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editI've never had much luck properly setting up bot archiving. Anywho, Wikipedia:OTRS noticeboard/Archive1 was created and the project page says All archives are linked from this page. Noticeably still a redlink. Killiondude (talk) 04:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
Archives
editEither I'm visually mistaken, but, where are the archives of this page? I need to follow up on something. NonvocalScream (talk) 19:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- I added an archive box :) there is only one archive so far. --Errant (chat!) 20:48, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
New Member having trouble appropriate page to make suggestion for new article
editI am new member and I want to suggest new article: "Identification of Cats by Species with Images". I would appreciate reply to this suggestion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CherokeeElderWalker (talk • contribs) 14:53, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
- I've moved your requests to the appropriate page (see the link above). Please don't add any more to this section. On another note, please sign your contributions to talk pages by typing four tilde characters
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. This will add a timestamp and your username for reference. De728631 (talk) 17:03, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
Reference Jacklyn Lucas MOH Marine Corps. Jack Lucas stowed away on a troop train from NC to Cal. to keep from being discharged when it was found at Lejeune that he was underage. When it was fund out again in Cal. that he was underage he stowed away on a troop ship bound for the Pacific and this time he was allowed to stay with the rest of the Marines and resulted in his landing at Iwo Jima where he did the deed that he was awarded the MOH for. He did Not die in the hospital. He died at home. He requested to go home to die when the hospital told him he was terminal. I talked to him on the phone just days before his death and his wife sent me the last personally autographed copy of "Indestructible". I am an old Marine Sgt., a Viet vet. and followed his career in history of the Corps. His wife was a true Marine wife as she corrected me when I introduced my self as a "former" Sgt. in the Corps. Once a Marine always a Marine. The deed he did on Iwo was when he was only 15 years old and that should make him the youngest US service man in modern history to be awarded that medal. The Corps medically discharged/retired him but he wanted back in the military service so he got himself capable of making the physical to join the Army and as an Officer qualified for the paratrooper training at Columbus Ga. This I heard from his own lips in a telephone conversation I will NEVER forget. Respectfully submitted Deane Halsey Gilmour, Jr., Sgt. of Marines, April 1964 to July 1968 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:0:AC80:4E4:F4E8:567D:7CF2:A2AE (talk) 23:19, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Has Photo Been Accepted?
editHi. I am acting as Wikipedia article writer for Audrey Capel Doray. Can you please let me know if a photograph of Audrey Capel Doray.jpeg has been accepted? Here is the text of the copyright release that was sent by email from the copyright holder:
<<EMAIL REDACTED>>
Thanks for letting me know on my talk page. Conceptual-Aesthetics (talk) 17:42, 28 June 2015 (UTC)Conceptual-AestheticsConceptual-Aesthetics (talk)
- The email has not yet been processed, but should be reviewed shortly. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:59, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
Atlantic International University needs to be removed from the List of unaccredited institutions of higher education
editPlease see this articles talk page-->https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_unaccredited_institutions_of_higher_education
Removal request for Atlantic International University [additional request][edit]
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2605:E000:6009:9700:B115:6497:6203:C5F8 (talk) 02:49, 15 October 2015 (UTC) Hello we are Requesting that Atlantic International University be immediately removed from this list as they are now accredited. Also, they are not located in Nigeria, Never have been. This inaccurate information is affecting the Staff and Students of this University.
AIU has been accredited by Accreditation Service for International Colleges
---> http://www.asicuk.com/international-directory
ASIC is listed in The USA's Council for Higher Education Accreditation's international website as a recognized accrediting Body ---> http://cheainternational.org/intdb/display1.asp?ID=c164
This is in breach of the condition that still put Atlantic International University in the list of unaccredited institutions of higher education. Please remove the Atlantic International University from the list. The article states that these institutions do not have any Higher Education accreditation, therefore this is another breach and they are accredited by ASIC--->https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recognized_higher_education_accreditation_organizations. We are asking Wikipedia kindly to remove Atlantic International from This list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:6009:9700:B115:6497:6203:C5F8 (talk) 02:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Also, we wanted to note that all the references that are linked are outdated materiel as as well as information prior to Atlantic International Universities accreditation. Further note that the accrediting agency is NOT private, they are a international accrediting agency regulated by the UK government--> http://cheainternational.org/intdb/display1.asp?ID=c164. This information is outdated and AIU has since completed the accreditation process and has been awarded. Again, we are asking kindly to remove this information as it's outdated and inaccurate. The Links you have listed for the sources from Mexico is outdated and its not a reliable source. It's from a website archive. We are asking kindly to reconsider and have Atlantic International University from this list mentioned. Please take into consideration that actual human beings such as its students, grads or staff at this University is directly harmed if unfair and unsupported defamatory allegations are made.
Thanks again for your prompt attention in this matter. If you need to speak on the subject to someone personally, you can contact <redacted>
Thanks again and we hope Wikipedia can get this resolved ASAP. 2605:E000:6009:9700:B115:6497:6203:C5F8 (talk) 05:27, 15 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.119.59.33 (talk)
Putting template ConfirmationOTRS
editPlease someone can insert {{ ConfirmationOTRS | source=http://www.mondadori.it | id=2018051110011399 }}
to Talk:Arnoldo Mondadori Editore? We are translating from the Italian article and some contents were authorised via OTRS (see top of it:Discussione:Arnoldo Mondadori Editore). Thank you. --Marco Chemello (WMIT) (talk) 15:18, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
OTRS Admins vs Ombudsmen (Hypothetical)
editHaving just come across the Ombudsman commission from reading about a current Steward consideration, I see that its remit includes:
The ombudsman commission investigates complaints about infringements of the Privacy Policy, the Access to nonpublic information policy, the CheckUser policy and the oversight policy on any Wikimedia project for the Board of Trustees. [My Bold]
The OTRS network generally states variations of "Team members are accountable to the OTRS administrators for their actions when using the system."
Does the fact that, unlike (e.g.) Arbitrators, OTRS agents do have an oversight chain who can actually view any applicable evidence, this takes precedence, at least as 1st port of call, over the commission?
Not currently an issue, but I was interested in whether it should be clarified. Nosebagbear (talk) 18:55, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- I would expect that if an agent were found to have breached the privacy policy in some particularly egregious matter, that the WMF could in some way or another revoke your confidentiality agreement, meaning you cannot have access to OTRS. But that's really just speculation on my part. GMGtalk 18:59, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- That would be the logical sanction (it says so in the document signing process), I guess this was more targeted at who was responsible for making the decision that it had been breached. Nosebagbear (talk)
- Well in general, our own informal systems of administration and oversight (in the normal, not "WP" sense of the words) are the first and preferred channel to resolve these issues. All of the agents I've seen lose OTRS access for cause (and there aren't very many of them) have all been removed based on a local decision among OTRS admins. Alternatively, as an ombudsmen, like any ombudsmen in the real world, they would serve as a specifically external review should the normal processes fail, and presumably could recommend escalating to office actions to resolve whatever the situation is, where office actions as such are not in any way subject to local consensus. GMGtalk 19:11, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Sounds reasonable Nosebagbear (talk) 19:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- Well in general, our own informal systems of administration and oversight (in the normal, not "WP" sense of the words) are the first and preferred channel to resolve these issues. All of the agents I've seen lose OTRS access for cause (and there aren't very many of them) have all been removed based on a local decision among OTRS admins. Alternatively, as an ombudsmen, like any ombudsmen in the real world, they would serve as a specifically external review should the normal processes fail, and presumably could recommend escalating to office actions to resolve whatever the situation is, where office actions as such are not in any way subject to local consensus. GMGtalk 19:11, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- That would be the logical sanction (it says so in the document signing process), I guess this was more targeted at who was responsible for making the decision that it had been breached. Nosebagbear (talk)
Proposal to rename OTRS
editEditors may wish to participate in this discussion on meta about renaming OTRS. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:46, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
ARBCOM involvement query
editOut of interest, has any en-wiki (thus, en-info/en-permissions) OTRS agents ever actually been removed by ARBCOM, as opposed to by the OTRS Admins? Is it just a backup if the two groups ever clash?
I can imagine it being a collateral judgement if ARBCOM decided to long-term block someone, though I've no idea if that's occurred with an agent. Nosebagbear (talk) 09:00, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- From what I understand, OTRS works cross-wiki and doesn't fall under the remit of ArbCom (though I imagine the OTRS admins would consider removing an agent for unusually poor behaviour that led to a significant block or ban on a Wikimedia project. Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 09:06, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- That's what I had assumed, but "Actions by OTRS volunteers on English Wikipedia are ultimately subject to review by the Arbitration Committee.". Re-reading, I suspect it may mean edits that OTRS agents make on en-wiki are still subject to ARBCOM jurisdiction, even if they justify them as supported by OTRS evidence. It could probably use a clarification Nosebagbear (talk) 09:19, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
- That text was added by FT2 who was at that time a member of ARBCOM that originally objected to the creation of the OTRS Noticeboard. The original objection is here. MorganKevinJ(talk) 00:17, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
Permission timeline
editHello! I was wondering what the typical turnaround time is for images to be accepted to someone's page? Once the permission is given, of course. Thanks. Katherine311MH (talk) 01:17, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Katherine311MH, English-language emails typically receive a first response within about a week right now. Past that point, it depends on the specifics of the situation. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 03:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Apparently the permission was given for this image a few weeks ago, but the notice is still on there. Would someone here be able to assist? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Burgess Katherine311MH (talk) 17:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Katherine311MH: If you are referring to File:Trevor Burgess.jpg it was verified on 13 July. There are no deadlines and all OTRS agents are volunteers, so one should be patient. ww2censor (talk) 19:37, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Yep, that's it. Okay, just wondering. Thanks. Katherine311MH (talk) 20:12, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Katherine311MH: If you are referring to File:Trevor Burgess.jpg it was verified on 13 July. There are no deadlines and all OTRS agents are volunteers, so one should be patient. ww2censor (talk) 19:37, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Apparently the permission was given for this image a few weeks ago, but the notice is still on there. Would someone here be able to assist? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Burgess Katherine311MH (talk) 17:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Help contacting BLP subject on Instagram
editCan anyone assist in contacting a BLP subject on Instagram? We’d like to have them clarify a post from 2018. Gleeanon 22:45, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
- Gleeanon409, OTRS doesn't contact people, people contact OTRS. Could you add specifics to the situation you're referring to? I don't know how this would exactly be related to something on Wikipedia. Also who is "we"? Sam-2727 (talk) 02:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- It sounds like we need to get someone else to initiate contact and turn it over to OTRS when it’s ready to confirm their identity. Gleeanon 02:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Gleeanon409, What is the purpose behind contacting the individual? Darren-M talk 08:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- I assume this is related to this DRN case. @Gleeanon409: I concur with Darren-M's comment there - this is outside of OTRS's scope. OTRS's function is to respond to incoming emails. We don't initiate contact with people, and we definitely don't do it via Instagram. The handful of times I'm aware of OTRS volunteers contacting someone via Instagram were as part of ongoing email conversations with notable individuals (initiated by those individuals) toward marking their Wikipedia accounts as a
{{verified account}}
. In any case, even if we did do this, any information we received would be private correspondence that could not be shared outside of OTRS. It could not be used as source material for a Wikipedia article or to resolve an editing dispute. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:48, 23 October 2020 (UTC)- Thank you for the feedback. Gleeanon 15:52, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- I assume this is related to this DRN case. @Gleeanon409: I concur with Darren-M's comment there - this is outside of OTRS's scope. OTRS's function is to respond to incoming emails. We don't initiate contact with people, and we definitely don't do it via Instagram. The handful of times I'm aware of OTRS volunteers contacting someone via Instagram were as part of ongoing email conversations with notable individuals (initiated by those individuals) toward marking their Wikipedia accounts as a
- Gleeanon409, What is the purpose behind contacting the individual? Darren-M talk 08:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- It sounds like we need to get someone else to initiate contact and turn it over to OTRS when it’s ready to confirm their identity. Gleeanon 02:59, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Requested move at Template talk:OTRS talk#Requested move 11 August 2021
editThere is a requested move discussion at Template talk:OTRS talk#Requested move 11 August 2021 that may be of interest to members of this noticeboard. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 20:43, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Add CC by 3.0 CL to Template:Creative Commons text attribution notice
editIs it possible to add CC by 3.0 CL to {{Creative Commons text attribution notice}}? The article Claudio Gómez incorporates Spanish-language text that appears to have been taken from the BCN de Chile. The text from BCN is licensable under CC by 3.0 CL, but the template doesn't support that. I tried seeing if I could add a switch for by3cl
, but VRT permissions are required. In the meantime, I have the basic CC by 3.0 version of the template on the page, which I've started trying to clean up. Thank you, —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 20:22, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- This has been taken care of. Thanks. Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 14:36, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
File:Hugh Pilkington in Djibouti.pdf
editIs this VRT OK? Krok6kola (talk) 20:09, 10 August 2023 (UTC)