Talk:Amadou Ba

Requested move 28 November 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. In addition to the discussion here, there are also calls to move the dab page to the base title at a related, parrallel discussion at Talk:Amadou_Bâ_(politician,_born_1892)#Requested_move_28_November_2022. Therefore, dab page to be moved as well per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 11:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

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Amadou Ba → Amadou Ba (politician, born 1961) – Just created Amadou Ba (disambiguation), and there are quite a few to be confused with. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:13, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Yes, or "Amadou Ba (Senegalese prime minister)"? Furius (talk) 10:35, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

• Support reader-helpful. In ictu oculi (talk) 17:05, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom.
• Support per nomination, In ictu oculi and Ortizesp and would also support the alternative proposal Amadou Ba → Amadou Ba (Senegalese prime minister) or simply Amadou Ba → Amadou Ba (prime minister) per Furius. If there is no consensus that the prime minister is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, would additionally support Amadou Ba (disambiguation) → Amadou Ba. Since some of the names listed upon the Amadou Ba (disambiguation) page are rendered as Amadou Ba and others are rendered as Amadou Bâ, with the analogous nomination Amadou Bâ → Amadou Bâ (politician, born 1892) listed at Talk:Amadou Bâ#Requested move 28 November 2022, it may be worth noting that there are two other active nominations in which the sole WP:SMALLDIFFERENCES are accents and diacritics — Christian Gonzalez versus Christian González at Talk:Christian Gonzalez#Requested move 24 November 2022 and Tamas versus Tamás at Talk:Tamás (name)#Requested move 22 November 2022. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 00:57, 29 November 2022 (UTC)

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Requested move 12 February 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Sennecaster (Chat) 02:10, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

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• Amadou Ba (politician, born 1961) → Amadou Ba
• Amadou Ba → Amadou Ba (disambiguation)

– Prime Minister of Senegal is the primary topic due to long-term significance. Sahaib (talk) 00:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 21:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Support The PM is the primary topic. fr.wiki and all other language wikis have already done this. Furius (talk) 15:44, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

• Comment page views. Schierbecker (talk) 17:13, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose Amadou Hampâté Bâ has more views (72,167) than the 1961 one (33,229), the footballer has 14,111, Amadou Dia Ba has 17,272, Amadou Ba-Sy has 879 and the 1892 one has 567. Crouch, Swale (talk) 20:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

  Only the footballer is really relevant here, because the others are already disambiguated by their second names. Furius (talk) 08:35, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

  OK I see "Hampâté" isn't a middle name as I though but the 1961 politician doesn't have a clear lead in views (which is surprising for a current politician) even largely discounting Hampâté and I'd expect some readers would expect Hampâté is a middle name and use just "Amadou Ba" when looking for Hampâté. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:10, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

  What if we were to perform the move per request and put a hatnote like {{for-multi|the Malian writer and historian|Amadou Hampâté Bâ|other people named Amadou Ba|Amadou Ba (disambiguation)}} at the top of Amadou Ba (politician, born 1961)? AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 02:13, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

  I don't think there is an obvious primary topic of of all the uses such as the footballer and Amadou Ba-Sy. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:25, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Historical significance, as well as the fact that the page for the 1961 politician has been around for a lot less time than Amadou Hampate Ba and has already accrued half the views, indicating that it will likely surmount Hampate Ba in the near future. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 04:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting for clearer consensus. BD2412 T 21:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

• Support. As a national leader, long-term significance is always likely to lean in his favour, and recent page views show that he has a sizeable lead over anyone else. All in all seems fairly straightforward.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:45, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

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