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IBS mention
editTMI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.240.90 (talk) 22:22, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Last Name
editAccording to her divorce filing, Camille Grammer is her legal name and that is what she is known as (e.g., Bravo website uses name Camille Grammer) - so what is up with this article titled as "Camille Donatacci"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.189.169.138 (talk) 13:59, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Birth Year
editThere are two differing years on the date of birth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.169.115 (talk) 04:25, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
Her birth year is 1963 not 1968 UBU07 (talk) 05:57, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
1963? The article says 1964 and then the sidebox says 1968. Is there a reference for what it actually is?66.168.16.88 (talk) 04:16, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- An IP changed the birth year from 1968 to 1964 without explanation. I've restored the 1968 year. IMDb, which isn't citable for this sort of thing, says 1968. I've found other sources that also say 1968, although I haven't bothered to insert them (they're gossipy web pubs). If someone wants to change the date, they need to provide a reliable source.
- I've also changed the birth place - no support for that, either. It, too, was changed, although much longer ago, without any basis.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Really if we have an uncited disputed dob and place of birth we should remove them. Whats the best cite you found Bbb23? Off2riorob (talk) 14:39, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- If it were legitimately disputed, that would be different, but we have tons of articles with birth dates without cites that aren't removed simply because someone says they're wrong with nothing to back it up. That said, here's one of the gossipy cites: [1].--Bbb23 (talk) 15:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
So what is the actual year since there are 1963 and 1968 are a pretty big difference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.36.184.188 (talk) 00:56, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Someone with username CamilleG, for whatevr thats worth, attempted to change it to 1968 again and in the process screwed up the infobox. I fixed and reset to 1964. But we somehow need to get this nailed down one way or the other. A google search came back with results saying both years. Grrrr!Sector001 (talk) 07:32, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
If anyone does still care, California Birth Index clearly shows the birth for Camille M Donatacci registered in Orange County in 1968. You're welcome x Jonnycigarettes (talk) 17:57, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
Amorephosis Jewelry
editFlyingkites inserted material about this company in the lead, the body, and in external links. The "source" is only the website itself. I reverted the changes because in my view it doesn't belong anywhere in the article. Flyingkites put it back. The website is a place where you can buy jewelry. The information is promotional. The site certainly doesn't relate to anything that makes Grammer notable. I'm not in favor of inclusion anywhere in the article, but if others believe it warrants inclusion, the only place it could possibly go would be in the body - not in the lead (too minor, see WP:LEAD) or in external links (see WP:EL). If it were going to go in the body, it would be to be sourced to a third-party source - otherwise, any company, no matter whether it's successful, could be mentioned in any article, just because the subject started it.
I'm going to revert the changes and refer Flyingkites here so that some consensus can be reached.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:15, 12 February 2011 (UTC)