Talk:2001 Football League First Division play-off final
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Sources
editBackground
edit- Soccerway Done
- Soccerbase Done
Playoffs
edit- Brum v Preston Done
- Preston v Brum Done
- West Brom v Bolton Done
- Bolton v West Brom Done
- penalty row
- legal
- Scotland Herald
Pre-match
edit- Irish Independent Done
- Sunday Tribune Done
- head to head Done
Match reports
edit- BBC Done
- BBC clockwatch Done
- Telegraph Done
- Grauniad Done
- 11v11 Done
Post match
edit- BBC Done
- BBC again Done
- BBC again again Done
- BBC again thrice Done
- BBC v Done
- MEN
- Evening Herald
- Preston 2001/02 league finish Done
- Bolton 2001/02 league finish Done
GA Review
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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 08:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Since this is the last second-tier play-off final of the current Millennium currrently at GAN, I thought I'd review this. As with the others, the review will be for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 08:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
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Lead
edit- "Winning the final was estimated to be worth up to £30 million to the successful team." -estimated by whom?
- Maybe add that Bolton did not score anymore goals after the third and explicitly state they won the match for promotion to the Premiership?
- Perhaps add a wikilink for Bolton and Preston's next seasons to the appropriate text in the third paragraphs?
Route to the final
edit- According to Soccerway, West Brom's Goals Against was 52 not 46 and Birmingham's was 48 not 47
- Also, West Brom's goal difference was 8 not 14 and Birmingham's was 11 not 12
- Autocorrected after above fix. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:46, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Wikilink aggregate to the appropriate article on the first mention
- Also the same could be done for cross to Cross (association football) and spot kick to Penalty kick (association football)
- Cross done, penalty is already linked and in the context of the text, it's obvious what it means. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- "with a goal from Jason Roberts who ran onto a Richard Sneekes' pass and struck the ball past Matt Clarke in the Bolton goal." - the apostrophe after "Sneekes" isn't needed
- "The return leg of the semi-final was played four days later at the Reebok Stadium in Bolton." - can't really see any mention of the stadium name in the BBC Sport source
- Was in the first leg source. Explicitly repeated now. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Free kick should be wikilinked to the appropriate article
- Corner can also be wikilinked to the relevant article
Background
edit- "they had lost 2–0 in the 1999 final at Wembley Stadium against Watford and had defeated Reading 4–3 after extra time in the the 1995 final." - maybe put this in chronological order?
- It's more in order of most relevance, i.e. most recent. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:49, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- "Preston were making their first appearance in the second tier play-off final," - this statement will need to be explicitly referenced since the 1994 The Independent source does not mention it
- It was in the previous Sporting Life link, explicitly repeated it. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:49, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Wikilink hamstring injury to the relevant entry
- I'm not convinced we should, I could link "hamstring" but that seems like plain English. We can't be certain it was a pulled hamstring per our article's definition of it, so I think it's best to leave it. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:49, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Summary
edit- Wikilink Millennium Stadium
- Consider adding the date the match took place
- "the first chance fell to Preston's Macken whose header from a Healy cross was straight at Clarke in the Bolton goal." - went straight?
- Not sure this is a problem, reads fine to me as it stands. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:51, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Wikilink substitute on the first mention to the correct article
Post-match
edit- Think the Premiership and First Division in the second paragraph can be linked to the relevant seasonal articles
References
edit- Reference 17 "Bolton strike it rich in field of dreams" is missing The Guardian as the work
- Reference 18 "Division One Play-Off final: Bolton seal return to Premiership" should mention that a subscription is needed to access the article
- Reference 22 "Moyes: Experience the key" is missing the access date
Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 09:52, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- MWright96 cheers as ever for the thorough review. I've addressed and/or responded to each of your comments above. Thanks again. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:55, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- @The Rambling Man: Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 13:11, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- MWright96 cheers as ever for the thorough review. I've addressed and/or responded to each of your comments above. Thanks again. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 10:55, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:30, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
- ... that Michael Jackson's manager expected him to return from an injury and perform in the 2001 Football League First Division play-off Final? Source: Preston have no serious injury worries and manager David Moyes expects Mark Rankine to shake off a hamstring injury, Michael Jackson a back problem and Richard Cresswell a thigh strain.
Improved to Good Article status by The Rambling Man (talk). Nominated by Bait30 (talk) at 17:31, 26 October 2020 (UTC).
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Quick questions
editHi TRM, this is main page soon. I have a couple of possible changes but am too tired to be bold (not to mention confused re tiers/divisions) so if you have a minute?
- lede - position while Preston North Ends Wanderers finished fourth?
- one place and four points ahead - nine points?
- so a penalty shootout decided - refine wlink to Penalty shoot-out (association football)
- Paul McKenna's converted - dab to Paul McKenna (footballer)
- second half, Lee Hendrie brought - should be Colin Hendry (BBC error)
- double Bolton's lead - doubled
- Bolton last played in the top tier in the 1997–98 season when - wlink should be 1997–98 FA Premier League?
Great hook! Regards, JennyOz (talk) 16:17, 4 November 2020 (UTC)
- JennyOz thanks for catching those, much appreciated, all fixed. The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 16:29, 4 November 2020 (UTC)