blank New York State map based on Image:New York blank.svg with an Adirondack Park Preserve outline for use with Template:Location map New York. See the green area on [1]. TIA -- Mwanner | Talk 01:27, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- Image:New York Adirondack.svg, is this what you wanted ? Please say if you want it coloured differently or not coloured at all, but only outlined, or outlined in dashes, or different transparency level etc. It will only take a minute to change the colour. Jackaranga 21:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's beautiful! The color is good; if it isn't difficult to do, a blue outline would be nice (say double or triple the weight of the river lines, and maybe the color of the lake water), as the park is literally defined by a blue line. But its perfectly usable as is, if its any trouble. Many thanks, -- Mwanner | Talk 21:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
- I made 3 different ones, you can choose which is best, go to commons:Image:New York Adirondack.svg and use the revert function to choose. Remember you can use the purge tab at the top of the page if necessary, in case the thumbnail doesn't update automatically. Jackaranga 04:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's great! Thanks again, Mwanner | Talk 12:40, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- I made 3 different ones, you can choose which is best, go to commons:Image:New York Adirondack.svg and use the revert function to choose. Remember you can use the purge tab at the top of the page if necessary, in case the thumbnail doesn't update automatically. Jackaranga 04:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's beautiful! The color is good; if it isn't difficult to do, a blue outline would be nice (say double or triple the weight of the river lines, and maybe the color of the lake water), as the park is literally defined by a blue line. But its perfectly usable as is, if its any trouble. Many thanks, -- Mwanner | Talk 21:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Help create a manual of style for maps and diagrams
Right now it seems that Wikipedia provides no guidance on the best practices for creating maps and diagrams. These types of images are rapidly proliferating on Wikipedia. In fact, the Wikimedia Foundation has just started a grant program to pay illustrators to add new diagrams to articles in need. It would be nice if most of these additions followed similar styles and conventions instead of continually reinventing the wheel (with various degrees of success). Although I don't believe Wikipedia needs to enforce one particular style on all maps and diagram, there are some helpful conventions that I think we should put into writing somewhere. Wikipedia:Image use policy doesn't seem like the appropriate place for this, so I've decided to be bold and create a proposed Manual of Style page for maps and diagrams. Right now it is mostly blank as I would like to know what suggestions the Wikipedia community has to offer. Feel free to hop over there and edit it to your heart's content or add ideas to the talk page. Thanks! Kaldari 01:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- There is something very similar on Commons (where all good maps should be anyways). However, it doesn't have very good visibility (for one, Commons membership is lower than Wikipedia membership, and the subset of cartographers on Commons is lower still), but all in all there are some good guidelines there too, most of which you cover on your MOS. I would suggest maybe redirecting to that, as it already has a head start on yours and, as I said, needs greater visibility. --Canuckguy 03:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Country Key/Legend
Is there any sort of key or legend to the country outlines?
Perhaps a chart of id => country name (e.g., fx => France) or even all the path ids. I'd like to be able to assign specific colors to individual countries. Ewheeler (talk) 22:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
What Projection are the SVG maps in?
Anyone know?
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.249.60 (talk) 07:17, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- This map is in Robinson_projection. These SVG maps are ultimately derived from World_map_pol_2005_v02.svg which is labeled as being Robinson Projection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnHarvey (talk • contribs) 05:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Lake Ladoga on the main map
Hello.
Could I ask a mapping expert to add Lake Ladoga to Image:BlankMap-World6.svg?
I'm in the process of creating a series of "master maps" for World War II representing the political situation at various intervals. Since they're in SVG, it shouldn't be to much effort, once I've done one, to evolve it into the next interval, or modify it specifically for a given scenario. I've almost finished creating a world political map for Sep. 18, 1931 and just noticed that it's missing the above mentioned Lake Ladoga; which I'll be needing to represent Finland's border with the Soviet Union. Oberiko (talk) 04:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
a little help
Hey folks, I don't know if anyone has time for this, but I'm trying to make a map of Pierce County, Washington. I went through the trouble of downloading Inkscape so I could do SVGs, and am trying to get a map to edit from libremap.org, but i just get weird error screens of code. Is there an easier way to do this? Murderbike (talk) 02:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Reason why the SVG maps won't open up to full size?
Someone has to revert these maps back to the way they were. SVG isn't working, not anymore. Or is it just me?
-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 07:49, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
What the hell is SVG?
CHANGE IT BACK! I downloaded an image that wouldn't open in ANYTHING. Change it to a gif of jpg or something a person can actually get to work. Chop chop!
-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 22:56, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
- You can see a list of software to open it at Wikipedia:Graphics tutorials#Vector graphics software you can also view them in Firefox or download a plugin for IE. Jackaranga (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
There are still plenty of smaller-filesize SVG images listed on the page. ¦ Reisio (talk) 08:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Don't feed the moochers! Anyone who doesn't know what svg is is of no use to us, cartographically-speaking. He is just likely using it for some game or another. +Hexagon1 (t) 00:59, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Map Request
Excuse me. Would anyone be troubled too greatly if I requested a world map that included the American and Canadian state/province boundaries? I'm trying to replicate the Timeline-191 maps (without copying the existing ones), so it would be helpful.
Captain Smeg 14:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
- I would like to second this request. —IW4UTC 01:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
PNG is so much simpler.
I know editors love svg with their fancy editing software, but some of us only wanna colour a few countries in on Microsoft Paint. Is there a png version of http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/BlankMap-World6.svg? Thanks 79.78.111.16 (talk) 14:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I think any SVG can be saved to PNG. I used to use non-SVG maps (.gifs and .jpgs actually), but colouring countries like Canada and Russia, and USA, with lots of islands and other areas, got to be a pain, so I looked for a way to colour everythign in one shot, hense my making BlankMap-World6 to make it easier to even colour a few countries. but, as I said, you can probably just save the file as a PNG, I think that will work, but I'm sure I will be corrected if not. --Canuckguy (talk) 17:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- You can do bucket fill in Inkscape. ›mysid (☎∆✎) 17:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Preaching to the choir here. :) That's how I did it for the longest time (with Inkscape), once I got the non-contiguous areas (ie the islands, etc.) connected (again, thorugh Inkscape, knew nothing of scripts when I made the map) so that at least the bucket filling was wasy (one click per country). The map can easily be done with bucketfill in Inkscape as well 9although the end file will be bloated with excess Inkscape code though, which is why revisions to the maps are usually done by script. --Canuckguy (talk) 19:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- You can do bucket fill in Inkscape. ›mysid (☎∆✎) 17:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- You're supposed to open the SVG in a text editor, not a graphics editor. You should then be able to easily pick and choose what you want colored and how, if you have any aptitude for text editing. ¦ Reisio (talk) 21:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Gray maps with white borders (and white for water)
Well, I finally got completely the wrong idea from one of these maps — thinking something an island that's in fact a peninsula.
We seem to use this style a lot here, despite WikiProject Maps having a much different, and IMO better set of conventions. One could argue that it's easy for anyone to alter our gray/white maps to fit into these conventions, but clearly this is not being done in many places, and it also wouldn't be that hard for us to conform to WikiProject Maps conventions before we place maps here.
Unless there's some sensible opposition, I'll be converting these sort of maps to fit into the aforementioned conventions whenever I come across them (and have some free time :p).
¦ Reisio (talk) 21:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- A nice thing to do :-) By the way, is there any way to make a different border width in between countries, and between countries and water in .svg? In fact if you set the maps to the convention colors, borders seem thin. But if you make them thick, coastline for Norway or Greenland becomes a mess. Emilfaro (talk) 02:28, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
- On BlankMap-World6.svg I have two different classes for "borders", for islands without borders, a thicker width, and for international borders, a thinner width. This can easily be put in place for any .svg map. --Canuckguy (talk) 14:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Go for it, Reisio. These maps are confusing and bland (ugly, even). Thanks, MapMaster (talk) 00:03, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
- On BlankMap-World6.svg I have two different classes for "borders", for islands without borders, a thicker width, and for international borders, a thinner width. This can easily be put in place for any .svg map. --Canuckguy (talk) 14:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- Wait. English colors have been previously largely critiqued by non-english-wiki cartographers. In short : ink consuming (not print friendly) + chartjunk ; CIA-based (!!!) ; even the former creator of this set (user:Planemad) have himself encourage to leave this CIA based convention for more-thinked ones.
- The French Map lab and the German map labs have all discuted the style, and have all agree to use an updated Grey/yellow/blue style. The German map maker are quickly working in this way, as you can see there (de), about 100 countries maps have already be done, while the French have quickly adopted it too, as you can see there (fr).
- IMO, yes, new country locator maps should be create, based on BlankMap-World6.svg, and they should be adapted from the most neutral and international style available : the grey/yellow/blue one.
- Yug (talk) 06:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- PS: for this specific usage, I would also personally encourage to keep white oceans (avoid Chartjunk rule). Yug (talk) 06:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
South America
It seams we do't have a blank map of South America! is it? -Mariano 14:17, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
- Image:Southamerica-political-blank-01.png
- Image:Blankmap-ao-090W-americas.png
- ¦ Reisio 13:05, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Greater German Reich
I have tried but to no avail to create a world map showing Germany at her greatest extent prior to the establishment of the RSI and Mussolini's downfall.
There is a poor quality map of the Third Reich very roughly showing what I want, however no map seems to include Germany and (correctly) the Polish General Government. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Westhmq10 (talk • contribs) 20:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
1600's/1400's
The historical maps provide no coverage between 800 AD and 1800 AD and I propose maps for the 1600's and 1400's AD, which are important times in world history.--86.29.246.149 (talk) 12:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Map Help
Does anybody know where to find an svg world map that has provincial/state/territory borders? Attempting to update File:World homosexuality laws.svg is starting to become a pain because there isn't a single U.S. map with state-borders that matches the world map. --haha169 (talk) 23:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Quite Some Historic Maps
Wow! Those historic maps are pretty brilliant. They really should be available as vector graphics. Martinor (talk) 01:28, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Congo, Republic of.
I'm looking for some vector/raster data for the republic of Congo. There seems to be alot of data on the other Congo (Democratic Rep. of Congo), but I'm having difficulty locating it for Rep. Congo. Could anyone point me in the right direction or are there existing maps available in this forum? The information is for a school presentation. Its not even mapped much in OpenStreetMap! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.239.136.198 (talk) 13:51, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
random..
1. how to edit vector atlases with html code
2. why the <dont know the name> lake in netherlands is not included with other oceans and lakes?, i dont know.. because it is artifficial or something else
3. what type of countries are included - for example faroe islands are included while Nagorno Karabakh Republic not, why?
4. blank map world 6 is the mayor atlas in wikipedia and is it prefferable?
5. is there the version of this atlas in winkel tripel and other main projections
6. is there more detailed version of this image(for example the blank map of europe is more detailized
7. where i can find more maps is there some subpages or category? lists that i have seen are not full
8. could it be a good, layered PNG version of this image
8.1 or just rasterized but more than 2000px
9. why PNG blank maps are so small
10. what program will better rasterize the atlas with good compresion
11. the circles are assignet to not microstates like cyprus, i think it is not good
12. how i can use the circles for microstates?
13. circles sometimes dont cover the state fully, it is bad
14. where i can find the name of countries that are included separately
14.1 and that are not included
15 could the borders of the map will be included seperately from the water for easy editing and rasterizing and further editing ....
16.why in blank map europe malta is green? Hotj (talk) 11:04, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
historical boundaries
It might be nice to have some other blank world maps for different historical times - nineteenth century for instance. I made Image:BlankMap-World-WWI.PNG and Image:BlankMap-World-WWII.PNG based on the maps for allies for WWI and WW2, not exactly sure what year they would be for, but I think the more of these maps the better -- Astrokey44|talk 05:55, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Excellent idea!
-G
- Very good idea. Perhaps one focusing on each continent would also be useful as well. This would be especially useful in the history of Europe, from around 1800 until present times. --JamesR1701E 03:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)--JamesR1701E 03:26, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- I have a wishlist along those lines, as well, but even more generic. IDEALLY, would like a blank world map just marked with significant natural features like rough land or water bodies, since humans settling in those areas try to claim everything between points they can defend. Gist is that historical shifts in national borders seem likely to be in units of such areas, so a world map divided into "defensive units" would be like a kind of graph paper for geographical history. Just trace out which lines to include.KhyranLeander (talk) 14:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
Another Request, but a good one I think
wish I knew how to make it myself but I'd like to see a map that includes both National Subdivisions as well all Colonies and minor states, basically a combination of this [[2]] and this [[3]] much thanks to anyone who can help me with this, basically I need it for a project involving comparison of the old colonial empires to modern day borders, and I think having a map for that very reason could come in handy for Wikipedia. Arkkeeper (talk) 20:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
Map request (historical Poland)
On the off chance somebody is monitoring this discussion page, please see Wikipedia_talk:POLAND#Historical_location_maps_for_Poland_needed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Projection is important
It would be nice to have this list be a sortable table, and have one of the columns be projection because otherwise I have to spend a lot of time hunting for the correct shape or fiddling with warping one of the two maps. Craig Pemberton (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craig Pemberton (talk • contribs) 03:39, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
UK Boundary Commission Changes
It would be helpful for many if the parliamentary constituency maps were such that they can be used for political projects. Trying to change the colours is not straight-forward, as the svg or png images leave pixels of the old colour in the edges.
A 'data store' of monochrome bitmap images would be very helpful (white areas, black borders). If such a thing exists, a link to them would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.157.91 (talk) 16:25, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
Free use of Wikipedia: blank maps
May the blank maps be freely used on non-commercial web siyes that are unrelated to Wikipedia?
Barry G. Hall [details removed]
My apologies if this is an inappopriate post to this talk site. Feel free to delete the post and to respond by email — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.29.41 (talk) 07:10, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
- (I have removed your email address to protect your privacy)
- Yes. You'll need to click on the maps that you wish to use to see their licensing terms; the three that I looked at were all marked as "public domain" in which case you can do whatever you like with them. Some may have other licensing terms which you'll need to follow. See Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content#Images and other media for more detail. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:53, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Locator maps for Foreign relations of Cyprus
Please can someone create the locator map between the island of Cyprus-Iraqi Kurdistan and Cyprus- UAE
1)Cyprus-Iraqi Kurdistan 2)Cyprus-UAE — Preceding unsigned comment added by IsrArmen (talk • contribs) 07:59, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Color
I tried but failed to color File:BlankMap-World-large.png (the first one in the png section). It always shows shades of grey, not the desired color. Do I need another editing program (I'm using Paint)? 117.0.239.239 (talk) 02:11, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
Mexico under Central America?
Why is Mexico under Central America national maps?
I was looking for it and went directly to North America, couldn't find it so I thought it didn't exist until I searched for it and saw that is under the wrong subcategory. It should be in the national maps of North America and not of Central America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisi~eswiki (talk • contribs) 06:50, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Andy's percentages
What do those percentages behind Andy's maps mean? --Menchi 08:25, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)
- See the text above - the rescaling factor I used to scale them down, for getting the boundaries more smooth by the anti-aliasing. andy 08:27, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)
Request
I'm requesting a large blank US map from the Civil War era for mapping the campaigns of the Civil War. --brian0918™ 15:14, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Map Request for Canada.
I would like to request a map that shows the Canadian Districts (etc. Kenora District, Rainy River, Thunder Bay) on a map similar to the Historical WWII Map like https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/BlankMap-World-WWII.PNG
But with the same map but with modern borders and the borders of the Districts within Canada.
PrinceTanglemane (talk) 00:32, 20 March 2015