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If anyone knows where to find the height of the NYS Comptroller Building on State Street in Albany please let me know, I have several sources with lots of information on this building and would like to create an article on it, but one thing I'm missing is its height! Emporis does not list it. Hopefully someone here has some thoughts on where to look or researching secrets they can pass on. Thanks!Camelbinky (talk) 15:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps you could call the comptroller's office or the architect's office and ask them. Then you could use Template:Cite interview. Good luck! --Albany NY (talk) 21:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- I never thought about that! Great idea. Thank you.Camelbinky (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure that will work very well; you can't really report in Wikipedia on your own personal interview with someone. I was not familiar with the {{cite interview}} template before; it looks useful for reporting about televised interviews of a person by a TV reporter, as in the examples it gives. But certainly you could call and try to get the facts, and at the same time ask them how they know those facts. If they point to a book of Albany architecture or some reference source, that is leading you to primary or secondary sources in writing which can indeed be used (with appropriate care). What about city building department file information, permit information, though? You could perhaps go into the appropriate city office and get access to specific building file info. It would be easier if this is compiled in some book by the city permits / building office though. Have fun with it! --doncram (talk) 02:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, this is getting more complicated! Looks like I may have to wait until I can be physically in Albany in August and do as you suggest in person. It's a state owned building but even the state has to file permits and follow city regulations I would assume, so you're right there must be some information in the city/county hall of records or the city building department.Camelbinky (talk) 21:51, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- Not sure that will work very well; you can't really report in Wikipedia on your own personal interview with someone. I was not familiar with the {{cite interview}} template before; it looks useful for reporting about televised interviews of a person by a TV reporter, as in the examples it gives. But certainly you could call and try to get the facts, and at the same time ask them how they know those facts. If they point to a book of Albany architecture or some reference source, that is leading you to primary or secondary sources in writing which can indeed be used (with appropriate care). What about city building department file information, permit information, though? You could perhaps go into the appropriate city office and get access to specific building file info. It would be easier if this is compiled in some book by the city permits / building office though. Have fun with it! --doncram (talk) 02:38, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
- I never thought about that! Great idea. Thank you.Camelbinky (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Harry Blatner, capital region architect
Hi, i wonder if anyone has any references to Henry L. Blatner, whose Modern Movement-style Clarksville Elementary School (Clarksville, New York) seems interesting. The NRHP listing document for the school doesn't have a whole bio about him, as they often do for single listings about an architect, but it mentions he went on to be a big success as an architect in the Albany / Capital Region area. I would be very glad if anyone here would like to contribute to either of those articles and/or take help take one or both towards DYK if that seems warranted. Perhaps something like "Did you know that Harry Blatner's rural, 1949 Clarksville Elementary School presaged many green design principles such as bilateral lighting now in vogue?" --doncram (talk) 16:18, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
- Blatner is also one of the architects of the Empire State Plaza and must have been involved in many other major projects in Albany area. If anyone has any general books on architecture of the area, it would be very helpful if you could look him up. Thanks! --doncram (talk) 17:17, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
- I appreciate the help of User:Acroterion in developing the Henry L. Blatner article, help which i invited separately from here. Otherwise, i haven't seen any editors here actually supporting the development of Albany County NRHP articles. That's okay, we're all volunteers and no one has to do anything. But, i'm ending my own efforts to develop them, which i was undertaking as part of an intended drive, discussed on this Talk page previously. I developed about 9 articles, many early in the long list-article and others sharing the Guilderland MPS document which came up in some of the early ones. I didn't take them very far, just started them and formed the NRHP document references and added a bit about the significance of the place. Anyhow, i'm done, and the drive was a bust, but no biggie. Thanks for listening. --doncram (talk) 05:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
- I completely rewrote the Washington Park Historic District (Albany, New York) and SUNY System Administration Building articles and created Van Ostrande-Radliff House and I've begun working on an article for the South End-Groesbeckville Historic District; I'm trying my best but I tend to work on what I happen to be learning for my own enjoyment, Wikipedia is a by-product of what I love to learn and read about and what I'd be doing anyways, so my work tends to be a bit jumpy on which article I'm working on and if I "finish" it. I am very sorry to see you disheartened and demoralized.Camelbinky (talk) 05:18, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
- I, too, appreciate your efforts. The past few weeks I've been working on a complete rewrite of Albany, New York, which I'd like to bring to FA status (I think I'm reasonably close; only two or three more sections need work). Unfortunately, bringing articles to FA doesn't really meld well with getting a large number of smaller articles started. It's a difference in goals, is all. Anyway, thanks for the efforts thus far. upstateNYer 05:26, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
- Like i said, it is no biggie, but i do appreciate your kind words. Perhaps to clarify, I was referring to working on the Albany County (outside of Albany the city) NRHP list, at National Register of Historic Places listings in Albany County, New York (rather than National Register of Historic Places listings in Albany, New York, which includes the 3 or 4 articles that Camelbinky refers to). Thanks. --doncram (talk) 03:17, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
- I appreciate the help of User:Acroterion in developing the Henry L. Blatner article, help which i invited separately from here. Otherwise, i haven't seen any editors here actually supporting the development of Albany County NRHP articles. That's okay, we're all volunteers and no one has to do anything. But, i'm ending my own efforts to develop them, which i was undertaking as part of an intended drive, discussed on this Talk page previously. I developed about 9 articles, many early in the long list-article and others sharing the Guilderland MPS document which came up in some of the early ones. I didn't take them very far, just started them and formed the NRHP document references and added a bit about the significance of the place. Anyhow, i'm done, and the drive was a bust, but no biggie. Thanks for listening. --doncram (talk) 05:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Albany, New York surge
If you haven't noticed, Albany, New York is currently being rewritten. Please feel free to help out if you can. We are looking to get things sourced mainly, but new prose is also necessary. A good intro will be needed soon, so if you're good at that, please feel free to have at it. Any help would be appreciated. I expect the rewrite to be at least a GA and plan to bring it FAC soon after that goal is achieved. upstateNYer 04:26, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
- Rewrite is complete and live; Albany has been promoted to GA! upstateNYer 20:50, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
GA review
I hope someone can do a GA review for Albany Pine Bush, I just nominated it. Thanks!Camelbinky (talk) 00:59, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
"Albany Collection" template on Commons
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FYI
Oakwood Cemetery, in Lansingburgh, is today's featured article. Check it out! upstateNYer 14:59, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Grand Union Hotel & Happy to help
Hi, I hope this is the right place to write. I recently greatly expanded/completely re-wrote the article on the Grand Union Hotel in Saratoga Springs. It's a long article but very comprehensive. I still need to figure out how to upload photos; I have a ton of photos to add to this page. Would it be a good article to nominate for the "Did you know...?" page? I also created a page on Gideon Putnam (founder of Saratoga Springs). I need to add birth/death dates of all his children, which I'll do next time I head over to the historian's office. That being said, that article should be done as well. I'm happy to help with other articles, so let me know. Sherazade96 (talk) 13:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome! The Gideon Putnam article can go for DYK and the Grand Union if it is 5x longer in prose than it was before. I believe you have five days in order to nominate it so you should nominate it quickly. Upload photos at the Commons, you can follow the links to there from the upload file link in the toolbox (I use the old look of Wikipedia, the new skin may have things placed differently) if you have questions look up User:Zoofari's user page there or ask User:UpstateNYer here at Wikipedia. I'd be happy to help with DYK nominating if you need help with that.Camelbinky (talk) 15:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
I've never nominated anything before....if you could help, that would be fantastic, thanks. If you could walk me through the process, that would be even better! Thank you! I uploaded some additional photos on the Grand Union this afternoon (I hope I did it right). Sherazade96 (talk) 20:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Simplified instructions for DYK put on your talk page, and welcome to the wikiproject! I look forward to reading more of your work, dont forget to post it on the new article part of the wikiproject page so we can all keep up on your new articles and help out where we can. Glad to see some new blood.Camelbinky (talk) 23:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Move request for New York
Feel free to comment at Talk:New York#Requested move. Request is to move New York to New York State (or something similar) and make New York a disambiguation page. upstateNYer 21:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
CommerceHub business article
CommerceHub is headquartered in Albany NY at NanoTech Complex. We have posted a request for a business article at Wikipedia, and created a draft of an article, with a full list of references, in my user subpage user:dougreed22/Draft Article. Would you be able to review the article and advise us on how to proceed? We are working hard to follow the Wikipedia guidelines and policies, and I have disclosed my conflict of interest on my user page user:Dougreed22. Thanks. Dougreed22 (talk) 20:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Old stereoscopes
Just found a ton of 19-century stereoscopes at Commons:Category:Stereo cards of New York. There might be some that can be cropped and added to articles.
--Gyrobo (talk) 22:41, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
- Very cool. I'll make sure to try to use those around the project. upstateNYer 04:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
US Collaboration reactivated & Portal:United States starting next
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New category
I've just created a new category Category:Parks in Albany, New York and have included Washington Park Historic District (Albany, New York), Lincoln Park (Albany), Tivoli Nature Preserve, and Albany Pine Bush. If anyone knows of any other Albany parkland articles please spread the word.Camelbinky (talk) 04:38, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
Photo request for Menands, New York
If someone is in the area of Menands, New York and can drop by the Albany Rural Cemetery, I'd like to get a photo of a gravestone for William Bliss Baker, who is apparently buried there. Is there anyone here who could go there and take a good picture of the headstone, then upload it to commons and post a link here? I really appreciate any assistance. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 22:07, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
- I could do that tomorrow, if it's nice. Albany Rural is pretty big. Any idea where he is? upstateNYer 00:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- I don't have any idea, but they may have a directory of some sort there. I live almost 2000 miles away from there, so I don't have any way to easily check. Their website doesn't list him, either (but it only lists a few of the very most famous people buried there). I appreciate your help. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 09:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Were you able to find anything? I appreciate your help. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:02, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
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William's headstone
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Baker family plot (William's headstone is called out in a note on Commons)
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Front of Baker family stone (bad lighting, though; William's headstone called out in note on Commons)
Okay, here are the photos you were looking for. upstateNYer 19:57, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you so much! I really appreciate your help on this. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 03:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
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Shopping Centers
In April, a user put suggested notices for deletion on articles about several major shopping centers in the Capital Region such as Westgate Plaza, Stuyvesant Plaza, Mohawk Commons, and others, as being "non-notable." They are all linked within the shopping center link for the Capital District at the end of each area shopping center article. These articles have tens of sources from major local newspapers in the Capital District. According to the individual's user page, he is from Pennsylvania and focuses on PA, MD, and other areas in that region. He is not familiar with the NY Capital Region and the history of these places. The same individual was for the deletion of Latham Circle, which is also significant to our area's history.
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Greater Capital Region In-Person Meetups?
@UpstateNYer: As a "lifer" here (born Troy, 1966), very much enjoyed viewing all the Albany+ content you've posted to Wikipedia! As a native, just wanted to express gratitude and say thank you for documenting this so well. I'm wrapping the Clifton Park *Wikipedia Loves Libraries* event now, and am thinking it would great if folks like ourselves could meet in-person on a regular basis, and share experience, advice and company, at a venue like Panera Bread at Latham Farms. I know this Panera hosts other social media and engineering groups (IEEE, Peter Coombs, etc.), so Wikipedians in the Albany region could certainly do the same. Would be grateful to know what you think. Sincerely, - Larry Lawrence Kelley (talk) 21:26, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Peer review of William Bliss Baker
Please come participate: Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Peer review/William Bliss Baker. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 08:34, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
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Having a bit of anrgument about the wording in this article, the article originally claimed it was the oldest charter in the Western Hemisphere, this term is often misused to mean the Americas, when parts of England & Scotland & SPain and all of Wales, Ireland & Portugal are in the Western Hemisphere. NOt to mention portions of Africa. I forst changed Western Hemisphere to Americas that was reverted. I then removed West Hemisphere, it was reinstated by the same user. If some one could have a look before a revert war brakes out.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 21:18, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
- I suspect that the source means the Americas, but I'm not sure that the examples you've provided contradict it, because of the words "possibly" and "still in force". At least one of the charters you've mentioned is Liverpool's 1207 charter, which is usually described as its first charter, implying that there has been at least one since then - and many of the charters in England appear to have been superseded in around 1685 and again more recently, such as in the 1970s local government reforms. A search doesn't find confirmation of anything older, but it may be that there is but the research hasn't been done, or hasn't been published online, or isn't easy to find online. The claim was made by "Stefan Bielinski, author of Government by the People a 64-page book written to mark Albany's Tricentennial", so I'd say if it's to be included this should be attributed within the article. Peter James (talk) 20:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
- A discussion was started much earlier than this at the WP:NOR/N which is the proper place for a community discussion, not here, which this wikiproject has not been all that active (and that for possible conflict of interest purposes I'll admit- I co-founded this wikiproject). The NOR/N discussion was first, is a proper venue, and the next best thing to a discussion on the talk page of Dongan Charter itself.Camelbinky (talk) 01:17, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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Timeline of Saratoga Springs
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- Still looking for help with this nomination. If you have a few minutes, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:35, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
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A new newsletter directory is out!
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
- – Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Portal:Capital District for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether Portal:Capital District is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Capital District (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 08:12, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Latham Circle Mall
Latham Circle Mall needs some serious updating. It seems that for the past 10-15 years, the updates have been sporadic. With the mall totally demolished and now rebuilt, the article needs some love. On my last look, I saw that the new stores were being listed one at a time with the "as of" such-and-such a date. When I can take a breath I'll try and get started on this, but I'd love some help! Kjscotte34 (talk) 17:00, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Merge into WikiProject New York
Please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_York_(state)#Merging_inactive_WikiProjects. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:47, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
Statistics section, updated
Greetings, On WP page, I added wikilinks to "Popular pages" (which is now working & runs monthly), and "Quality operations". JoeNMLC (talk) 16:12, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Capital District articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion
Category:Capital District articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 06:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
New Member Focusing on Rensselaer, New York
Hello,
I've been working on Rensselaer, New York, List of mayors of Rensselaer, New York as well as other pages related to Rensselaer. I'd be happy to help with editing of these pages and join as a member of the Wikiproject Capital District.
User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)
and turns it into something like
- John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)