Category talk:Women Indian independence activists

Opposed speedy move request

• Category:Women Indian independence activists to Category:Indian women independence activists – C2B: word ordering is "Indian women" activists Mason (talk) 01:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
  • Smasongarrison I would question this. Current name includes non-Indian women who were Indian independence activists, such as Sarla Behn and Annie Besant. TSventon (talk) 01:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

    I'm happy to remove the non-indian folks, and put them into a new category of Activists for Indian independence. Mason (talk) 01:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

    Actually, it looks like Sarla Behn moved to India, and is categorized in several other Indian FOOian categories. Similar case with Annie Besant. In other words, it looks like they were intentially categorized as being in Indian women categories. Mason (talk) 01:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

    That works for the women, but there are several men in Category:Indian independence activists who look British, e.g. Reginald Reynolds and Allan Octavian Hume. TSventon (talk) 02:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

    I'm not sure why it's necessary to fully fix the entire parent category structure. The British people could be People from British India. Regardless, it was pretty clear that the category contents reflect Indian women, and are inconsistent with other women activists categories. Mason (talk) 02:26, 17 July 2024 (UTCC)

    I think the changes to Category:Women Korean independence activists and Category:Women Indian independence activists are unnecessary as Category:Women Indian independence activists contains women who worked for Indian Independence, just as Category:Women human rights activists contains women who work(ed) for human rights. I am questioning not opposing as in practice most Indian/Korean independence activists were Indian/Korean, so the change in scope is minor. TSventon (talk) 18:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

    Personally, I'd like to eventually make it easier to distinguish between nationality and causes. Category:Women human rights activists is much more clearly about Human rights activists who are women, compared to how we often name Category:Independence activists which could go either way as this conversation has revealed. Mason (talk) 20:57, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

    I think it is fairly clear that Category:Indian independence activists relates to the Indian independence movement, which is the main article for the category. The proposed change makes that less clear, so the current wording is better. We don't have Category:British independence activists or a British independence movement article. There is some confusion at Category:Indian independence activists by state or union territory, for example Category:Indian independence activists from Nagaland and Category:Kashmiri independence activists contain activists for the independence of Nagaland and Kashmir from India. TSventon (talk) 11:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

    If it were clear, this would not be an ongoing discussion, and there would not be an entire category tree dedicated to Category:Independence activists by nationality. Mason (talk) 11:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)