Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Translation task force/Newsletter/June

Do you want to be the WikiProject Medicine newsletter?

Hello, is there a reason for multiple medicical newsletters? Do you want to take over WP:PULSE? I could help with a transition or integration, and could commit to writing regularly for this newsletter. I would be happy if it were still called "Translation Newsletter", and then whatever else happened could just be in an axillary section.

The situation is that there is a half-hearted medical newsletter twice started, and no one really manages it. If it is to exist at all, I wish that the idea of WikiProject Medicine reporting could be tied to the strongest effort. This newsletter looks great, and I offer to add a bit more content to it if you like. You could take the July content for the newsletter now, if you liked. Blue Rasberry (talk) 14:00, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry for the really late reply Blue Rasberry, but the background to this newsletter is that it is part of the IEG I received, which means I've put considerably more effort into it than I would be able to do consistently with the other newsletter. The next issue is planned to go out to a wider audience, but on the other hand nothing is stopping that from being a press-release instead, and combining the newsletters. I would definitely like to work on a newsletter together with others and I think it would be much more interesting to read then as well, but I won't be able to take on the entire medical news-letter on my own (at least for now).

Whether it would be the translation newsletter or the Pulse or something else entirely I don't really mind. What do you think Jmh649? -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 08:10, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

As long as it stays fairly short, as now, can't it go as a section or supplement on the main newsletter, or the two be delivered together anyway? Wiki CRUK John (talk) 10:19, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Agree we should combine the two. I will put in some efforts. Will also try to get a little more of an international perspective. Would also be great to have a quick review of press received and articles published about our Wikipedia and medicine. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 00:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

CFCF I need these things to go forward:

• Design inherent in the newsletter which makes it evident that it is intended to exist perpetually, even beyond your project. I lose motivation if the newsletter is designed to end soon.
• Either a place in the medical letter to post content from the other newsletter, or leave for me to insert it as I like
• Your expression of comfort with me adding content of lower quality than what you are producing. I also cannot be an editor, but I can solicit community reports and ask people to contribute. If I do this, the entire paper will have less polish than it does now.

The idea of a regular medical newsletter is new. No one is ready to write about more than one aspect of medicine (you are doing translation, individuals others also might report one thing), and no one is agreeing to edit it entirety. There will be trouble if we try to combine these efforts and I do not want to encroach upon your much nicer space unless you think it is good for you. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:39, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I think all your points are reasonable, and I'm flattered you think the newsletter looks polished. The idea with the newsletter is by and large to present information about the medical translations (which can be done as part of a larger combined newsletter), and also to report what I've been doing in my IEG. I've already started drafting a one time news-release to members of international WPs for July instead of the newsletter, and I can hopefully also post something on the Wikimedia blog in the future. I think it will be more valuable for the community to merge the newsletters, and also once the IEG runs it will be easier for me to put out smaller content updates.

I think James idea about getting a more international perspective is wonderful, and it can hopefully be a way to bring on international collaboration both with translation as well as content-creation. If you want I can take on the role of proof-reading and polishing content any lower quality content (doubtful as I don't think the Pulse is low-quality in any way) in the newsletter for the rest of 2014. Now that I have a layout it won't be to hard to appropriate it for The Pulse. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 17:12, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Additionally this could be a way to revive what LT910001 was doing on WP:ANAT with the quarterly updates. We could probably have small sections on Physiology and Anatomy covering those Wikiprojects as well.-- CFCF 🍌 (email) 17:12, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

CFCF What is the path forward? One problem that I see is that if there is one newsletter, "Translation task force/Newsletter" is not an appropriate name. I am comfortable with the newsletter being about translation and for you to report whatever you like, but I worry that if it keeps this name then it might die when your funding runs out. I have no preference at all for a name. Just calling it WikiProject Medicine/Newsletter would work. The other point that there has to actually be a merging - a place on one page which has the news. Would you really want the information from "Pulse" cut and pasted here? I do not want to encroach upon your project and what you are reporting, but it would seem out of place if this is the designated translation report to have all kinds of other news here and even invite other people to report things also. I know that you have stakeholders to which to report. If it helps you and if you like the idea, then feel free to say that you were a founder of the WP MED newsletter rather than the specific translation newsletter, and even feel no obligation to do anything beyond what you are doing. But at least if there is to be other reporting it should go somewhere.

Where does the content in Pulse meet this content? Do they meet? Is it on this page with a cut and paste? Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:35, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm happy to go with The Pulse and I started sketching up a layout for the August newsletter [1]. Honestly the report section can probably be covered in a larger news-letter as a sub-section (and if it can't it won't be a problem for me to solve another venue for that), and if I'm able to reach a larger readership through the Pulse I'm very happy with that. As long as a significant section can be devoted to the translation project then I feel it's a win-win, so let's go with the Pulse. -- CFCF 🍌 (email) 18:44, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

News

Can we add a link to the Wikimania event page, which also lists Wikimania presentations of medical interest? Or can I add this? Wiki CRUK John (talk) 10:19, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes you can add this. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 00:06, 15 July 2014 (UTC)