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Slanderous Content

I am reviewing old content that was pitched as a public relations ploy to destroy character based on chicago press related slander. "WITCH HUNTS'. Any content that I see that is reflective of that I will attempt to change and correct. A sa community journaist for 25 years..the political condemnations and the historical natives that contribute to that junk journaistic stye must stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seancik (talk • contribs) 03:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Um... what? 25 years in journalism seems a suspect claim, given your complete lack of clarity in explaining to us what exactly you're even talking about... let alone the issues of spelling and punctuation. Just saying. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 06:31, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Photo request parameters

All the photorequest templates in the current WP:Chigago template lead outside of the city to suburban Cook County. How can this be fixed? ----DanTD (talk) 16:16, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Not all, but this is the best place for the suburban photo requests.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:40, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Chicago will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Chicago's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 00:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Richard M. Daley good article drive

The coast is clear at a top-importance Chicago article. Hi all. I've attempted some furtive stabs at this article in the past, and was always very frustrated by the lightening-quick reverts, which I strongly suspected but could not prove were related to a stable of a dozen taxpayer-funded PR firms, many with active online practices. Well, lately, things have changed. It's a huge project touching on decades of Chicago history and will require many related articles, please pick a chunk and dive in, Maggie, the schools take-over, Hired Truck, the parking meter deal, the environmental record, more... Thanks! Hugh (talk) 00:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Haymarket affair Good Article reassessment

Haymarket affair, which is listed as part of this WikiProject, has been nominated for a community reassessment to determine if it meets the good article criteria and so can be listed as a good article. Please add comments to the article reassessment page. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 19:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Radio station confusion

I'm struggling to make sense of some radio stations. We have an article on Nine FM and one on WKIF. The 9FM article says that the 9FM format was ended in 2008, while the WKIF says the format was rebooted in 2008. I was hoping some Chicagoans could clarify whether Nine FM is still broadcasting on WKIF, or if WKIF is doing something else. Thanks, D O N D E groovily Talk to me 03:49, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Where I am (the NW side of Chicago), 92.7 is progressive talk radio [1], with dance music at night [2]. Zagalejo^^^ 04:12, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

The 9FM format might still exist in the Kankakee area, though. See [3]. I can't seem to find any sort of a website for that station, though. Zagalejo^^^ 04:20, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Streeterville

I need another set of eyes on the recent edits at Streeterville. I don't want to war with someone outside of my area of expertise, but I am not entirely comfortable with the wholesale changes that have been made recently. (Maybe JeremyA (talk · contribs) or Zagalejo (talk · contribs), but anyone would be fine)--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

It seems OK. The gun running allegations are backed up in a number of secondary sources, though I'd like to know the primary source for that information. I do question why someone claiming to be removing POV would remove the fact that he was a civil war veteran, which isn't disputed in any of the sources that I have looked at so far. —Jeremy (talk) 16:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

You say it is O.K., but then you have some substantive quibbles. I don't want anything removed or added that shouldn't be, but I'm not sure what to fight with the guy about.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Well, 'OK' is a relative term—there's certainly room for improvement, but I don't think it bad enough to just do a straight revert of the edits. There's actually quite a lot of room for improvement in that whole section of the article, as well as in the main George Streeter article. There's a lot of "that is what Streeter claimed, but actually this is the truth", where what is being presented as truth is actually the opinion of one or more historians, and so should be presented as opinions in the article (even naming the people whose opinion is being presented). As far as I can see pretty much every secondary source about Streeter is biased either for or against him, so we don't really have any hope of presenting a definitive account of that part of Streeterville's history—in such cases I prefer to try to present both sides of the story and allow the reader to decide.—Jeremy (talk) 18:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

I've made a few small changes to the article to clean it up a little and keep it focussed on Streeterville rather than the good or the bad of Streeter himself. I'll try and revisit the article properly when I've had chance to do some more detailed reading.—Jeremy (talk) 18:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Roy Lichtenstein Retrospective

The largest ever Roy Lichtenstein retrospective opens here at the Art Institute of Chicago on the 13th for members and the 16th for the public. It will also travel to National Gallery of Art, the Tate Modern and Centre Pompidou. Wikipedia only had one Lichtenstein painting before I created 4 last night. I could use some help building these up and some others. I think other important works include Crying Girl and Drowning Girl. In addition, I Can See the Whole Room...and There's Nobody in It! sold for $43,202,500 in November 2011 and Ohhh...Alright... sold for $42.6 million in November 2010. He had an Untitled Composition sell for $10,162,500 May 12, 2010. They must be important. He has lots of works that have sold for several million without articles. Here are the million-plus sales from the first five pages of a Christies.com google site search: (The Ring (Roy Lichtenstein) ($3,401,000, 13 May 2008), Cherry Pie (Roy Lichtenstein) ($3,218,500, 10 November 2010), Girl in Mirror ($4,898,500, 10 November 2010), Girl in Water ($1,874,500, 11 - 12 May 2010), Anxious Girl (Study) ($1,142,500, 8 May 2012), Brushstroke (Roy Lichtenstein painting) ($2,322,500, 8 May 2012), Reflections on the Prom ($8,777,000, 13 May 2008), Coup de chapeau II ($2,841,000, 13 November 2007), Abstraction with Guitar ($1,808,000, 15 November 2006), Interior with Painting and Still Life ($4,562,500, 8 November 2011), Collage for Nude with Red Shirt ($4,104,792, 30 June 2010), Drawing for Kiss V ($2,098,500, 11 May 2011)). This of course ignores Sotheby's and those held in collections that don't sell.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Sleeping Girl Fetched a new Lichtenstein record $44,882,500 today (2012-05-09).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:25, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Just did a five-page Sothebys.com google site search and found a lot less than at Christies, but still a few other notable works needing articles Sailboats III ($11,842,500, 09 May 2012) and Surrealist Head (1,314,500, 10 May 2011).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:07, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

• I am looking at books and most of those mentioned above are not that notable. I did realize that although the member preview ends on the 15th, the public show does not start until the 22nd.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:53, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Barack Obama FAR

There is a discussion ongoing at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Barack Obama/archive9Lihaas (talk) 16:28, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

These are like semi-annual events. Let's go see what is going on this time.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding Tourism in Chicago merge

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidentsregarding an issue with which you may have interest or ideas. The discussion is about the topic Tourism in Chicago. Thank you. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. I have commented, but I think there are a lot of other more involved editors who are moving things in the right direction.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:58, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Current severe backlogs - you can help!

I noticed that we currently have two severe backlogs in both Category:Unassessed Chicago articles (~2,000 articles!) and Category:Unknown-importance Chicago articles (~15,000 articles!). I've tagged both and created a progress bar on our main project page to track the progress we make towards clearing them. I'll be working to clear these backlogs, and I'd encourage any members of this project and other interested parties to help as well. Happy editing! elektrikSHOOS (talk) 04:12, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Admissions controversy at Whitney Young

Just wondering, whatever happened with this investigation into admissions at Whitney Young High School? The article had previously mentioned that investigations were ongoing [4], but no one seems to have updated that section since 2009. Huberman is long gone. Zagalejo^^^ 00:38, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I did just find a little bit, but any additional info would be appreciated. Zagalejo^^^ 00:53, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

2nd opinion request for Ted Snyder (economist)

Could someone take a look at this edit. I think I may have trouble being objective.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:03, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Does this really qualified as a WP article?

This 'article' isn't anything more than a list of places (most of which don't have WP articles of their own) that are in in the Bridgeport neighborhood. It reads more like a Yellow Pages, and doesn't do a whole lot for anyone who would be accessing the article that it is linked to unless they needed to order a sandwich or see a Catholic school/church in the area (the latter of these are already covered in other lists/articles on WP). Ryecatcher773 (talk) 04:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that really slipped through the cracks! I don't think it stands a chance of surviving AFD. Schools and churches are worth mentioning, but there's plenty of room for that kind of material at the main Bridgeport article (and as you said, much of it is there already). The rest probably violates WP:DIRECTORY. It's not like Jimmy John's is headquartered there. Zagalejo^^^ 06:22, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Can anyone identify a building...?

Hi - I was wondering if anyone could identify one of the buildings in this picture of Chicago from 1907; it's State Street, but I can't quite work out which the buildings are on the left. Any ideas gratefully received! Hchc2009 (talk) 08:35, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Apologies - I was being dumb. It's the Masonic Temple and Marshall Field and Company! Hchc2009 (talk) 08:58, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes America/Chicago

I have posted Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes America/Chicago although I have yet to finalize plans. We are doing ours a little bit later than other areas of the country since our last event occurred while the college students were away. This time, we will try to have an event after all the local schools come back including the late schools like University of Chicago.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I believe the tentative plans are final now. Feedback welcome.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:25, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article review/South Side, Chicago/archive1

Come contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article review/South Side, Chicago/archive1.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:04, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Disco Demolition Night

Please see the RfC regarding racism and homophobia. Thanks. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 00:53, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia Chapter

There are various operations that are being considered to bring wikipedians together. Are there Chicagoans who would be interested in being on the board of a Chicago Wikimedia Chapter?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:00, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

• What kind of responsibilities / expectation would be required of such a position? I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 15:13, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Expressway vs. Freeway

About a month and a half ago, I moved the article Roads and freeways in Chicago to Roads and expressways in Chicago only to have it moved back by a Wikipedian from Michigan who cited 'over redirects' as the reason for reverting my move. As I have stated on the talk page of that article 'expressway' and 'freeway' are regionalisms, and in fact 'freeway' is redirected to Controlled-access highway. Not to mention, there are also templates that are Chicago specific and categories that use the term 'expressway'. There isn't any legitimate reason (other than basic laziness) that moving the article to a title using 'expressway' is problematic. I would encourage any party involved with WikiProject Chicago to get involved on that page I mentioned earlier. It's a Chicago-related article on a Chicago-related topic, and it shouldn't be mislabeled (after an attempt to fix was made) simply because someone unfamiliar with Chicago has a personal issue with it. Thank you. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 05:37, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

South Side Chicago FAR

It looks like I may need some editorial assistance at Wikipedia:Featured article review/South Side, Chicago/archive1. Please help save our WP:FA for South Side, Chicago.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:57, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

This is going to be delisted if noone from the project steps up to do a copyedit. I need help and time is running out.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

If I get a chance, I'll start looking at some individual sections, but I don't have the energy to do a full copyedit right now. Zagalejo^^^ 22:07, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

FYI, the information about the tallest buildings on the South Side (in the Landmarks section) is out of date, since One Museum Park is complete. There are probably several other statements that have gone out of date. Zagalejo^^^ 22:28, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

List of settlement houses in Chicago

Was prompted to start this when I noticed that even prominent, long-lasting settlements like Chicago Commons and University of Chicago Settlement were redlinks. Thought it might be of interest to users here. -- Visviva (talk) 05:13, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Houston... er Chicago, we have a problem

A user by the name of Speciate has taken it upon himself to start messing with an article whose subject is near and dear to most Chicagoans hearts -- the Chicago-style Pizza. Please see the history of the edits on both the article page and the talk page and weigh in. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 02:06, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I have heard people use the term "Chicago-style thin crust", although I don't know if there's any universal definition for what that means. The article says something about the "consistency of the crust and the quantity and choice of the tomato sauce", but even within Chicago, such things vary from restaurant to restaurant, in my experience. What are the most authoritative sources on Chicago cuisine? Zagalejo^^^ 03:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think there are any, but of course if there are reliable sources then I'll happily go along with them. Speciate (talk) 08:27, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Arthur Schultz

I've requested a good article reassessment of Arthur Schultz. See: [5] -- Mesconsing (talk) 18:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

New (stubbish) article for Police Superintendent McCarthy

Hello all; - I have just started an article for Garry McCarthy. It is still pretty stubbish, but I want to invite any interested parties to contribute to it. Thanks KConWiki (talk) 05:12, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Surprised we didn't have an article about him! Zagalejo^^^ 05:26, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

FAC open

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Juwan Howard/archive5 now open.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:09, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

FAC help needed

If anyone can help with Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Jean Baptiste Point du Sable/archive1, I'd much appreciate it. After the middle of next week I won't be able to edit much for a few weeks, so I will have to withdraw this FAC if no one else can help. Thanks —Jeremy (talk) 16:05, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

3 WP:FAs in a one-week span

On March 24, Arthur W. Radford and Disco Demolition Night were promoted to FA and one week later Juwan Howard joined them. It has been quite a long time, if not forever since we have gotten three FAs in a one-week span.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Old Chicago Cubs logo at WP:FFD

Comment at Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2013_April_5#File:1920_cub_logo.jpg.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:47, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Chicago-style hot dog

Is it really necessary to have such a long list of historic vendors in this article? I can see Weiner Circle, Maxwell Street, Superdawgs, Gene & Jude's and a few others being mentioned... but the list is getting kinda outta hand. Have a look for yourselves and see what you think. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 00:06, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that'll just grow indefinitely unless a firm hand takes charge of things. It might be a good idea to limit the list to places that have (or could have) their own wiki pages. Zagalejo^^^ 00:29, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Art Institute of Chicago

Editors might want to weigh in here: concerning the art collection [6]...Modernist (talk) 00:49, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Juwan Howard WP:TFA

Juwan Howard is on the main page for WP:TFA right now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:37, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

2013 Chicago Wiknic

Is there anyone who would like to lead or co-lead the organization of the 2013 Wiknic?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:51, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

O.K. I'll organize it myself. Let's do Lincoln Park this year. Where is a good meeting place in the park?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:27, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Tinker to Evers to Chance

In the past 60 days Tinker to Evers to Chance Baseball's Sad Lexicon set of WP:GAs has been completed. Hats off to Muboshgu (talk · contribs).--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I need to complete Baseball's Sad Lexicon next to make it a full Good Topic. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:19, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Template:Lincoln Park

I created {{Lincoln Park}}, but I don't know Lincoln Park very well. Help welcome.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

You can throw in Kwanusila. (By the way, should that article be moved to Kwa-Ma-Rolas? See [7].)

We don't seem to have a separate article on the Couch Tomb, but it's a pretty strange remnant of Chicago history, and would be fun to see in WP:DYK. Zagalejo^^^ 05:35, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

What about The Second City Theater? For now, I'll put it under "Attractions." I've also added in its historical district, Old Town. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 02:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Davis Theater and the History Collections at Sulzer Library

Just added an article on a local movie theater in the Lincoln Square area that has some history-- looking to get this to DYK next. Apparently, there were lots of other theaters in the area that have since been demolished. I'm heading to an historical archive (the Northside Neighborhood History Collection) that's at Conrad Sulzer Regional Library this week to check things out. They have a lot of older photos and records from the North Side of Chicago, some of which is in the public domain. Does anyone need me to look for anything in particular or make scans of any documents for them while I am there? I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 05:23, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Ah, the Davis Theater... Good topic! I don't need anything this second, but I'm glad you linked to that collection, because I might check it out in the future! Zagalejo^^^ 07:32, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Interesting. P.S. I can't think of anything that is needed at this time.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 11:10, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

KidGleason1919photo.jpg

image:KidGleason1919photo.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 (talk) 10:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

RfC on Talk:Barack Obama

There is an RfC at Talk:Barack Obama#RfC: Should "the first African American to hold the office" have a footnote in the lead?. Please comment there. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 21:48, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

John W. Rogers, Jr.

Can someone give me a 2nd opinion on the tag at John W. Rogers, Jr..--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 01:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Although I'm sure a spot or two could be tightened up, I certainly don't think it can be characterized as promotional. By and large, it seems objectively written and is certainly well-cited. -- DS1953 ^talk 15:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

• • I would say it has had WP:TONE issues as the tone seems too personal (including some unencyclopdeic details) and overbreezy but not promotional. Alanscottwalker (talk) 12:37, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Two navboxes for museums

FYI, there are two navboxes in use for Chicago museums: Template:Museums in Chicago, and Template:Chicago mci (museums and cultural institutions). We don't really need both. Anyone have suggestions on what to do with these? Zagalejo^^^ 23:03, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I created {{Museums in Chicago}} on 06:21, 11 December 2012‎ and {{Chicago mci}} was created on 08:37, 3 January 2013‎ by Kjkjl555 (talk · contribs). I forgot to deploy mine until recently. About 75% of mine are on his. Not sure what percent of his are on mine. His is fancier, but I think mine is more consistent with the format used for other cities at Category:Museum navigational boxes when I created it. I don't have a problem with the extra feature his has (division by type of institution). I am just not sure if his distinctions are clear cut and/or sourced. He also created an infobox for St. Louis institutions. What format do we want to go with? How should we proceed?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:46, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I think we should use your template, and add any museums that are missing (or at least the blue-linked museums). "Cultural institutions" is a very broad concept, which could be defined to include theaters, schools, and even restaurants and sports organizations. Zagalejo^^^ 05:52, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll come up with a list of blue-linked items that his template has that are not on mine and we can evaluate which are museums and which are "cultural institutions".--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:49, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Here is what I have: Mary and Leigh Block Museum of Art, Chicago Cultural Center, Frank Lloyd Wright Home and Studio, Graham Foundation for Advanced Studies in the Fine Arts, James Charnley House, Chicago Botanic Garden, Garfield Park Conservatory, Lincoln Park Conservatory, Morton Arboretum, Cuneo Museum, Noble-Seymour-Crippen House, Prairie Avenue, Copernicus Foundation, Illinois Holocaust Museum and Education Center, Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Brookfield Zoo, Lincoln Park Zoo, John G. Shedd Aquarium and Money Museum are all on his template.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:55, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

So, what do you think? Zagalejo^^^ 01:08, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed your reply. Well. we have to decide which ones should be added to a list of museums. I think about half should.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

1. Yes: Mary and Leigh Block Museum of Art, Frank Lloyd Wright Home and Studio, James Charnley House, Cuneo Museum, Noble-Seymour-Crippen House, Illinois Holocaust Museum and Education Center, and Mitchell Museum of the American Indian.
2. No: Chicago Botanic Garden, Garfield Park (Chicago park), Morton Arboretum, Prairie Avenue, Copernicus Foundation, Brookfield Zoo, Lincoln Park Zoo, and Shedd Aquarium
3. Maybe: Chicago Cultural Center, Graham Foundation for Advanced Studies in the Fine Arts, Lincoln Park Conservatory, and Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree with your "yes" list. I'm not sure what to say about the zoos and botanic gardens. The museum article does count such organizations as museums. But the average reader probably wouldn't classify things that way. (If we do decide to include the "living museums", then I would add Lincoln Park Conservatory to the "yes" list, since it's a similar institution to the botanic gardens.) Zagalejo^^^ 05:38, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree with not including Prairie Avenue and the Copernicus Foundation. I don't know enough about the Graham Foundation for Advanced Studies in the Fine Arts to comment about that one. I'm leaning "no" for Chicago Cultural Center; it's more of an "exhibit space" than what I'd consider a museum. The Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago does have the Money Museum, so I'm leaning "yes" on that one, but I would use a piped link in the navbox. Zagalejo^^^ 06:09, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Still thinking about this, hoping for another opinion.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:38, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Support inclusion of botanic/zoological, cultural, historical and architectural see List of museums and cultural institutions in Chicago#Museums, it would also make sense organize them the way the list does. The cultural center also archives and exhibits for its collection, so that should also be included. The two houses that are open for visitor education, like those on Prairie Avenue (Glessener and Clarke) should also be included, as should Robie House and James Charnley House and Hull House. No objection to separating the museums from other types of CI in its own nav box but the nav box would be more useful for people, if they were listed by subject matter. Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:56, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Are you saying you support the inclusion of all links at issue?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't think we would have Prarie Avenue but the museum houses should be there. I don't think the Copernicus Foundation or Graham are museums. I do not mind limiting it by historical importance but I don't think limiting it by subject is good (eg. zoological/botanical are museums). Alanscottwalker (talk) 11:07, 16 April 2013 (UTC) Also, Garfield park is listed probably because that's where the Pedia covers the Garfield Park Conservatory, that should be a pipe link in the box, also yes to the Money Museum. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 11:17, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I will take a look at these one by one and see what consnesus is soon. Still wishing for more opinions.-TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:54, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm in agreement on the yes and no lists per the list above from Tony. I also support including the Chicago Cultural Center and Graham Foundation for Advanced Studies in the Fine Arts, as they both have year-round exhibitions and galleries, the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago because of the Money Museum. Lincoln Park Conservatory seems like it'd be better classified in a botanical gardens kind of fashion rather than a museum. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 18:59, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

And just to further clarify my opinion on some of these cultural entities, I don't consider zoos and horticultural exhibits to be considered museums. Checking over a few other listings of museums in other major cities, Los Angeles contains none of these types of , neither does this template for Pennsylvania nor does this list for San Francisco. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!) 02:07, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Chicago Cultural Alliance

Related kind of. It's a shame we don't have articles on several of these institutions like the Chinese American Museum - is it lack of secondary sources do you think? Suggestions for sources here would be nice. Alanscottwalker (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Some of those are pretty obscure, but I think a lot of them could support articles. The Irish American Heritage Center even appeared on Conan O'Brien! [8] Zagalejo^^^ 00:39, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Going forward

I am trying to summarize the comments above. Please correct or update what I have put here.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 10:28, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Mary and Leigh Block Museum of Art - Yes (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

Chicago Cultural Center - No (Zagalejo); Yes (Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

Frank Lloyd Wright Home and Studio - Yes (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker)

Graham Foundation for Advanced Studies in the Fine Arts Yes (I Jethrobot)

James Charnley House - Yes (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

Chicago Botanic Garden - No (TonyTheTiger, I Jethrobot); Yes (Alanscottwalker)

Garfield Park Conservatory - No (TonyTheTiger, I Jethrobot); Yes (Alanscottwalker)

Lincoln Park Conservatory - Yes (Alanscottwalker) No (I Jethrobot)

Morton Arboretum - No (TonyTheTiger, I Jethrobot); Yes (Alanscottwalker)

Cuneo Museum - Yes (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

Noble-Seymour-Crippen House - Yes (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

Prairie Avenue - No (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

Copernicus Foundation - No (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, I Jethrobot)

Illinois Holocaust Museum and Education Center - Yes (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

Mitchell Museum of the American Indian - Yes (TonyTheTiger, Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

Brookfield Zoo - No (TonyTheTiger, I Jethrobot); Yes (Alanscottwalker)

Lincoln Park Zoo - No (TonyTheTiger, I Jethrobot); Yes (Alanscottwalker)

John G. Shedd Aquarium - No (TonyTheTiger, I Jethrobot); Yes (Alanscottwalker)

Money Museum - Yes (Zagalejo, Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

• Subject matter categorization in template - Yes (Alanscottwalker, I Jethrobot)

After some thought, I think I'm on the fence with regards to the Chicago Cultural Center. Do they have some sort of permanent collection? I haven't really spent much time there. Zagalejo^^^ 16:30, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

They have a curatorial staff that presents exhibitions (see eg. [9]). It is also a historic structure available for tours like the other historic structures on the list. [10].Alanscottwalker (talk) 12:17, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I actually really like the categorization within the template for different types of cultural attractions, rather than the straight-up listing of all the museums in the template. The latter feels a bit too inaccessible, like a wall of links. I, Jethrobot ^{drop me a line} (note: not a bot!)

O.K. I don't think we can hope for any more feedback. I have made the final edits.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 23:15, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

New

Just created - help welcome Institute of Puerto Rican Arts and Culture

Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:25, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks! Zagalejo^^^ 01:52, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Template:Noble Network of Charter Schools

FYI: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion#Template:Noble_Network_of_Charter_Schools Zagalejo^^^ 18:31, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Stanley Fish

There is a lot of controversy at Talk:Stanley_Fish#Max_the_Plumber_and_dealing_with_personal_myth regarding the occupation of Mr. Fish's father.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:30, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Libraries 2013

Hey folks-- just finalized the October 26th date for the Wikipedia Loves Libraries event for the Chicagoland area. Please mark your calendars and please RSVP at the info page. I hope to see many of you there. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 23:53, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

"The Loop"

The usage of The Loop (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is up for discussion, see Talk:Chicago Loop -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 03:55, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Loop (train)

The name for the article Loop (train) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see Talk:Loop (train) -- 70.24.249.39 (talk) 00:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Number of schools in Chicago Public Schools?

Does anyone know the current number of schools in the Chicago Public Schools system? The only statistics I can find on the CPS website come from last year. I know 50 schools were closed, but at least a few new schools were opened, so it's not a simple matter of subtraction. Thanks! Zagalejo^^^ 01:59, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Depaul's Near South Side arena

Feel free to WP:BOLDly move this page to a better name. Also, what kind of cats do planned buildings get?— Preceding unsigned comment added by TonyTheTiger (talk • contribs) 20:10, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Template:Museums in Chicago overhaul

Fitnr overhauled Template:Museums in Chicago with this edit. The institutes removed from the template are as follows:

1. ABA Museum of Law
2. USCGC Acacia (WLB-406)
3. Arts Club of Chicago
4. Chicago Postcard Museum
5. Cuneo Museum
6. The Museum of Classic Chicago Television
7. Fab Lab MSI
8. German submarine U-505
9. The Great Train Story
10. Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago
11. The Peace Museum
12. Rock N Roll McDonald's
13. Spertus Institute for Jewish Learning and Leadership
14. Terra Museum
15. Frank Lloyd Wright Home and Studio

Speak up if you want have any concerns with this edit.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:33, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Spertus wasn't removed, just mis-categorized. I've placed it in the 'Culture' section. Here are reasons for the other changes:

• Part of MSI: Fab Lab MSI, U-505, Great Train Story
• Not museums: Arts Club of Chicago (private club), Rock N Roll McDonald's (restaurant), The Museum of Classic Chicago Television and Chicago Postcard Museum (websites)
• Not in Chicago: Cuneo Museum, Frank Lloyd Wright Home and Studio, USCGC Acacia (WLB-406)
• Closed: ABA Museum of Law, The Peace Museum, Terra Museum, Money Museum

Fitnr (talk) 14:43, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

It seems like a good clean up to me. -- DS1953 ^talk 19:31, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice Tony, and for the context for the removals, Fitnr. I have no objections to the removals. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 19:36, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

College basketball team navigation templates

Please join the discussion at the College Basketball Wikiproject for forming a consensus on the creation of a basic navigation template for college basketball teams. Creation of these templates will impact articles on Chicago related teams such as DePaul and Northwestern. CrazyPaco (talk) 11:22, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Illinois State Toll Highway Authority

I have opened a review of the article's GA status at Talk:Illinois State Toll Highway Authority/GA2. Imzadi 1979 → 00:39, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Mead Junior High

Please see Mead Junior High. I gather that this is a junior high school in Chicago. The page contained a redirect to Community Consolidated School District 54, but it also contained several sections worth of content. I removed the redirect, resulting in a page that does not have sufficient context to identify the subject. If more content can be added, the page may become an article. Otherwise, it would probably be best to restore the redirect and remove all other content. (Redirects with additional, invisible content cause problems for various editing tools.) Cnilep (talk) 03:55, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

The problem has been fixed by John from Idegon. Cnilep (talk) 05:06, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Harriet F. Rees House

I just saw today that Chicago intends to move the Chicago Landmark/NRHP Harriet F. Rees House, one of the few remaining buildings from the Prairie Avenue district. I know that the site has been sought be developers looking to build a hotel, since the lot is close to McCormick Place. Anyone have any insight on where the house is headed? Teemu08 (talk) 18:53, 29 November 2013 (UTC)