Talk:Blue Journey

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Beta Beta Beta (talk) 19:08, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that one journalist thought the VTuber music group Blue Journey's melancholic songs may be an attempt to appeal to a wider demographic?

• Source: Shirokuro (2023-07-10). "ホロライブが共同メジャーレーベルを設立した意図「Blue Journey」から考える" [The Intent Behind Hololive's Joint Major Label: Insights from "Blue Journey"]. KAI-YOU (in Japanese). Retrieved 2026-03-30. trans. by Google translate (I no longer have access to the original Japanese): "However, in a complete thematic shift, the songs featured in the "Blue Journey" project give voice to dark and melancholic emotions. Stepping away from the contexts of traditional idol performance or specific character personas, these songs can be interpreted as being crafted with the aim of resonating more universally with listeners—regardless of whether they are existing fans or casual listeners."

• • ALT1: ... that the VTuber music group Blue Journey announced its end 367 days after it was announced? Source: Lada, Jenni (2023-03-19). "Cover Teases Hololive Blue Journey Music Project and 'Summer is Coming'". Siliconera. Retrieved 2026-03-30. Blue Journey (2024-03-20). Blue Journey - Disembark Movie [hololive]. Retrieved 2026-03-30 – via YouTube.
  • ALT2: ... that the VTuber music group Blue Journey debuted its only standalone single at the end of its only concert? Source:Matsumoto, Takeshi (2023-09-26). "湊あくあ、宝鐘マリン、角巻わため、常闇トワら擁するBlue Journey 1stワンマンで感じたホロライブ音楽企画の新基軸" [Blue Journey—Featuring Minato Aqua, Houshou Marine, Tsunomaki Watame, Tokoyami Towa, and Others—Reveals a New Direction for Hololive Music Projects at Their 1st Solo Concert]. Real Sound (in Japanese). Retrieved 2026-03-30. "その翌週の9月13日に同作と同じタイトルを冠した初ライブが東京ガーデンシアターにて開催された ... そしてここで、この日初披露の新曲「水たまり」をメンバー全員で歌うという嬉しいサプライズが届けられた." trans. by Google translate "The following week, on September 13th, the first live concert bearing the same title as the work was held at Tokyo Garden Theater ... And then came a delightful surprise: all the members sang their brand new song, "Mizutamari" (Puddle), which was being performed for the first time that day."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pallas_Athena_(Rembrandt)
  • Comment: ALT1 is partly sourced to the group's own YouTube channel, YMMV on whether that is appropriate for a hook. ALT2 source confirms it was performed for the first time at their first concert, the discography confirms the other details. I suppose only could be swapped for "first" if that is not fine.

Moved to mainspace by 1brianm7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

1brianm7 (talk) 19:12, 12 June 2026 (UTC).

• @1brianm7: The "Astro" row credits Minato Aquo, Houshou Marine, and Tsunomaki Watame, whereas the prose credits Amane Kanata, Nekomata Okayu, and Shirogane Noel. "Minato Aquo" is also misspelled in the "I Am Alone" row.
• The cited weekly sales figures cover only the first three physical and digital chart weeks, but the table presents 19,263 simply as the album's sales total. Or am I wrong? I think it should be identified as a first-three-weeks or minimum figure, or replaced with a properly sourced cumulative total.
• ALT1 is incorrect as written: March 20, 2024 was 367 days, not 366 days, after March 19, 2023 (From March 19, 2023 to March 19, 2024 is 366 days because February 29, 2024 falls within the interval. So March 20 is 367 days after the announcement). ALT2's source verifies that "Mizutamari" was first performed by all the members at the end of the concert, but well, it does not establish that it was the group's only standalone single or that this was its only concert. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:05, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
  • @Vanderwaalforces: thanks for the review (I think this was a review?) and catching a few mistakes of mine. I have corrected both mistakes and changed 366 to 367. Yeah, I have some of my own qualms with how the sales table stuff goes. It is a standard that was established before my time and I find it somewhat befuddling (this isn't even the worst of it, sometimes we get week 1, 3, 4, but no 2). I do not believe there is a complete figure, what do you think of putting a ≥ in front of it? Also proposing, as I predicted, ALT2a: ... that the VTuber music group Blue Journey debuted its first standalone single at the end of its first concert? 1brianm7 (talk) 17:04, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
  • for future reference, I believe the ping failed because you did not put it on the same line as your sig, I just checked my watchlist 1brianm7 (talk) 17:08, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
    • ALT2a looks good. Over all, I believe WP:DYKCRIT is met, so approved approved. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:37, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
• Pulled due to WP:DYKINT concerns as discussed at WT:DYK — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:05, 12 August 2026 (UTC)
  • At the WT:DYK discussion, which was subsequent to ALT2a being promoted, I suggested numerous alternatives based around ALT0, with Naruto finding the original ALT0 not interesting because it seemed to require familiarity with the group. In general, they also didn't think the angle works out since lots of groups make melancholic (of the last two image hooks [intended to be our most interesting], one was that parkkeepers lived in a parkkeepers house and that a successful person is the daughter of a billionaire). I think the melancholic song angles is interesting since while a lot of groups do it, I don't think its common for them to be done with the sole purpose of garnering popularity. I think readers will wonder why its members weren't relatable, and why melancholy would be the solution to this (questions which the article expands on!), and for ALT0c it makes them wonder why melancholy would be the route to wider appeal, as most works that aim for wide commercial appeal stay on the lighter side. :
  • ALT0a: "that Blue Journey's melancholic songs may be an attempt at mass-market appeal?"
  • ALT0b: "... that Blue Journey's melancholic songs may have been an attempt to make its members more relatable?"
  • ALT0c: "... that Blue Journey's melancholic songs may have been an attempt to gain a wider audience and make its members more relatable?"From this,
  • (this is longer, but gives more context) ALT0d: ... that, by making melancholic songs instead of the cheerful ones Hololive is known for, Blue Journey may have seeking widespread appeal? (you could link Hololive if you want, I'm of the non-linking school)
  • Coming at this with new eyes, perhaps: ALT3: ... that the individual members of a 23-person music group had previously released their own music, which was often very personal? I don't think 23 person groups are very common, and I think the contrast between a 23 person group whose members usually produced personal songs (which readers will obviously recognize can't be done in a 23 person group, is interesting. If those don't pan out, then I think the original ALT2 resolves the interestingness concerns of ALT2a, I also think it is verifiable, but as I mentioned in the nom, other people can think otherwise, and the OG reviewer was one of them. If not that, then we can always go with ALT1, which everyone agrees is interesting (though I personally think it is the least interesting of the bunch). I hope we can come to a suitable conclusion, since I'd expect getting this through GA to be mightily annoying. 1brianm7 (talk) 15:16, 12 August 2026 (UTC) (amended twelve hours later)

Large groups aren't exactly unknown in Japan (AKB48 and friends are good examples), while groups being composed of members with their own prior music careers are not unheard of, so that angle seems like a non-starter. Thinking about it, I'm leaning towards ALT1 as the only suitable option remaining. Note that the nomination is already past two months old so this is eligible for timing out, but in the interest of waiting for a final decision I'm not timing this out just yet. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:17, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

I can live with that. Restoring Vanderwaalforces approval for ALT1 only. 1brianm7 (talk) 09:22, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

@1brianm7: As you are the nominator, you aren't allowed to approve hooks. Let's wait for Vanderwaalforces or another editor to respond (I can also give this a tick if that doesn't happen soon). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:51, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: I wasn't giving it a tick. Vanderwaalforces reviewed the article and found ALT1 interesting and verified (among others). There has been no error identified with the review or in finding ALT1 interesting. We can wait, but I don't really see why. 1brianm7 (talk) 20:56, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Its been two days and I still don't really see the rationale for why restoring a valid approval on what everybody agrees is an interesting hook is wrong. 1brianm7 (talk) 06:35, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

It's more just to make sure that Vanderwaalforces has seen the new discussion and the updates since the pulling. I've left them a talk page message, hopefully they can chime in soon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:04, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

• Oh oh, look who is confused here. @Narutolovehinata5: if you think you can give anything a tick here, then please go ahead; I am just seeing the whole thing now and don't/can't see what to action. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 11:14, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

Okay, let's get things moving. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:25, 18 August 2026 (UTC)