Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tasmania/Archive 2

Archive 1

Archive 2

Climbing Guides or Encyclopediac entries

Considerable amounts of the mountain and walking track articles for Tasmania read more like ad hoc notes on walking and climbing than actually being what they should be - entries in an encyclopedia - lack of any refs of any sorts and very sloppy tone/writing - any help to clean em up would be appreciated SatuSuro 00:57, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Dubious

Possibly copyvio art needs further attention - Levendale, Tasmania - apart from lack of tone it reads like a copy SatuSuro 06:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe a copyvio, or perhaps someone involved in the local history group. There is a campaign to revitalize the area and attract people to settle there, being led by author Rachel Treasure, so this article could have been an enthusiastic contribution by a local. I have added some recent info and refs, a very brief introduction, headings and deleted the old categories which were patently incorrect and added appropriate ones. The article still needs work and large parts of it might still be copyvio from a local printed history.--Takver (talk) 00:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

More on this - the original contributor was a user called Sue Atkinson (Contributions). This Australian Story article from the ABC says she has worked at Levendale Primary and set up a history group to record the history of the Levendale and Woodsdale areas. The original contribution may not be copyvio, but without references might be problematic as original research.--Takver (talk) 00:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Page heading

I believe that the heading and page title 'Tasmania' although very acurate could be better described by adding Australia to the heading, and example is Victorias page. I think that this gives better understanding at a glance of where Tasmanaia is when looking at it in the wiki searc results. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rorymac (talk • contribs) 23:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Hobart/Tasmania fire articles merge

Any project users around? - there is a merge that I feel needs to be discussed. Hobart 1967 Fires and Tasmania fire articles. SatuSuro 10:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Tasmania

Is it just me, or does anybody else feel the WikiProject Tasmania page needs a clean up, and perhaps some more leadership in terms of what needs to be done. The 'Tasmania-related articles - to create and expand' section for example doesn't seem to have been touched for some time. Most of the article requests have been done, at least as stubs - so perhaps these need to be reviewed, and either listed as stubs/starts that need upgrading, or articles to be refines for GA/FA status?

Some of the redlinks, such as Trafalgar Centre seem to have been redlinks forever... Is anybody going to write this? Is it still considered worthwhile?

Also, are all members still contributing to Tasmanian related articles? If not maybe we should have the member list in two sections, active, and inactive but interested in Tasmania - simply for the sack of collaboration?

Just ideas, alternative ideas, thoughts, discussions welcome. Just wanting to breath some new live in as Wikiproject Tasmania seems to have slowed down a bit recently. Robert Fleming (talk) 14:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Please go ahead - anything to breathe life back - the low level of the project activity doesnt mean that we need that many hands on deck - just a few should be enough to get things floating again so to speak SatuSuro 14:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Project seems to be looking OK at the moment. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 10:07, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Banner

Can anybody tell me why the contents list insists on sitting above my new flashy banner?? I have tried repositioning everything, and it will not go below... Robert Fleming (talk) 12:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

New Layout

Any feedback re my new layout? Any objections, or alternative ideas?? Did I miss something you would like to see included? Or remove something you think needs re-including??

I have chosen the colours based upon Tasmania's traditional sporting colours of red, yellow and green, but if Tasmanian wikiproject participants don't like the colour layout it can be changed?? Robert Fleming (talk) 15:36, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Afd Tasmania articles

Greetings oh slumbering project - The Brink and Ben Waterworth are up to questioning - arise - now is your chance to speak for the tas project! anyone? SatuSuro 02:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Request photo tags

Hi, whoever might read this a non project editor has tagged a large number of tasmanian articles requesting photos - please ignore as I do not believe that the editor has either AGF or any understnding of the low level of activity on this project SatuSuro 00:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't think the photo tags are a big problem - I'm sure most will be ignored, but it doesn't hurt to have them there - there are bound to be people reading the talk pages who don't look at the proj page.. Speaking of which, I notice Melaleuca, Tasmania was one of the pages tagged - I assume very few people have been there, I don't suppose you have a suitable pic SatuSuro? -- Chuq (talk) 00:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Cripes - this is cause for celebration - possibly the first time in at least a year that two talk items have appeared in this page on the same day, cripes its hard to cope with - usually I wait for six months to get reply on some article pages. In response to your question - not yet in my own collection - but there might be some public domain shots elsewhere - and heaps of people have been there btw SatuSuro 01:02, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it is a bit of a shock isn't it! My watchlist is so long I usually only look for changes in the last 1 day, and often I'll go more than a week without checking it. "Heaps" is relative, I'd say of all the Tassie locations we have it is the least visited and definitely the least permanently-populated :) -- Chuq (talk) 05:10, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough :) - viz=

In 2000, an estimated 4,000-5,000 people visited the Melaleuca – Port Davey area. Between 3,000 and 4,000 of these flew into Melaleuca, while 500 walked in. The remainder arrived by sea. Private records of plane landings at Melaleuca were kept prior to 1992 by Deny King. Since 1992, public data show total landings have varied between 700 and 1,100 annually, with 60-70% of the annual total during the months January- May. According to the OBP volunteers, 13 planes landed on the busiest day during summer 2001. Of the people arriving by plane on commercial tours (estimated at 2,000- 3,000), the majority are on half-day scenic flights that include a two-hour ground and boat tour of Melaleuca

I can think of parts of central higlands and we(s)t coast that dont get that number :) SatuSuro 05:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

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So what did that actually mean ? (asking the sleeping cat in the corner - will it wake before 20th October?)

• Tasmania (talk) Tasmania B Top 4,221 63 50,970 1,610 1,910
• Hobart (talk) Tasmania B Top 1,623 48 19,560 1,518 1,818
• Tasmanian_Devil (talk) Tasmania FA High 208 28 41,880 1,287 1,787
• Thylacine (talk) Tasmania FA High 152 30 51,870 1,286 1,786
• Launceston,_Tasmania (talk)Tasmania B Top 709 13 5,940 1,315 1,615
• Errol_Flynn (talk) Tasmania C Unknown 406 43 44,430 1,202 1,427
• Bass_Strait (talk) Tasmania Start High 481 26 2,940 1,258 1,408
• Joseph_Lyons (talk) Tasmania B Mid 225 9 1,530 996 1,296
• Burnie,_Tasmania (talk) Tasmania B High 153 4 1,590 992 1,292
• Tasmanian_Aborigines (talk) Tasmania Start High 157 10 6,060 1,121 1,271

Almost 0000.0001% of Tasmanian article have actually been assessed for the project itself and as the project is as active as sensible comments about the Hobart docks crisis - so presuming there is a comment somewhere in the next three month - thats what they get. IMHO I believe the lack of anything to do with tourism or national parks or south west or central highlands and the inclusion of the endlessly vandalised Tasmanian Aborigines, Tasmanian Devil and Thylacine articles just shows what you get when your project goes quiet and lacks any impetus.

My suggestion to the sleeping cat is that Burnie and Errol Flynn go out and Franklin Gordon Nat Park and Cradle Lake St Clair Nat Park arts replace them. Forget the pollies and Gunns - dead issues and hardly anything positive ever comes from them SatuSuro 03:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

ISSUE

Almost all Hydro power station stubs which have limited WP:RS in the first place and usually use the Hydro web site for the only semblance of WP:V or WP:N are now dead links (ahh the Hydro forever trying to hide their tracks) - anyone interested in helping finding activ links or even better alternative WP:RS? I dont expect to hear from anyone before christmas on this highly active noticboard btw :) SatuSuro 03:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Current candidates for how embarrassing

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorina_Power_Station SatuSuro 04:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Image needs replacement - Cascade Brewery

Hello all...

An image used in the article, specifically Image:Snowonmountain.JPG, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.

You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 13:08, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

• Might try to to soon, probably after exams Noodle snacks (talk) 10:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Ringarooma, Tasmania

Created this while working on something else - was surprised it was redlinked, so rectified. However it's rather basic - anyone who wishes to fix it up, feel free. Orderinchaos 15:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

2009 possible project issue

Please for those who venture here consider putting some time and assessing articles included in this project with Tasmania-importance= in the tag on the talk page of articles. It would help keep things more assessable if it was possible. Hello to those who read this all one of you when you read it in May 2009 :( SatuSuro 05:08, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Haha well we are a bit slow here in Tassie. :) Aaroncrick (talk) 03:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Look at that! 6 days later not months! The issue is that most articles in the project might have Tasmania=yes, but the addition of Tasmania-importance=low (or higher for few I'd guess) would be a way for some to help the project from its somnolent slumber in the slow summer days before the next snow storm SatuSuro 03:47, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Not much much of Summer down here in Launny. Only been about 22c on average this month. Cold for summer!

I'm envious! It's been mid-high 30s every day here (Perth) for weeks until yesterday. Orderinchaos 08:57, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

How come my name isn't showing up in the Wiki Project Tasmania members? =S Aaroncrick (talk) 03:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I've rated a few articles in case anyone who reads this early next year cares. Aaroncrick (talk) 04:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the layout template, it was pointing to the wrong page hence why updates to participants weren't working. Thanks for pointing it out so it could be fixed :) Orderinchaos 05:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Meetup/Hobart, Jan 19th

Hi all,

We're planning a bit of a meetup on January 19th, coinciding with the Linux.conf.au conference. Please check out the details at Wikipedia:Meetup/Hobart - it would be great to see just how many Hobartian editors we have :)

cheers, pfctdayelise (talk) 06:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Good luck to you - if a close look at most tas participants contribs pages - they all last edited last year or earlier - or are not near enough (London, Perth, WA etc). Maybe you could drum up some interest to get people involved :) - if any of the visitors are involved in wikimedia oz - maybe the usually news starved local rags/media could actually be interested in visiting wikipedians - might be a way to awake the slumbering giant of wikipedia tas ... :) SatuSuro 06:13, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

• I'd probably consider showing up, but I will be on Bruny Island birding at the time. Noodle snacks (talk) 07:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Categories

Please note that in many Tasmanian articles - parent and child categories sit side by side - there is no need for such duplication and if anyone has issue with my removing please note that here

• Example - a category x is a sub category of 'Geography of Tasmania' - and yet Geography of Tasmania is there as well - please help by cleaning up if you see such an example.

Thanks SatuSuro 23:43, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

5 Good Articles

Lets try and get 5 GA by the end of 2009! York Park (currently nominated), Launceston (currently nominated) and City of Clarence (article needs more refs) are all fairly close. Aaroncrick (Tassie Talk) 02:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

York Park

To anyone who may eventually read this, York Park could soon become the projects first GA. Aaroncrick (Tassie Talk) 12:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

York Park is now a GA. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie talk)} 08:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

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I'll be going through articles, to see if I can quickly clean them up. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 10:35, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

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Link problem: The article Tasmanian Football League has a link to "Tasmanian Football Legends". The link goes to a site about American football and has nothing to do with Tasmanian football, whether relating to legends or otherwise. Bzw99 (talk) 04:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)bzw99

Can anyone help? Satu maybe? Sorry Bzw99 we're a bit slow here. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:30, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry Bzw99 all fixed now and thanks for picking that up. Looks like the Tasmanian Football League art needs a cleanup. Aaroncrick^{(Tassie Boy talk)} 08:38, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Russian ship mortars at barracks in Hobart

I am currently working on an article on Australia-Russia relations, and I am including some information about the 1870 visit of the Boyarin to Hobart. One of the sources I am using mentions that the ship crews gave to the city two mortars from the ship, and that these mortars still stand at the entrance of the "Hobart Barracks". Can a project member possibly tell me which barracks these may be? Would they be the Anglesea Barracks, Hobart by any chance? I would like to be accurate within the article, and would obviously like to include the correct barracks in the article. Any assistance in answering this question is appreciated. I am cross-posting this query at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/Australian military history task force and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tasmania in order to get the, hopefully, quickest possible reply. Cheers, --Russavia ^Dialogue 09:44, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

• There are a couple of mortars sitting out the front of Anglesea Barracks. One on google street view and the other. I couldn't tell you if they are the Russian ones or not though. Noodle snacks (talk) 10:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Maybe the two shown in this photo are those in question. Melburnian (talk) 12:36, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks I believe this is the mortars in the photo. I'll maybe just call the barracks and find out directly 100% from them. Cheers--Russavia ^Dialogue 20:50, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Cascade Brewery

High importance and a landmark, ... allegedly. cygnis insignis 23:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Considerable number of Tasmanian politicians and ex politicans as red links

(disclaimer - some might have slipped the lists by having full names on their articles)_

Anyone? A few have passed on but some seem to still be rattling the can for public attention one way or other and considering the amount of time some put in they must have got something like some super of some sort....

A random sample - and no particular order (yet)

• Michael Barnard Labor (minister 72-82)
• Max Bingham Liberal (attorney-general 69-72, opp leader 72-79, deputy premier 82-?)
• Dr Julian Amos Labor (minister for energy, supporter of Franklin scheme)
• Andrew Lohrey Labor (min for national parks and wildlife in 79-82 term)
• John Beswick Liberal (min for primary industry, forests, sea fisheries & water resources 82-86, range of other portfolios 86-)
• Ian Braid Liberal (min for housing, construction, main roads, local govt and lands 82-86, range of other portfolios 86-)
• John Cleary Liberal (min for health & community welfare 82-86) lost seat?
• Ron Cornish Liberal (speaker, later (1988?) a minister)
• Roger Groom Liberal (minister 86-)
• Robert Mather Liberal (minister 69-72)
• Gabriel Haros Liberal
• John Devine Labor
• John Beattie Liberal
• Ray Bonney Liberal
• Max Bushby Liberal
• Carmel Holmes
• Gill James Labor
• Bill McKinnon Labor
• Graeme Page Liberal
• Peter Patmore Labor
• Geoff Pearsall Liberal
• Fran Bladel Labor
• Bill Bonde
• Bob Mainwaring

Any thoughts? Anyone? SatuSuro 14:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

If I had more time I'd definitely help out. If someone with more time than me wants to do some REALLY basic articles, this is a reasonable resource although the info provided is very very basic. I'll have a random go at one from that source alone so you can see what is possible. Anyone who "made it" (i.e. ministers, premiers/leaders, unusually attention-grabbing backbenchers) will probably have something about them in Political Chronicle which documents the politics of each 4-6 months since 1955 in each state - if you're doing one, let me know. Orderinchaos 06:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I did Pearsall just totally randomly. Orderinchaos 07:14, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Hobart coastal defences

Anyone know anything about this? As it wouldn't pass GAR because of referencing issues. Aaroncrick (talk) 12:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Federation Concert Hall

Federation Concert Hall is one of the "nationally significant venues" defined in the draft Excellence in Research for Australia specifications. It is one of only two that I can't find an article for. (see [1]) John Vandenberg ^(chat) 00:37, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I think there needs to be an article, but in conjunction with a Hotel Grand Chancellor article and I've been unable to start that as there is no article on Grand Hotels international (parent company), and there are few external sources to cite......ideas? Wiki ian 03:26, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I've got a small bit on the Chancellor in Launceston, although that doesn't really help. Aaroncrick (talk) 10:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Hotel Grand Chancellor, Launceston (the car is distracting; maybe we could photoshop it out?)

An article about the Chancellor in Launceston will help start to build the series. I have found a few sources about it too. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 15:05, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

20,000 at the Launnie hotel opening - you have to be joking! Someone with better photoshoping skills than mine perhaps? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 09:52, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Hobart GC article created, i still think any federation concert hall info should be included in this article as Grand Hotels International owns the Federation concert hall, and anyone who has been inside would recognise that both it and the hotel are one building. The Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra simply has a very long life lease of the Hall itself, when they are not using the venue, the hotel uses the space for conferences. I'm having a great deal of trouble finding references for this article, so if anyone knows of any please lend a hand. SEE ALSO: Talk:Hotel Grand Chancellor, Hobart. Cheers Wiki ian 06:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I strongly feel that the Grand Chancellor and the Concert Hall articles should be separate. The two are almost never mentioned in the context of each other. Noodle snacks (talk) 12:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

These [2][3][4][5] state the hall and the hotel in context to each other. I can see the point you make, but its only on information you hear and not fact. The fact of the matter is, the hotel and the Hall are part of the same complex, the hotel owns both, both are one building. The TSO has a long life lease on offices and the Hall itself, but ownership is retained by the hotel. The Federation Ball room was completed at the same time as the hall and is part of the new extension of the hotel, but is used for hotel purposes. The information i'm thinking you want to be seperate should be in the TSO article, as any information on the structure itself should be with the hotel. Regards Wiki ian 22:59, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

I just mean that the average reader is going to want to get information about one or the other, not both simultaneously. A person staying at the Grand Chancellor is not going to say "I'm staying at the grand chancellor and federation concert hall". Similarly an advertisement for a TSO event on ABC Classic FM is just going to mention the Federation Concert Hall as the venue. Noodle snacks (talk) 10:57, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Something mentioning the venue for an event is going to say "The federation concert hall".

The same can be said for the Federation Ballroom - the other part of that extension, never the less, they are both part of the grand chancellor and both owned by the grand chancellor. The only difference is that the TSO has leasing rights granting them priority to the Concert Hall. The fact remains that the structure itself is part of the Grand Chancellor building, and any TSO events highlighting the use of the Concert Hall should be in the TSO article. One of the main reasons the hotel built the extension (outside the government TSO funds) was to significantly expand their conference abilities, so during a big conference of people staying at the hotel, someone would be saying "We're having our meeting in the concert Hall today". I worked at that hotel for many years, and there have been many conferences held there when all the people staying at the hotel use the concert hall for meetings. Its not just used for the TSO. The Federation concert hall isn't even a stand alone facility, you have to walk into the hotel to gain access to the concert hall. As for the advertising, I hear advertisments on the Radio for Restaurants inside Hadleys, the Casino and the Grand Chancellor as venues but I dont think there is the scope to create articles for them from an advertisment. Next time you pass the Grand Chancellor, stop in and get one of their leaflets on the building. Cheers Wiki ian 11:37, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I've been to a number of TSO concerts there, and even been in the recording room for one a few years ago. Noodle snacks (talk) 11:46, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Unassessed Tasmanian articles

Is now at 1282 - I propose to get em done by christmas end of january maybe - anyone else out there not on holiday or 'out to lunch' - able to help? SatuSuro 09:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Unknown-importance you mean? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 09:30, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Cfd almost quiet as a doormouse

Hello ghostly quiet and silent project - a matter for the record - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_December_12 - Tasmanian locomotives was going to be put into something that is just being re-grouped after some decades of not existing - (historically TGR is a very odd kettle of fish) SatuSuro 15:26, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Noted. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 00:04, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Regions of Tasmania

Time has come where Regions of Tasmania needs to be created as an article with a good map - too many lead sentences with 'northern tasmania' where it might be north west, northern coastal, or north east - it will require steady going through - anyone? SatuSuro 01:37, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Is there an existing map? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 01:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Hell that was quick! yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tazziemap.png - (there are others)

what we need to do is to come to a decision here on project talk page - which local governments belong to which: -

• North-western Tasmania
• North-coastal Tasmania
• North-eastern Tasmania

and whether there are other terms used (apart from Lonnie and north-coasters) which need to be considered SatuSuro 01:48, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Good luck getting someone else to respond. Isn't George Town part of greater Launceston? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 01:50, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Luck? havent seen anyone else here in a lifetime mate :) - also that link to georgetown was telling :( SatuSuro 01:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

In terms of local government - [6] says "Northern Tasmania" is Launceston, George Town, West Tamar, Meander Valley, Break o'Day, Dorset, Northern Midlands and Flinders. This is exactly the same as ABS's "Northern" area. Cradle Coast Authority claims to represent Burnie, Central Coast, Circular Head, Devonport, Kentish, King Island, Latrobe, Waratah-Wynyard and West Coast. This is the same as ABS's "Mersey-Lyell" area. Southern Tasmanian Councils Authority represents the rest. This combines ABS's "Greater Hobart" (Brighton, Clarence, Glenorchy, Hobart and parts of Sorell, Kingborough and Derwent Valley) and "Southern". I don't know if this helps. Orderinchaos 02:09, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and "Greater Launceston" ABS subdivision includes Launceston and parts of Northern Midlands, Meander Valley, West Tamar and George Town. Orderinchaos 02:10, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Stupid, that's how our population gets to over 100,000. George Town is 50k away! Don't really want those bogans classed as part of Launnie - suppose we have Ravo and the whole East Tamar.. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 03:00, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much - that certainly takes the sting out of the research into how to create a regions article! SatuSuro 02:14, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Actually on closer examination it is as almost as simple as the changing electoral areas in tasmania over time - a challenge! Not straight forward in the end after all SatuSuro 02:23, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I might only post here once a year, but I just thought I'd point out that I was doing some "research" a few years back (2006!) at User:Chuq/Sandbox/NWC. Basically testing which articles existed (if any) and for ones which didn't, how many "redlinks" pointed to which names. I think I got all possible variations on "Northwest Tasmania". Feel free to use as a basis for further article title decisions. -- Chuq (talk) 02:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Following all this I have created Northern Tasmania and Category:North East Tasmania - with Northern Tasmania having Tamar Valley and Launcceston as sub categories Also User Crusoe8181 has added pushpin maps to many town/loccality articles and they really help quite brilliantly the sense of the regional context SatuSuro 00:10, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

And as if regions do not exist - we also have Template:Local Government Areas of Tasmania - which groups into areas and does not even acknowledge the existence of the east coast as an area or region!SatuSuro 00:22, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

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• Moorina_Power_Station - two years no refs SatuSuro 00:04, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I found a reference....however the article is a mess and may need an entire re-write. Wiki ian 01:23, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Hobart suburbs

1) In List of Hobart suburbs I have indented a number of places which have articles but are not actually suburbs of Hobart, see Tas. places list[7] and Aust. places list [8] and the various council websites. So, are we all happy with this, and should there be a merge of these into the relevant suburb articles??

2) The nav. template for Hobart suburbs retains the locs. of South Arm Peninsula (Opossum Bay, Clifton Beach, Cremorne & Sandford) and also Seven Mile Beach, Midway Point and Sorell to the east. Any complaint about these being removed as they would appear on most definitions as being outside the metropolitan area?? (Crusoe8181 (talk) 05:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)).

Re 1 - that echoes what the other communities have done around Australia (merging into parent articles) so I think that's fair enough. Re 2 - Seems reasonable - none of these are really metropolitan at all. Orderinchaos 08:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Merging some of these suburbs is a good idea, but these other areas you propose to remove from the template are part of the greater area of Hobart and therefor should remain on the template under it current lay out. If anything there should be more areas added like New Norfolk. If you google "greater area of hobart" or "hobart greater area" searching government websites, they will confirm this. see also: [9][10][11][12][13][14]
CheersWiki ian 09:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

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Tasmania law ?? - I would have thought the appropriate usage would be Tasmanian? any one still around this quiet place? SatuSuro 15:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I guess so... Aaroncrick ^TALK 22:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Apart from the lonnie cricket hero that is :| SatuSuro 23:12, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Has Ian gone walkabouts? Aaroncrick ^TALK 23:23, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Dunno - seems to have small bits here and there SatuSuro 23:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I feel that I have nothing to contribute at this point in time :( Wiki ian 12:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

 Done http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_September_8#Category:Tasmania_law SatuSuro 23:28, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

No final moves has been taken ( a sockpuppet even made comment on the issue )

What is worse is we even have a Category:Tasmania society - it is disconcerting that has not been challenged SatuSuro 13:00, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

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An Afd for Tassie

FYI oh silent project and all http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_places_in_Tasmania_by_population#List_of_places_in_Tasmania_by_population SatuSuro 15:38, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

This getting annoying now - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_places_in_Tasmania_by_population_(2nd_nomination)#List_of_places_in_Tasmania_by_population - not a single editor from Tas project in sight - and a second one SatuSuro 04:42, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

TAFE Tasmania

With the very best of intentions, Swatral (talk · contribs) has removed a lot of information from TAFE Tasmania, which needs to be restored, but we first need to work out what topics should be covered by which articles. There are quite a few organisations in the history of the TAFE system down there, and not much on Wikipedia about them. We definitely need an article at Tasmanian Polytechnic, but maybe we should move TAFE Tasmania to the new name. I think someone more familiar with TAFE in Tas should weigh in on how many articles we need. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 07:18, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

I disagree that it needs to be restored. Firstly, the article has been stable for just over a year (although is not without its faults) with the information removed. Most of it was wilfully promotional and unsourced, and includes several copyright violations (see e.g. [15] and [16]). Examples:

• "and delivers vocational education and training at an international standard."
• "Drysdale also has a close relationship with the hospitality and tourism industries, and is able to offer an exciting range of career opportunities to anyone interested."
• "TAFE Tasmania has recorded the highest number of enrollments undertaken as part of a Training Package and the highest number of annual hours of training delivered as part of a Training Package across the country"

and long lists of stuff which really don't belong in an article. Much of the content claims to be sourced from the institution itself, although several of the links are broken. These sorts of problems seem to extend to other articles on the Tasmanian education sector, such as Tasmania Tomorrow (the now-abandoned scheme to reform upper secondary and tertiary education). On the issue of articles, the answer would depend on whether the Polytechnic actually replaces the TAFE, or whether the TAFE was effectively part of a merger to form the Polytechnic - if the latter, then the TAFE article should be maintained as that of a historic entity. Orderinchaos 18:03, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

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Cfr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_January_8#Category:Tasmanian_Wilderness_issues_and_politics SatuSuro 06:53, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

BCOT

Hey guys. A second opionion is needed here Cheers. Uhlan (talk) 22:20, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Oh so silent project...

anyone there? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_board - SatuSuro 07:55, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Hobart meetup

I'm not sure if anyone is reading this - but in case you are - there is a Wikipedia Hobart meetup happening on September 8th. For further details, see the box on the right! -- Chuq (talk) 02:34, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Australian Roads

Hi folks - anyone with any interest - there is a new Australian project Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian Roads - please have a look. sats 02:02, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

This still alive?

Is this wikiproject still alive JTdale ^Talk 11:39, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Certainly is. Quite a few active users still editing article's about Tasmania. Any discussion though happens on the main noticeboard Wikipedia:Australian Wikipedians' notice board, though the Tasmania project pages have been quiet. - Peripitus (Talk) 11:55, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Ah interesting. I will refer to there I guess. JTdale ^Talk 12:09, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

THe project has its quiet moments and not all current eds are aware of this noticeboard. The Australian noticeboard can get filled with things of tangential issues as well - well worth checking on things here first satusuro 10:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Archer family

I am working on the page Archer family, but there's a lot of work to go. If anyone can help out, I'd be grateful. Just covering the -notable members is a job; I think there were between 7-9 members of the family in the Legislative Council and one in the House of Representatives. Not to mention the 8 or so mansions they built. Just thought I'd mention it. JTdale ^Talk 12:16, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Do you know if John Archer, builder of the first mill at Carrick, or his son John Kinder Archer, are close relatives ? I've found in reading local Tasmanian history, that due to family sizes, the same names appear everywhere, often confusing me. - Peripitus (Talk) 21:12, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Presuming John Archer was the man who built Archer's Folly, not relatives. I found an article' 1 "Not to be mistaken as a descendant of the Archer dynasty, John Kinder Archer was the son of John Archer, a miller from Ware in England."

And I have the same issue! Archer is a really common name as well, so not only is there half a dozen Archer's of this Archer family with the same names (almost 80% of the members were called Edward, William, Thomas or Joseph), there are unrelated Archer's to weed out. I'm presently trying to determine if the Thomas Archer who murdered his family at Don, Launceston was a member or not; references are conflicting on that point. Some say he was an adopted member and some don't mention parentage, which I'd think they would have given it was such an atrocious crime and the Archers of Woolmers and Brickendon were still extremely prominent in the era. JTdale ^Talk 08:19, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

The lack of creativity for first names is much cause for confusion. Thomas Reibey who named his son Thomas who, for variety, named a son Thomas. - Peripitus (Talk) 09:51, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Constant problem for genealogists - west coast graveyard searching uncovers similar problems... good to see a discussion at this usually silent talk page - best of luck both of you with your endeavours... satusuro 10:02, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Satusuro.

The other one I'm trying to work out is it Elise Archer, the MP, is any relation (well, it'd be her husband who is related). Unlikely but it'd be interesting to find out JTdale ^Talk 19:23, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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Kettering cleanup?

With the upcoming TV series The Kettering Incident going to be broadcast worldwide next year, I think we can expect a ton more traffic to Kettering, Tasmania. I was wondering if we could get a team together to work on cleaning up, improving, referencing and expanding the Kettering article over the next 6 months. Thoughts? JTdale ^Talk 07:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

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Are we all awake?

Hi everyone - just a bit of a roll call to see who is about and active? I'm thinking of another Hobart meetup, possibly during Dec/Jan while people are off work/uni and those who have moved interstate may be back visiting? Maybe to line up with Wikipedia Day - anyone interested? -- Chuq (talk) 21:47, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Chuq - if only I could, the time to either ride a bike or, sail a boat from where I am, might just miss the meetup... satusuro 23:46, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

Start riding now satusuro, you might make it in time! -- Chuq (talk) 01:26, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

May I have your attention (Chuq—satusuro)... I doubt I am classed as a fully active editor at present. Are semi active editors welcome? Wiki ian 07:34, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

You're definitely one of the most active Tas editors! Everyone is welcome! -- Chuq (talk) 01:26, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

I am active, but as I mentioned I make a policy of not coming I'm afraid. JT_dale^Talk~ 08:56, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

No probs at all, maybe in the future! -- Chuq (talk) 01:26, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Need image for Horton College

I really would like to get an image for my new article Horton College. Many exist but sadly, the LINC and Museum both have this weird (illegal) policy that you can't use files they catalogue, even when its an image that is actually out of copyright. It's borderline illegal but even so, I don't want to go around pissing off the state governments lawyers. I also searched Flickr and WikiCommons and no luck So, I was wondering if anyone knows of either a) historical image of the college or b) could take a photo of its ruins. The ruins are something of a landmark, so I expect anyone who lives up the Midlands would know it. It's a red brick arched doorway in the middle of a paddock by the high way. Here is a photo for reference. If anyone who lives that direction or travels the highway much would be able to help, that'd be amazing. JT_dale^Talk~ 12:31, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

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QRpedia/WikiTown Hobart

Hi all, I'm trying to arrange a meeting with Hobart City Council reps to get some QRpedia style codes happening in association with their Wayfinder project - http://www.hobartcity.com.au/Home/Council_News/Wayfinding_trial_-_have_your_say

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I'd like to offer up examples of pre-existing content. The following are a list of FA, GA or B-class articles under the WikiProject Tasmania banner, which can be linked to a physical location in the Hobart City Council area:

• FA - Thylacine - (Beaumaris Zoo gates)
• GA - Hobart coastal defences - (Alexandra Battery)
• B-class

- William Denison (Royal Engineers Building)

- Enid Campbell (Supreme Court)

- Anthony Fenn Kemp (St George's Church, Battery Pt)

- Lomatia tasmanica (Botanical Gardens)

- Charles Meredith (Queens Domain fountain)

- Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race (Constitution Dock)

There are plenty of C class articles which would be fine: Brooke Street Pier (I actually wrote this one and self rated C-class - haven't had it re-assessed), Diocese of Tasmania, Errol Flynn, Hobart Zoo, Mary, Crown Princess of Denmark, Mount Saint Canice, Francis Newdegate, North Hobart Oval, Parliament House, Hobart, Tasmanian Symphony Orchestra, Theatre Royal, Hobart, University of Tasmania, and many others - which I haven't checked if they have relevance to the HCC area or not.

While there is a good range of articles there, they are somewhat random so far as their importance goes. Of course notable places, buildings and landmarks would be good to be included, but historic figures such as David Collins, John Franklin, Abel Tasman, Robert Knopwood and Peter Degraves (who doesn't even have an article yet!) would be ideal to get up to scratch. Events would be possible too - 1967 Tasmanian bushfires at the former Springs hotel site, for example.

We don't know where the remaining wayfinder sites will be, of course - just that the council proposes "a total of 61 markers in researched locations across three distinct zones – the waterfront, inner city and outer city" by end 2015. I suggest we make a head start and identify some likely locations, some likely topics near those locations, and get the articles up to scratch.

Anyone keen to make this happen? -- Chuq (talk) 02:48, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Sounds like a great idea. As main contributor/creator of Hobart City Hall and Hobart Town Hall I'd love to get them both up to scratch anyway, but they seem like good suggestions for such a project as well. Definitely Thylacine would be great to have at Beaumaris Zoo, and others you have suggested are great. Perhaps a taskforce of WikiProject Tasmania would be a good idea? JT_dale^Talk~ 04:24, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Those sort of articles would be ideal! We probably wouldn't need a separate taskforce, this WikiProject is quiet enough that we can use this space! (If HCC give the go-ahead, we may have to consider something external as well like a mailing list, but we'll worry about that when we come to it) -- Chuq (talk) 04:58, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

As I understand taskforces, they're sub-projects of WikiProjects so we'd still be doing it under WikiProject Tasmania. And agree re: mailing list eventually if it happens. JT_dale^Talk~ 07:41, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

If done taskforce tyle you could also potentially add a tag to Template:WikiProject Australia saying this article is supported by TaskForce Hobart Wayfinder Project. Just a thought, I am far from an expert on this. I will probably focus on article editing, and let others with more experience handle the rest. JT_dale^Talk~ 07:46, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I thought it would probably be classed as a WikiTown project and would have a separate banner, similar to {{Freopedia}} - but then I had a look at Template talk:WikiProject Australia and found User:Gnangarra was trying to get them embedded in the WikiProject Australia template, so it possibly may still happen! Article editing is going to be an important part of it - and if it doesn't go ahead, is still beneficial to Wikipedia :) -- Chuq (talk) 08:43, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

just ping @Evad37: when your ready he solved the needs of Freo & Toodyay and believe its straight forward to add a new project. Gnangarra 08:59, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I've done all the hard work already by creating the meta-template {{WikiTown banner core}}. There are instructions there for setting up a new project, which is just copying code into a new template, filling in a couple of details, and creating a few categories. If you need any help, as Gnangarra says, just ping me, or leave a message on my talk page. Good luck! - Evad37 [talk] 10:58, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Excellent - congratulations to chuq for checking this out - no need for a task force of the larger project btw, the project itself is well worth exploring as it is. satusuro 09:04, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks all for the advice! Evad37, I'll use your template to set it up when it gets to that stage! -- Chuq (talk) 23:22, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

I've added a list of articles at QR list -- Chuq (talk) 06:05, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

QR List

It would be useful to know what the boundaries of the Hobart City CBD are, having been to dark mofo events outside and inside the CBD, I think the streets that constitute the boundary would be very useful satusuro 12:19, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

The boundary is the City of Hobart LGA - so goes as far as New Town/Lenah Valley in the north, Mt Wellington/Fern Tree in the west, and Mt Nelson/Lower Sandy Bay in the south - rough map here: [17] -- Chuq (talk) 12:36, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

that is very useful, as the former hobart railway station and line are no lomger there, but I can remember catching a passenger train there... (sign of age...?) - even if it no longer exists - it was an important part of cbd history while it was there. satusuro 13:00, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

The lines still go there, but the roundhouse has been demolished and is now inaccessible to the general public - in the port area by the looks of things? [18] -- Chuq (talk) 13:50, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

WikiConfererence Australia 2015 - Save the date 3-5 October 2015

Our first Australian conference for Wikipedians/Wikimedians will be held 3-5 October 2015. Organised by Wikimedia Australia, there will be a 2-day conference (Saturday 3 October and Sunday 4 October) with an optional 3rd day (Monday 5 October) for specialist topics (unconference discussions, training sessions, etc). The venue is the State Library of Queensland in Brisbane. So put those dates in your diary! Note: Monday is a public holiday is some states but not others. Read about it here: WikiConference Australia 2015

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Merge proposal

Two more or less parallel articles exist about Tasmanian forests -

• Tasmanian cool temperate rainforests
• Tasmanian temperate rain forests

They have been nominated for a merge User:JarrahTree 15:00, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Now you see them, now you don't - 2 articles due for deletion

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/List_of_people_who_have_walked_the_perimeter_of_Tasmania,_Australia
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_walked_across_Tasmania,_Australia

User:JarrahTree 11:09, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Horton College

Horton College, Mona Vale, Tasmania

I found a picture for it. I agree that it is very disappointing when libraries and archives claim copyright over digitisations of out-of-copyright works. When that happens, the place I go looking for photos is in the newspapers as pre-1955 newspapers are out of copyright. These can be found by searching Trove. In particular, when searching Trove, you can restrict the search to newspaper articles that contain an illustration (see left-side bar to search that option), e.g. [19] and then it's a manual process of looking through them until you can see an image of what you want that's usable (some are too dark or too blurry to be useful). While you don't usually get a great photo out of the newspapers, you can often get something that is "better than nothing at all" as in this case. Enjoy! Kerry (talk) 02:57, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much. That is an amazing idea. Didn't think of that! JT_dale^Talk~ 08:53, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Derwent River

This river needs a category, as there are numerous articles related to the main subject

however the problem is - the article is titled River Derwent Tasmania, most commons references to it are Derwent River.

If there are any project lurkers left here at all, suggestions as to whether to go with the tying the category to the article title, or common usage, would be of help: -

• River Derwent (Tasmania)
• Derwent River (Tasmania)
• River Derwent, Tasmania
• Derwent River, Tasmania

I had created a Derwent River Tasmania category, but considered it was a bad choice. Suggestions appreciated JarrahTree 14:31, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

My understanding of proper formating is that brackets are not used for geographical locations/features. So x, Tasmania would be most appropriate. River Derwent isn't unknown, but it seems to me most common in old sources. But I'm not sure it matters as long as the other option redirects. JT_dale^Talk~

Wikiconference Australia 2015 cancelled

Folks, just letting you know we will not be proceeding with Wikiconference Australia 2015 originally proposed for 3-5 October 2015. Thanks to those of you who expressed your support. You are free to attend the football finals instead :-) Kerry (talk) 07:54, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Lygodactylus williamsi

The Tasmanian endangered lizard Talk:Lygodactylus williamsi has no importance assessment. I want some Tasmania editor to add the right importance. There is objection to the Low importance on the talk page.--DThomsen8 (talk) 22:15, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh dear, there is a slight difference between Tanzania and Tasmania. Unlikely the very very quiet Tasmania project knows anything about Tanzanian biota JarrahTree 23:24, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

oh so quiet project

Just in case anyone has this page still on their watch list ...2016_Tasmanian_bushfires is a small stub that is trying to grapple with the issues - any local help or input always appreciated. Links to Examiner articles, Mercury articles, etc - would be appreciated, please JarrahTree 09:43, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

New 5000 Challenge for Australia

Hi, Wikipedia:WikiProject Australia/The 5000 Challenge and the wider Wikipedia:WikiProject Oceania/The 10,000 Challenge are up and running based on Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge for the UK which has currently produced over 2300 article improvements and creations. If you'd like to see large scale quality improvements happening for Australia and Oceania like The Africa Destubathon, which has produced over 1600 articles in 5 weeks, sign up on the page. The idea will be an ongoing national editathon/challenge for Australia but fuelled by a contest if desirable to really get articles on every state/territory and subject mass improved. After every 100 articles done for Australia this would feed into the main Oceania one. I will start a 1000 one for your state if there is the support. I would like some support from wikipedians here to get the Challenge off to a start anyway with some articles to make doing a Destubathon for Australia and Oceania worthwhile! Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:14, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Important meetup

An important opportunity to discover more about the Wikimedia Foundation Strategy directions, in Melbourne, at

Melbourne Meetup 33 will occur during the visit of Katherine Maher, Executive Director Wikimedia Foundation, for Melbourne Knowledge Week 1-7 May 2017

Date:Wednesday 3 May 2017 Time: 5.00-6.30pm Venue: Green Room, Multicultural Hub, Level 1, 506 Elizabeth Street Melbourne

JarrahTree 00:33, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

Also following on from the above

Join the next cycle of Wikimedia movement strategy discussions (underway until June 12)

Message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki

The Wikimedia movement strategy core team and working groups have completed reviewing the more than 1800 thematic statements we received from the first discussion. They have identified 5 themes that were consistent across all the conversations - each with their own set of sub-themes. These are not the final themes, just an initial working draft of the core concepts.

You are invited to join the online and offline discussions taking place on these 5 themes. This round of discussions will take place between now and June 12th. You can discuss as many as you like; we ask you to participate in the ones that are most (or least) important to you.

Here are the five themes, each has a page on Meta-Wiki with more information about the theme and how to participate in that theme's discussion:

• Healthy, Inclusive Communities
• The Augmented Age
• A Truly Global Movement
• The Most Respected Source of Knowledge
• Engaging in the Knowledge Ecosystem

On the movement strategy portal on Meta-Wiki, you can find more information about each of these themes, their discussions, and how to participate.

Please free to leave comments here - or at the national notice board - or - contact strategy@wikimedia.org.au

This project is still active

Despite one of the mainstays of this project for over a decade having not edited since earlier in the year, please note (to any potential project assessing editors) the project is alive and still in process - and cannot be deemed quiet or inactive - thank you JarrahTree 02:50, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

The Mercury's list of most influential people

Most (if not all) of these people should probably have articles? More for the never ending to-do list?

• 70-61: Ruth Forrest, Meg Webb, Jane Hutchinson, Tony Collidge, Susan Fahey, David Bartlett, Nick Gales, Bob Brown, Bernadette Black, George Bailey
• 60-51: Rob Auld, Peter Skillern, Brett Torossi, Phil Vickers, Royce Fairbrother, Albert van Zetten, Errol Stewart, Rob Pennicott, Brian Ritchie, Helen Richardson
• 50-41: Daryl Coates, Master Wang, Neroli Ellis, Catherine Rheinberger, Frances Bender, Ali Sultan, Melos Sulicich, Nick McKim, Julian Porteous, Julie Collins
• 40-31: Vanessa Goodwin, Richard Flanagan, Scott Bacon, Matt Groom, Michael Bailey, Saul Eslake, Kate Warner, Robert Clifford, Cassy O'Connor, Mark Ryan
• 30-21: Luke Martin, Darren Hine, Peter Gutwein, Sue Hickey, Bryan Green, Kym Goodes, Andrew Wilkie, Dale Elphinstone, Mike Grainger, Jeremy Rockliff
• 20: Robin Banks (Anti-Discrimination Commissioner)
• 19: Michael Brewster (TasWater CEO)
• 18: Heather Sculthorpe (Aboriginal Legal Centre CEO)
• 17: Tim Jacobson (HCSU secretary)
• 16: Brian Wightman (Property Council of Australia - Tas ED)
• 15: Bec White (Labor MP)
• 14: Leigh Carmichael (Dark Mofo)
• 13: Brad Stansfield (Will Hodgman Chief of Staff)
• 12: Greg Farrell (Federal)
• 11: Daniel Hanna (Federal)

(disambiguation and link checking to come...) -- Chuq (talk) 00:01, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

2017 and lurkers in Hobart who get to see the 2017 variety - please add the newer list when it is available - thank you JarrahTree 02:51, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background

On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:57, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!

A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.

– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Upcoming conference - Wikimedia Australia Community Conference, Sydney, 15 June 2019

For more information, please see Wikimedia Australia Community Conference, Sydney, 15 June 2019 JarrahTree 10:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Dual naming

Just wondering as there are a number of locations that have been officially sanctioned as dual named (in palawa kani/English), what's the process needed to change the WP pages accordingly? I see that dual naming is supported (Aoraki_/_Mount_Cook), just I'm not sure how to go about getting such a chunk of work definitively done most efficiently and correctly. I'm assuming a bot of some sort, just dunno how. ReverendPete (talk) 23:17, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

oh somnolent and slumbering few watchers

the silence is rewarded dear editors by the continued degradation of the island and its role in oz (the mainland) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/Portal:Tasmania - all gone, very soon. JarrahTree 23:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Inquiry

Hi, my name is TmtoSouper. I live in Tasmania and I was wondering if there is any criteria to join WikiProject:Tasmania. Thanks in advance, TmtoSouper (talk) 23:03, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

nothing more than simply linking yourself - welcome to a very quiet project! please ask me further if you so wish... JarrahTree 02:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikivoyage needs editors from Tasmania

Hi WP:TAS,

I'm just asking if anyone here who has a great knowledge of Tasmania could also contribute to Wikivoyage. We currently lack good Tasmanian articles and an editor from Tassie would be greatly appreciated by the Wikivoyage community. Thanks and have a good week. SHB2000 (talk) 07:44, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

aha - canvassing I see - well for a start, sometimes there are not replies for up to months after posting on this noticeboard, and the local eds dont even to come to it - and also there are some mainlander editors who do more than locals (when they edit) - I would offer a buckleys chance of getting a reasonable reply from those with accounts here and at wikivoyage... so to ask from Tas is a misfire - you might actually get mainlanders who feel so disposed. But who knows I could be wrong. JarrahTree 10:50, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation! I will check it out. JT_dale^Talk~ 06:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Good on you JT - good response ! JarrahTree 07:16, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

@JTdale and JarrahTree:, Thanks. Now I need to go to the NT wikiproject although the NT articles are well covered, so that's not a priority. SHB2000 (talk) 07:39, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Project on Tasmanian Wilderness World Heritage Area

Over the next week, there is going to be a work project on Tasmanian Wilderness World Heritage Area by the Wikipedia Discord server as part of an attempt to get Tasmanian Wilderness World Heritage Area to B-class and we would appreciate your help. They are trying to get all vital articles to B-class. (Oinkers42) (talk) 14:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

a very very close examination of the tas project will/may show that sometimes 6 months (sometimes not at all) is a realistic time to expect a response from anyone who identifies as an editor of tasmanian subjects - in most cases there are more tasmanian editors in places other than tasmania - think australia - also the project has suffered at times from mainlanders who do fly by visits - edit something, and depart leaving long suffering residual cleaner-uppers the task of dealing with a range of category and assessment absurdities. The Australian stable of vital articles could well be closer examined as well - its a big place and there are some in a lot worse state than what Tassie might have. JarrahTree 15:18, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

FYI, the way this article was chosen was by randomly selecting a set of 8 or so WP:VIT5 that are rated as Start-class on the talk page, and then having a short vote on which one to focus on. There's currently no specific plans to stick with Tasmania- or Australia-themed articles going forward; the last (first) one was Amazon parrot, on the other side of the world. --PresN 15:01, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

sad - such random improvements are appreciated, but the nature of the randomness is unfortunate - there are so many parts of wikipedia that require more than just a dive into the unknown in places far and between. Thanks to those who improved it - it is much appreciated - just wish there were more delightful surprises such as this one... JarrahTree 15:09, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources

Main page: User:Headbomb/unreliable

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments

Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)