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Christian Zheng Sheng College

I have self-nominated the article of Christian Zheng Sheng College at Did You Know. Feel free to comment at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Articles_created.2Fexpanded_on_June_21. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raphaelmak (talk • contribs) 2009-06-21T18:44:42

Cantonese language

A Wikipedian moved the title of Cantonese (linguistics) to Yue Chinese again since December last year. Do you have an opinion on this issue? Write your comment here. It is very bad idea to use the name Yue Chinese as it is not most people would use. — HenryLi (Talk) 05:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

IT should be moved back, since a WP:RM was previously filed. Any new move should need a WP:RM. 76.66.196.139 (talk) 11:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The person who moved the page was a party to a previous RM discussion, so is not impartial. 76.66.196.139 (talk) 11:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The Hong Kong article

I can't believe the Hong Kong article is no longer of FA status. Even the MTR article is, but Hong Kong is much more important. From a year ago, I noticed that a lot of information has been removed and the length has been incredibly shortened. Fixing it up should be everyone in WikiProject Hong Kong's first priority. 加油 everyone! Toyotaboy95 - Hong Kong (talk) 10:52, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Fixing it up is actually not as difficult a job as the tediousness of maintaining it in FA quality. There are not enough experienced editors patrolling the article to fix or revert the edits made by the numerous anonymous and inexperienced editors. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I think the article is at least an A-class article. Can I get another independent reviewer to validate that? Tavatar (talk) 16:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions

There's proposed changes to Wikipedia:Naming conventions that affect Chinese related articles... see the talk page. 76.66.196.139 (talk) 04:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The Chinese section addressed issues with mainland China article, but I'm still a little be confuse about Hong Kong articles names. For example, based the convention, Choi Uk Tsuen should be renamed as Choi Uk Village? Because the term Tsuen translates into 村 in Chinese which is a Placename used for Village in Hong Kong. Tavatar (talk) 16:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Update To-do List?

I noticed the to-do list in the project banner has not been updated since Sep 2008. Maybe it's time to update it? Perhaps moving away from MTR since there's another project specialized in Transportation (WP:HKT) already? Or expand the current list such as adding reliable references to all of the MTR pages? Tavatar (talk) 16:22, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I think moving the MTR notice to WP:HKT todo is a good idea. 76.66.197.30 (talk) 04:49, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

New WP:CHINA taskforce

A task force has been proposed for WP:CHINA that would cover the Pearl River Delta, outside of HK and Macau, or including them, or instead, a TF for the whole of Guangdong. Please see WT:CHINA for the discussion. 76.66.197.30 (talk) 15:42, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Private housing estates in Hong Kong

Well, we've had a rather useful discussion above bout public housing in Hong Kong, now it seems necessary to start one on private housing estates in Hong Kong. I initiated a couple of AfDs, which provoked this response from the serial creator of some of these articles, most of which sourced only from the developers' websites or the listing website gohome. I believe more or less the same rationales for public estates apply to private ones, except that property developers are wont to spend millions hyping each launch, hiring Miss Universe and the like, and taking over newspapers' front pages. But the ads all have the same look and feel, and most of the estates fade into the background like those which have gone before after the initial burst of publicity,. While there may be those which may be notable in their own right (e.g. The Arch (Hong Kong), The Cullinan Towers), I reckon that most ought to be deleted, or best-case merged per WP:LOCAL, like I did for Central Park and Florient Rise. Please discuss. Ohconfucius (talk) 05:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

All three of the nominees are stub quality articles, I'm all for reducing the amount of stub class articles, but I'm not a big fan of removing information completely. So I think the best course of action is to merge these stubs into a common location such as Private housing in Ma On Shan, Private housing in Sha Tin, etc... If anyone decided to expand them further in the future, then do so in the new common locations. If by any chance, the new common locations somehow included too much information in the future, then we can divide up the estates into their own articles with links from the common location. Tavatar (talk) 17:10, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

It looks like consenus has been reached for the other two articles:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vista Paradiso
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Man Lai Court
The current recommended merge location is Monte Vista (Hong Kong). Let's open up the discussion for other possible merge locations. Tavatar (talk) 19:56, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Article alerts

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New article

• Early Light International (Holdings) Ltd. - this is the world's largest toy manufacturer in whose Guangdong factory occurred the deadly ethnic brawl in July 2009. It was also involved in the Mattel toy recall in 2007. Ohconfucius (talk) 04:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
• 39 Conduit Road Hit the headlines as being the building where the most expensive apartment in the world is situated. Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 07:16, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Assessment discussion

I started an assessment redefining discussion over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hong Kong/Assessment, please feel free to add your thoughts to the pool if you have been helping out with assessment on articles related to Hong Kong. Tavatar (talk) 17:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

University project

A university project is currently underway, working at the creation/ development of articles related to Hong Kong Heritage. Not sure about the date of the end of the project. For a list of articles, see User:Fuzheado/jmsc0101. olivier (talk) 09:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

• Great choice of subjects, and some very nice articles being created! Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 04:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Navigational template for museums in HK?

Does anybody think it might be useful to create a navigational template for museums in HK? Here's a list of HK's museums. Category:Museums in Hong Kong. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:25, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Someone will probably delete it. There is no relation between these museums other than all being in HK. Benjwong (talk) 03:06, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Hong Kong action cinema

Hello crew! The Hong Kong action cinema article related to this project has been nominated for Feartured Article removal. If you have comments regarding the FA review, discuss it on the review page. Cheers! Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:00, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow that article has a lot of unreferenced info. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:07, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Woah, I couldn't agree more, it defintely needs more WP:V. I compared the current version with the promoted version 3 years ago. Nothing seems to be changed except for the need citation tags. It makes me wonder how the old version got promoted in the first place. (Maybe the requirements were less strict back then?) Tavatar (talk) 04:37, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Hong Kong people's naming convention

Since there had been a naming dispute sparked recently in here. This was the first attempt to discuss and get some consensus on this ongoing naming issue rather than just heading straight into edit wars without saying anything.

I would like to get everyone's opinion and interpretation on WP:NC-ZH#General principle. The way I read it is that if someone has an English name, use this format -> English-first-name Chinese-last-name <-.... If not, use the standard -> Chinese-last-name Chinese-first-name <- format. Tavatar (talk) 13:47, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

If someone has a particular English name that is most commonly used in English media, use that, regardless of format - i.e. "Confucius". Otherwise, romanise the person's Chinese name with the surname appearing first, which in some cases may actually be the most common way a person's name appears in English media. I'm not going to participate in a Patrick Tse naming discussion, but what needs to be established is, what is more common, "Patrick Tse" or "Patrick Tse Yin"? Or something else even? In other words, it's not really about what is the "correct" format. It's about what is the most commonly used. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it here. I thought the convention/consensus was sufficiently clear, and I didn't want it to become a dispute. And it's not, AFAICT. I also reverted a premature close of the discussion. It hasn't had the full 15 days' discussion, let alone 30. Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 03:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I remember starting a similar discussion a few years ago and it ended in the middle of nowhere. I hope we can go a bit further this time. It looks like WP:NC-ZH does not clearly cover the case of Patrick Tse, and it would be very nice to find a consensus that could be added to the naming conventions. I also believe that Hong Kong names can be considered as a separate entity and that a specific convention can be used for these names. The logic being: common use of Cantonese romanisation in names and frequent existence of an English first name. This combination is HK-specific. Overseas Chinese communities may or may not have a Cantonese romanised name, which creates a separate case. olivier (talk) 09:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Here's the discussion I found in the WP:NC-ZH's talk page archives, WT:Naming conventions (Chinese)/Names#Hong Kong people's name. This happened four years ago without much consensus. I'm in favor of renewing the talk in the main WT:NC-CHINA page to get some baselines written out on the main WP:NC-ZH page, which will avoid any future confusions. Tavatar (talk) 04:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Keep in mind that, like I said, we should be using what is the most common naming in our sources, if that can be determined. WP:COMMONNAME is a policy, while WP:Naming conventions (Chinese) is only a guideline, which means it is only advisory. That means using the common name should override what's in WP:Naming conventions (Chinese), even if it breaks some pattern that was agreed to over there. (See Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines for the difference between the strength of a policy and a guideline) Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 14:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable to me. olivier (talk) 15:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Keep in mind that while NC(China) is for China, Hong Kong is officially an English speaking locality and thus qualifies under WP:ENGVAR for local English usage. China does not, since it's not an English speaking locality. 65.94.252.195 (talk) 05:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps we should draft a set a guidelines just for editing purpose on biographies related to Hong Kong? It will be based off the consensus from the members of this project. Tavatar (talk) 06:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Raymon Harry Anning

Greetings!

I am recently reading and improving articles regarding the Commissioners of Police. I would like to raise your attention to Tang King Shing and Lee Ming-Kwai and see if they can be model pages for articles like Li Kwan Ha, Hui Ki On and Tsang Yam Pui.

Also, I would like to inform you that I will start writing Raymon Anning (顏理國), the last British Commissioner of the RHKP and the predecessor of Li Kwan Ha. I will invite you to peer review soon. Nxn 0405 chl 17:34, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Lee Ming-Kwai definitely needs a lot more sources. Plus, I think generally biographical articles do not title sections as "Biography", because technically the entire article is a biography. But I don't think there's a policy against it. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:18, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I am working on Raymon Anning now and I have a problem on copyright. Please help think of the fair-use rationale of this photo of Ray Anning. It is from Offbeat, the magazine of HKP. Thank you! Nxn 0405 chl 11:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I worked on Tang King Shing a little bit awhile ago when I tried to fix everyone on the precedence list. I can help out with fixing the s-box in the pages mentioned. I found that the Chinese version of Wikipedia has a lot more information that could be translated over to the English side, but the main problem seems to be citing the information and finding reliable sources. Tavatar (talk) 17:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Cantonese

Cantonese is up for renaming again. This time, the request is to move Canton dialect to Cantonese and move the dab page that is sitting there now to Cantonese (disambiguation). (A few months ago, the issue was the unrequested move of Cantonese to Yue, which now sits at Cantonese (Yue)... so this move would replace one kind of Cantonese (moved away earlier this year) with another kind of Cantonese (the current request), both linguistically based, and not the same concept).

The discussion is occurring at Talk:Canton dialect

76.66.197.2 (talk) 06:17, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

This is obviously an issue of some interest to many involved in Hong Kong issues. The question is, why hasn't user 76.66.197.2 been contributing to the extensive debate at that talk page? Posting "alerts" on this page are fine, but not if the purpose is to sit back until the discussion is virtually over and then go in and disrupt the final vote. Editors, even anonymous editors, should be expected to contribute a bit more to the formation of Wikipedia articles than sudden opposing votes. Bathrobe (talk) 10:20, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I have been contributing, to Cantonese (Yue), which is what the title Cantonese used to contain. I paritcipated in various debates, the recent RfC, several of the renaming debates over SEVERAL YEARS on the issue. You should remember that most IP users have rotating IP addresses. 76.66.197.2 (talk) 04:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

So you have contributed in the past and are using rotating IP addresses. Your most recent comment at Canton dialect indicates that you have come in without reading recent discussions. Perhaps you should consider getting a handle. Discussion is a reciprocal process and becomes rather difficult if one participant is a shifting shape.Bathrobe (talk) 05:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I thought this issue got resolved when we renamed Yue Chinese to Cantonese (Yue)... Tavatar (talk) 22:16, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Major cities of Greater China

See here, if you have any opinion on the matter. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 23:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Requested move of PARKnSHOP

Comments appreciated at Talk:PARKnSHOP#Requested move. Thanks, cab (talk) 03:58, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Template:Cantonese-tiyjp

{{Cantonese-tiyjp}} has been nominated for deletion. 70.29.211.138 (talk) 05:41, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Cantonese (Yue)

Cantonese (Yue) has a new poll on what to call the article (yet again). See Talk:Cantonese (Yue). 70.29.211.138 (talk) 05:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Commissioners of Police

Recently I have created Raymon Anning. Please feel free to place comments and see whether we should edit articles about other CPs in the same way. Nxn 0405 chl 17:35, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

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Hong Kong orphan articles

Per the suggestion from WP:ORPHAN, I used Google to scan for orphan sites related to Hong Kong.

The search discovered about 1110 orphan articles related to this project. You may also narrow the orphan search further by adding more specific topic keyword to the search query, such as "Hong Kong government" ..., which returned only 29 results. Tvtr (talk) 14:50, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

There are some good orphan pages. Benjwong (talk) 06:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Main article nominated as FAC

Hong Kong has been nominated as an FAC.[1] I would love to see it regain it's FA status, but unfortunately in its present state, I do not think it is ready. But I do want to leave a note here in case anybody is interested in putting in the time to improve it and take it back to FA status. The FAC was filed by a new editor (assuming this is his/her first username) who has barely touched the article at all. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:55, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Hong Kong Amateur Radio Transmitting Society

FYI, Hong Kong Amateur Radio Transmitting Society has been nominated for deletion via AfD. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 06:35, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation of Hong Kong

Pronunciation of Hong Kong was prodded for deletion. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 08:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

It has now been sent for AfD deletion. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 19:58, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Mandarin names alongside Cantonese names

I believe Mandarin pinyin names should be in articles about Hong Kong-related topics alongside Cantonese names. People reading these articles may want to know what how the Chinese names are pronounced in Mandarin, too. I figure, what's the point in only putting the Cantonese pronunciation in the article? Mandarin is, by far, the most common Chinese dialect of them all. Therefore, I believe Mandarin names should be in these particular articles alongside the Cantonese names. New World Man (talk) 03:57, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

That may be true for mainland China articles, but not Hong Kong. From WP:NC-ZH#Romanization of names:

Chinese names should be written in Hanyu Pinyin unless there is a more common romanization used in English (for example, Chiang Kai-shek, Sun Yat-sen) or when the subject of the article is likely to prefer a non-pinyin romanization as is often the case with people from Taiwan, Hong Kong, and overseas Chinese communities (for example, Lee Teng-hui, Tung Chee Hwa, Lee Kuan Yew).

Tvtr (talk) 16:13, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not talking about article titles, but rather in the text of the article (such as the name box that shows Simplified/Traditional Chinese and Romanizations such as Pinyin and Jyutping). New World Man (talk) 16:57, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

This is in relations to a discussion I had with New World Man in my talk page in regards to adding Pinyin into Hong Kong article , in this case, Cathay Pacific... (discussion attached below)

Is it wrong for the Mandarin name to be displayed alongside the Cantonese name for a Hong Kong-based company? New World Man (talk) 02:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

As Traditional Chinese (written) and Cantonese (spoken) are the de facto language of Hong Kong (refer Bilingualism in Hong Kong), it is unnecessary and inconsistent to include Mandarin name. This is the case for all Hong Kong article, if you feel so strongly about including this, please raise your issue with WikiProject Hong Kong, as such inclusion will need to be applied consistently across all Hong Kong-based company articles. Aviator006 (talk) 03:58, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Hasn't Mandarin been co-official with Cantonese in Hong Kong since 1997? New World Man (talk) 02:37, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

No. You may like to discuss your proposal to the WikiProject Hong Kong first and gain consensus first. Aviator006 (talk) 03:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I disagree with the inclusion of Pinyin - the de facto languages of Hong Kong are Tradition Chinese (written), Cantonese (spoken) and English. Should keep status quo. Aviator006 (talk) 17:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Also going for status quo. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 19:12, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Delete?

Anyone else think article Lunar New Year Fireworks Display in Hong Kong should be deleted? Benjwong (talk) 03:47, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Res ipsa loquitur (Hong Kong)

FYI, Res ipsa loquitur (Hong Kong) has been prodded for deletion. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 06:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Fight history of Bruce Lee

FYI, Fight history of Bruce Lee has been nominated for deletion via AfD.

70.29.210.242 (talk) 06:17, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

China → Chinese civilization

FYI, China has been requested to be renamed to Chinese civilziation; again.

See Talk:People's Republic of China.

70.29.210.242 (talk) 08:28, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

File:Four Great Inventions HK Stamps.jpg

FYI, Image:Four Great Inventions HK Stamps.jpg has been nominated for deletion. 70.29.210.242 (talk) 05:03, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

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thanks for pointing that out, I now revised what I wrote above. Best wishes in your editing. Okip 00:51, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Cantonese (Yue) ... again

User:Kwamikagami again unilaterally moved a Cantonese article, this time Cantonese (Yue) to Yue Chinese. Now, he's established a requested move to rename it to that name at Talk:Cantonese (Yue).

He has also been reported to ANI, see this entry

76.66.192.73 (talk) 06:48, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

RfC: Should the Five Constituencies Referendum remain independent of Hong Kong by-election, 2010‎?

My merger of Five Constituencies Referendum into Hong Kong by-election, 2010‎ is contested. An RfC has been launched at talk:Hong Kong by-election, 2010‎. Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 04:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

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Chinese character redirects being speedily deleted

See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2010 April 15

70.29.208.247 (talk) 05:03, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Hong Kong merchant ships

SS Belgian Crew has been tagged as being of interest to WP:HONGKONG. If members of this project wish to include all Hong Kong merchant ships, then Category:Ships of Hong Kong will provide more articles. Mjroots (talk) 20:57, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Opium War

FYI, Opium War has been proposed to be repurposed, see Talk:Opium War

70.29.208.247 (talk) 23:24, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Cantonese (Yue)

FYI, there is again, an RFC on the naming of the article, see Talk:Cantonese (Yue)

70.29.208.247 (talk) 08:37, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

proposed merger

The 2010 TVB corruption scandal was basically about the investigation into the actions of one man Stephen Chan Chi Wan. I propose therefore that they should be merged. Discussion here. Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 02:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Template:Location map Hong Kong Island

Hi. For those interested in Central Hong Kong buildings/landmarks I've created this new template. It should feature a map like Mandarin Oriental, Hong Kong. Please help add thes emaps to infoboxes. Thanks. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 16:00, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Photo request

Would someone mind photographing the Dragonair House, the head office of Dragonair at Hong Kong Airport? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 22:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

cursive

FYI, there is a notice on WT:CHINA about a request at WP:WikiProject Writing systems about cursive and semicursive, and grass and running styles. 70.29.208.247 (talk) 06:43, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

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Yue Chinese / Cantonese

FYI, Yue Chinese is up for renaming , this is the article on the Cantonese language. See Talk:Yue Chinese.

76.66.193.224 (talk) 03:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Joe Lee Yiu-ming & Angela Au Man Sze

FYI, Angela Au Man Sze and Joe Lee Yiu-ming have been nominated for renaming. 76.66.193.224 (talk) 06:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Category:Disambiguation pages with Chinese character titles

FYI, Category:Disambiguation pages with Chinese character titles has been nominated for deletion. 70.29.212.131 (talk) 04:26, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Revival

Anybody interested in reviving activity in this WikiProject by collaborating on a specific article to bring it to GA or FA status? Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 13:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to see a push for articles in Category:Top-importance Hong Kong articles to GA, A, or FA status. I don't think we have yet to utilize the rating in this WikiProject. Tvtr (tlk–cntrbtn) 06:10, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

To me, the A to C ratings aren't really that important because they do not require any peer reviews. Let's pick an article from that category and push it to GA. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 13:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

rating article is generally rated between GA and FA, so I would consider it above GA status. We should at least have an informal review with 2+ reviewer before assessing such rating. I think the direction for rating should be treating it as a secondary goal when pushing a GA article to FA status, such as the Hong Kong article. Or even when pushing an article directly to FA status without going through GA review. Tvtr (tlk–cntrbtn) 03:13, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

No, GA and A are distinct in a way that GA is project-wide while A is merely WikiProject-wide. You can't really compare apples with oranges. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 07:02, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Do this to get a barnstar!

Hi everyone at WPHK. I'm here to announce that I've made a request on WP:RB about Hong Kong (just worried that I can't attract HKers there). So anyways if you can give me a few pics or some info, you get a barnstar. Expires next year, so be quick! Kayau Voting IS evil 01:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Albert H. Y. Chen

Should Albert H. Y. Chen be using pinyin? 76.66.192.55 (talk) 22:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

There is also an argument on the proper naming of this page for a WP:RM. See the article's talk page. 76.66.193.119 (talk) 22:58, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Portal HK featured pictures

Not sure how many people are paying attention to Portal HK, so I thought I'd post a note here, too. We've gone without a featured picture for a couple of months. I've picked one for July, so please help pick pictures for the following months! Portal:Hong Kong/Selected picture/2010 Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 13:29, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Proposed move

There's a move proposal at Talk:History of colonial Hong Kong#Requested move. Anyone is welcome to participate. Spellcast (talk) 17:21, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Hong Kong articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Hong Kong articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback!

For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Hong Kong is up for FACR again...

The last nomination was a little premature, but I think the Hong Kong article is truly ready for FA review this time. Thanks for everyone that helped improving the article in the past 3 months! Please consider helping out through the review process by addressing any potential concerns raised or leaving helpful comments. See Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hong Kong/archive4. Cheers! Ta-Va-Tar (discuss–?) 05:45, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Our project's statistic page

I put together an article using our past assessment data at Wikipedia:WikiProject Hong Kong/Article statistics. I hope this will help some of us see a better big picture in our progress. We are still making pretty good efforts in this project. Ta-Va-Tar (discuss–?) 16:37, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing

I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:12, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Hong kong phonetic alphabet

FYI Hong kong phonetic alphabet has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.203.138 (talk) 07:11, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Non-English characters in dab page, article page, redirect page names, up for RfC

See WT:Article titles#Non-Roman characters in redirects to articles, where an RfC has been opened on the use of non-English characters in page titles for disambiguation and redirect titles (and there appears to also be discussion about article titles) 76.66.203.138 (talk) 09:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

User Kwami and Canton

Kwamikagami (talk · contribs) has now started a discussion on the use of Canton, at Wikipedia talk:Article titles ... He completely disregards the usage of Canton for the province, and says that Canton for the city is the common name in English for the city. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 08:36, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Uptown Plaza (Hong Kong)

FYI, Uptown Plaza (Hong Kong) has been prodded for deletion. 76.66.194.212 (talk) 05:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Hong Kong? PRC?

List of world's busiest container ports In this article, it stated that Hong Kong is a country of People's Republic of China and it use PRC flag. But I do not totally agree that it is a correct way to say...um...I do not say that Hong Kong is not a part of China. Just, I suggest that it is better to replace Hong Kong flag instead of PRC flag, and add "Hong Kong" before "People's Republic of China" for the reason of different systems between two region.

I apologize that I have change the article several times and I recognize that it is not a good way to enhance the discussion.

P.S. I just want to bring the problem, and I will not uphold when most people disagree with me. --Anonymous IP2 (talk) 09:01, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Pinyin in HK articles

See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(use_of_Chinese_language)#Inclusion_of_Mandarin_in_HK.2C_Macau.2C_and_overseas_Chinese-related_articles over the relavancy of Mandarin Pinyin in HK articles. 184.144.166.27 (talk) 04:32, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Carman M. Tsang

The article Carman M. Tsang has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Long-term unreferenced biography of a living person. No sources found to support the text (having searched in English and using Chinese name). Nothing useful at the article at zh.wikipedia. A search at the Cable TV Hong Kong website returns only 沒有相關資料！(No information!). Does not appear to meet the general notability guidelines.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Plad2 (talk) 20:52, 13 January 2011 (UTC) Timestamp: 20110113204926

Regional differences in the Chinese language

Regional differences in the Chinese language has been nominated for deletion. 65.93.14.196 (talk) 06:34, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Standard Chinese

Standard Mandarin has been requested to be renamed to Standard Chinese, see talk:Standard Mandarin. Doesn't HK define a standard Chinese as Cantonese? 65.93.14.196 (talk) 06:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Simplifications to written Chinese in Hong Kong

Simplifications to written Chinese in Hong Kong has been nominated for deletion. 65.93.14.196 (talk) 06:24, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Dundas Street, Hong Kong

Dundas Street, Hong Kong has been nominated for deletion. 65.93.13.210 (talk) 06:22, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Opposition to the Guangzhou-Hong Kong Express Rail Link

Opposition to the Guangzhou-Hong Kong Express Rail Link has been nominated for deletion. 65.93.13.210 (talk) 03:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

List of Category III films

List of Category III films has been nominated for deletion. 184.144.170.159 (talk) 06:23, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Copyright violation at University of Hong Kong

• I am disheartened and disgusted at how a substantial block of text about the university campus appears to have been lifted verbatim from the university's website. An alert has now been posted to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2011 January 28. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 03:03, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
  • The link you are giving is not the University website, but abouthk.com. It was updated in 2007, which is after the text from Wikipedia was inserted. Isn't it rather a website which has been copying Wikipedia? olivier (talk) 08:22, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
    • Ah, strewth! Reverse copyvio... I'll look into it.
    • Seems like you were right. I'll go and undo it. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 09:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Interwiki collaboration?

I have been working on b:History of Hong Kong for quite a while and I have done half the pre-1st Opium War parts. I'm wondering if WPHK participants could give me a hand (as I'm the only contributor to this book so far) and help write up the colonial/modern parts, as well as review the prehistoric/imperial parts I've written? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)