Wikipedia talk:Featured article review/Tornado/archive2

CCI check (done)

Earwig Duplication detector

Checks per Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/WikiProject Tropical cyclones. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:28, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

• Pre-FAR2 version: 2021-12-23 1061717156
  • General Earwig
    • Public domain web.archive.org/web/20060929185156/http://www.spc.ncep.noaa.gov/faq/tornado [1]
    • Public domain spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/#The%20Basics [2]
• FAR1 version: 2009-12-17 332202860
  • General Earwig, blog copying Wikipedia, right down to the structure and hatnotes
• FA version: 2007-03-26 117906714
  • General Earwig, nothing new
• Pre-FAC version: 2007-02-26 110988175
  • Croation survival school ... https://www.extremesurvive.com/archive/survival-urban-tips/tornado-survival not at archive.org until 2020 [3] [4]
• GA version: 2007-01-18 101461715
  • Aminoapps again, rest same [5]
• Pre-GA version: 2006-11-18 88549852
  • General Earwig
    • Juliantrubin.com took from Wikipedia
    • Aminoapps most likely took from Wikipedia, but I can't prove it, not archived, need to go back and see how duplicated content was built
    • Public domain spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado identified in current version: [6]

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Copying within

WP:CWW

Pre-FAR2 version

13:26 2021-12-23 1061717156

CWW on Convective storm detection, Tornado climatology, Tornado records, Tornadogenesis SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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Convective storm detection Y Earwig Earwig Convection storm 144660847 20:31, July 14, 2007 Tornado 144482462 21:21, July 13, 2007 "Rigorous attempts to warn of tornadoes" "When severe weather is anticipated, local weather service offices" "There are more than 230,000 trained Skywarn weather spotters across the United States" "spotters are trained to discern whether a storm seen from a distance" "usually visibly evidenced by evaporation" "signifying a tornado is on the ground before condensation connects" "so can spot evidence of rotation in storms" "evidence of a supercell and likelihood of a tornado includes inflow bands" Convection storm 149934211 07:50, August 8, 2007 Tornado 149934407 07:52, August 8, 2007 "features such as a hard and vigorous updraft" (same editor so does not need WP:CWW template) "wall clouds that rotate spawn" (same editor so does not need WP:CWW template) Dust devil N [7] Enhanced Fujita scale N [8] Firewhirl N [9] Fujita scale N [10] Funnel cloud N [11] Gustnado N [12] Landspout N [13] Multiple-vortex tornado N [14] Pulse-Doppler radar N [15] Steam devil N [16] Supercell N [17] Tornado climatology Y [18] Not all is from December 6, 2006 creation, additional by one editor in 2009, during FAR "when the flow aloft is strong" "buckle the atmospheric flow, forcing drier air at mid-levels" "topography allows for frequent collisions of warm and cold" Climatology all inserted at 22:19, November 14, 2009 during the first FAR Tornado 325869938 22:18, November 14, 2009 Tornado family N [19] Tornado intensity and damage Y [20] All from original, correctly attributed Tornado myths N [21] Tornado outbreak N [22] Tornado outbreak sequence N [23] Tornado preparedness N [24] Tornado records Y [25] 325870925 22:24, November 14, 2009 Tornado 325868849 22:12, November 14, 2009 Tornadogenesis Y [26] 244292289 03:31, October 10, 2008 Tornado 243202277 16:07, October 5, 2008 TORRO scale N [27] Waterspout N [28] Weather radar N [29]

FA version

03:03, 2007-03-26 117906714

Everything already found or attributed correctly, except Tornado preparedness SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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Convective storm detection N did not exist Dust devil N [30] Enhanced Fujita scale N [31] Firewhirl N [32] Fujita scale N [33] Funnel cloud N [34] Gustnado N [35] Landspout N [36] Multiple-vortex tornado N [37] Pulse-Doppler radar N [38] Note: Done correctly in 2005 and 2006 !! Steam devil N didn't exist Supercell N [39] Tornado climatology N [40] All duplication came from properly attributed split December 6, 2006 Tornado family N [41] Tornado intensity and damage N [42] Correctly attributed in edit summary 05:56, December 6, 2006 Tornado myths N [43] Tornado outbreak N [44] Tornado outbreak sequence N [45] Tornado preparedness N didn't exist Check for attribution FEMA tornado Tornado before Tornado during Tornado school Attributed: [46] Tornado records N [47] Tornadogenesis Y [48] Already found (below, see GA version) TORRO scale N [49] Waterspout N [50] Weather radar N [51]

GA version

01:12, 2007-01-18 101461715

All copying within correctly attributed except Tornadogenesis SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
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Convective storm detection N didn't exist Dust devil N [52] Enhanced Fujita scale N but ... later ... [53] correctly attributed in edit summary Firewhirl N [54] Fujita scale N [55] Funnel cloud N [56] Gustnado N [57] Landspout N [58] Multiple-vortex tornado N [59] Pulse-Doppler radar N [60] Steam devil N didn't exist Supercell Supercell N [61] Tornado climatology N [62] Did I already note split from Tornado, 05:38, December 6, 2006 ? Everything duplicated came from December 6, 2006 edit, which was properly attributed in edit summary. Tornado family N didn't exist Tornado intensity and damage Forked correctly with link [63] Tornado myths N [64] Myths lead rewrite 03:35, June 30, 2009 The lead rewrite used bits and pieces from Tornado, appropriately, only one way to phrase certain things Tornado outbreak N [65] Tornado outbreak sequence N [66] Tornado preparedness N didn't exist, done above Tornado records N [67] Tornadogenesis Y [68] Started 83872468 16:57, October 26, 2006 Tornado 83870320 16:45, October 26, 2006 TORRO scale N [69] Waterspout N [70] Weather radar N [71]

Templates

Added to article talk: [72] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:21, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Attributed in edit summary: [73] SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:56, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Tornado

Talk:Convective storm detection

Talk:Tornado climatology

Talk:Tornado records

Talk:Tornadogenesis

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Public domain notice needed

• web.archive.org/web/20060929185156/http://www.spc.ncep.noaa.gov/faq/tornado [74]
• spc.noaa.gov/faq/tornado/#The%20Basics [75]
• To check 3367563 (Unable to locate possible copyvio)
  • {{Pd-notice}} added to Tornado.[76]
  • Incidental findings at Tornado preparedness from this edit; Pd-notice added. [77]

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:24, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Copyvio or close paraphrasing

None found, other than public domain. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Time tracking sample

• 2021-12-23 – 32 mins – set up, gather diffs on old versions, list sub-articles, repair articlehistory to find old GA noms, 14:55 to 15:27
• 2021-12-26 – 58 mins - do basic Earwig checks for all previous versions, add {{Pd-notice}} on NOAA sites used, no copyvio found, 3:17 to 4:15
• 2021-12-27 – 1 hour, 46 mins – starting on copying within, 00:35 to 02:21, got only a start
• 2021-12-27 – 2 hours, 25 mins – Earwig timing out, 15:20 to 17:45, two left to run at GA version
• 2021-12-28 – 2 hours, 45 mins – 0 UTC to 02:45, one CWW left to check, then to add all templates and null edits
• 2021-12-28 – 1 hour, 30 mins – 0 started at 13:35, finished at 15:05

Total time, about 10 hours. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Summary

An interesting finding was that multiple editors were correctly attributing in edit summary as early as 2005 and 2006 (1), 2006 (2), so those didn't need to be templated. Several instances of copying within without attribution occurred during the 2009 FAR. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:06, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Completed. With public domain text now attributed, this article meets FA criterion 1f.

1. It took about ten hours to complete this work; the time was inflated because of the very high number of sub-articles in a summary style overview FA. In a more typical article, with only three or four summarized sub-articles, hopefully the work can be done in about four hours.
2. When I was almost done with this work, as requested on the FAR page by Hurricane Noah, I discovered that this suite of articles is not included in the CCI (see Wikipedia talk:Contributor copyright investigations/WikiProject Tropical cyclones#Tornado). Nonetheless, with the similar histories, the same work is and was needed.
3. I did not encounter any copyvio from non-public domain sources.
4. On public domain sources, I found attribution needed with {{Pd-notice}} at Tornado, and I incidentally came across this edit at Tornado preparedness, and added the public domain attribution there.
5. Other than what I encountered incidentally while browsing edit histories, I did not complete any additional investigation on the sub-articles.
6. I found many instances of copying within (CWW); some were correctly attributed with a link in edit summary, and others were not. I did not find content copied in to Tornado; all instances I found were of content copied from Tornado to sub-articles. Of note, it takes just as much time to investigate those that are correctly attributed as those that are not, so it might be helpful to add talk page templates even when correctly attributing. I want to thank and acknowledge editors Beland, Dan100, and Forderud for correctly attributing CWW over a decade ago, and remind editors Thegreatdr, Evoluaxia, and Runningonbrains to review WP:CWW and the work needed here to track down unattributed copying within.
7. It is my hope that this page, although an exaggeration of the amount of work that will be needed in less highly summarized articles, will provide an example of the work needed throughout weather articles. Hopefully that work can be done before articles appear at FAC, FAR, and GA processes in the future, to assure that compliance with copyright policy is met per WP:WIAFA and WP:WIAGA. As content review processes check for copyright policy compliance, it is important to realize that violations can be obscured via the extreme amount of copyediting that is done during content review processes, so previous versions need to be checked.

@Sennecaster and Moneytrees: for review of my work. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:23, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

See centralized discussion at WT:FAC. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:13, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

@SandyGeorgia Wow, this is a really extensive and impressive review, I have no issues with it. My only recommendation would be turning off the "use search engine" feature with Earwig, since in my experience it only really finds mirrors and wastes time. It's only useful in situational circumstances, like if you're looking at the edits of a user who doesn't consistently cite their sources or if you're trying to intentionally find mirrors. Sorry again for not responding so quick... I've been occupied over the holidays and have been taking some time off to recover from an illness. I promise I'll get to these over the next few days and help out. Moneytrees🎄^{Talk/CCI guide} 05:18, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, Moneytrees, and thanks for checking in on my work. Best regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:53, 31 December 2021 (UTC)