Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates/Sadie Harris/archive1

Addressed comments from Crisco 1492

• "Harris and Meredith give each other nicknames: "Die" and "Death", respectively." - Give or gave, past or present? When do they get these names?
  • Reworded. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• "The surgery goes wrong, however, and Harris' life is seriously endangered, though fortunately she is rescued by the residents." - Couple issues. First, "fortunately" is a judgment call and thus not necessary. Secondly, this looks like it needs restructuring. I'd suggest noting if there was a mistake, or something like that, and simplifying the sentence.
  • Restructured. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• "though later tells Lexie that she is not apologetic." - Who tells Lexie this? Should be noted.
  • Noted. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• Generally I expect referencing the individual episodes for a character's article, like at X (The X-Files). It doesn't seem to be an FA criteria though, per examples like Poppy Meadow.
  • Per WP:TVPLOT, I don't think it's necessary, but I did it anyways. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
    • To be fair, TVPLOT focuses on episode summaries; an episode can be treated as its own source for that the same as a film can. A character isn't really the same as they aren't an identifiable source; I can verify the accuracy of the plot for "Abyssinia, Henry" by checking out the episode, the details of which I can easily see in its article, but for a character I would have to watch every episode they appear in to verify these things unless a specific one is cited for each event/storyline. I do think it helps a reader; but if you have a source which maybe discusses multiple episodes at once or summarises the character's narrative arc in one place then that would be a better solution as it's a little more concise. As it is, it's perfectly fine though. I've amended the cites a little as some buck asshole seems to have deprecated a hugely-common field in {{cite episode}}, replacing |credits= with |author= without supporting both. GRAPPLE X 23:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
      • Is there any way we could fix that cite episode thing? Otherwise, I have a lot of editing to do. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
        • I have zero confidence in my ability to actually fix the parameter but I guess it could be asked for in the hopes that someone can; otherwise you'll have to find-and-replace |credits= anywhere it's in use; which I've begun elsewhere. It's a pain. GRAPPLE X 23:57, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
          • The template is fully protected, so I can't do it. Where should I take this request? TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
            • Template talk; I'd assume. GRAPPLE X 00:10, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
              • Done. Feel free to add more at Help talk:Citation Style 1. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
• "her recurring guest performances in the television drama In Treatment" - Year?
  • Year provided. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• Per comments at the Awake FAC (including some of my own) you should cut down on these long quotes. Yeah, they're great anecdotes, but they can be easily summarised. This short section alone has two fairly big quotes.
  • Ok; paraphrased almost everything. The only "long" quote remaining is the one at the end of the first paragraph of #Casting and creation. I thought it wouldn't read good as a paraphrase. However, if you think it should be, let me know. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• Fix the citation needed tags.
  • Addressed. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• Any indication how Jolie's character influenced Harris?
  • Further context given. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• "who becomes jealous of the friendship between her and Sadie." Jealous of whose relationship?
  • Reworded. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• "the second most worthless guest star ever" - On the show or on any show?
  • The source doesn't explicitly say, but I'm assuming she's just referring to Grey's Anatomy. That seemed a bit ORish, so I left it as is. Let me know if you want me to change it. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• What makes BuddyTV a reliable source, or one with enough weight to be given the same focus as the NYT??
  • BuddyTV was deemed reliable by Nikkimaria; she copyedited an article for me, and gave me a list of questionable sources, and BTV was accepted. It was also accepted in my recently promoted FAC for Give Peace a Chance (Grey's Anatomy), and, to my knowledge, appears in a few other FA/Ls. BuddyTV operates with an editorial staff, and has partnered with several widely renowned corporations, including Flixster and Rotten Tomatoes. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
• Outrageous and Brash... why? The other characteristics too.
  • I gave context to most of them, but some were either really simply explained, or provided no other context. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Quite a few comments this time. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:24, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for those; I addressed or replied to them all. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:14, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

• A follow up comment for now:

• "He informs her that the reason she has not been fired is because of his relationship with her father" - This begs the question: what is the relationship?

• Explained. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

• "Explaining that she decided to leave to pursue another project, and praising the cast members" - I think this should be "she had decided" as it is an event in the past that happens before another event in the past (i.e. requires the past perfect)

• Fixed. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

• I suggest finding a way to work in that George considered her character broken and using her sexuality to cover up something else, that's fairly important character information.

• Added. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

• That looks to be it. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:23, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

• All issues addressed, thanks. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Addressed comments from TBrandley

Comments

• Images need alt text, explaining what is in image
  • Done. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Character name in infobox inage caption should not have bold per MOS:BOLD
  • Done. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• casting agents, the show's casting agents?
  • Added.
• suddenly departed, remove suddenly per WP:NPOV
  • Done. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• The character has generally, remove has, as redeunant
  • Done. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• It recives reviews, not feedback
  • Feedback is defined as "Information about reactions to a product, a person's performance of a task, etc., used as a basis for improvement." It is a perfectly acceptable word. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Should be three seperate quotes for her charaziation in lede
  • Done. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Also, I don't believe references should be in lede as that content should be further in articld per WP:LEDE
  • If there's direct quotations, they need an immediate citation, which is mentioned in WP:LEAD.
• made known sounds funny, perhaps rewrite
  • I disagree. It's the common wording for that type of sentence. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• After its first mention, Merdith Grey should be just Grey isn't in some places of article
  • There's Lexie and Meredith, so the MOS says to refer to them by full name the whole article (Nick-D informed me). TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Same goes for other people/characters
  • Same as above; though Lexie and Meredith are the only ones with this circumstance. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Unlink Grey's Anatomy in production per WP:REPEATLINK, see it please
  • There's no repeat link of 'Grey's Anatomy', besides the lead, and there's also no 'production' section in this article. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• She made her first appearance on the show in the episode "These Ties That Bind", being introduced as Harris, a longtime friend of series' protagonist Meredith Grey, wait isnt that already in the storylines section
  • Removed. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Shouldn't among be from in first sentence of reception?
  • No. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Don't use curly quotes, use regular, change it in ref 1, per WP:MOS
  • Changed. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
• Add television portal
  • Too many portals; it creates a white gap.
• Remove Wikia link per WP:ELNO
  • Removed. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for my messy writing and typos; the comments are from my phone that's why lol. Anyway, that's all that I could find. Well done! TBrandley 15:37, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Fixed/replied to everything; hope you can support. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 16 September 2012 (UTC)