Talk:Civil Rights Movement Archive

Suggestions

Two suggestions to improve accuracy: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucehartford (talk • contribs) 22:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Brucehartford, I'm going to respond to each of your suggestions below with a counter-suggestion, and I'm going to put "{{subst:unsigned|Brucehartford|22:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)}}" on your portions that I've split up, if you don't mind. -- RobLa (talk) 04:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

1. In the Infobox, remove "Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee" from Affiliations and replace it with SNCC Legacy Project (SLP).

The Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) no longer exists. Some former SNCC members have established the SLP to carry on and preserve SNCC's legacy. The SLP is the organization that the CRMA is affiliated with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucehartford (talk • contribs) 22:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

The SNCC Legacy Project doesn't have a Wikipedia article of its own, does it? I'm assuming it doesn't. Perhaps we can expand the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee article, adding #SNCC Legacy Project section to that article. -- RobLa (talk) 04:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

No, SLP doesn't have a Wikipedia article of its own, though I'm sure they'd appreciate having one. Since I'm on the SLP board, my posting an article about SLP would run into the same COI issues as with CRMA. Adding mention of SLP to the SNCC article could be done, or creating a separate article. Brucehartford (talk) 20:11, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

2. Revise the Affiliations section to read:

During the 1960s, many people affiliated with the CRMA were involved with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE), and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC). The CRMA is developing a relationship with the John Hope Franklin Center at Duke University which also hosts the "SNCC Digital Gateway" in partnership with the SNCC Legacy Project.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucehartford (talk • contribs) 22:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

It's become a cliche, but "The CRMA is developing a relationship with the John Hope Franklin Center at Duke University" would almost certainly need to be followed with "{{cn}}". You'll notice that most non-profit organizations on English Wikipedia don't list this their affiliations in the infobox for organizations. We may want to just leave mention of the John Hope Franklin Center for Interdisciplinary and International Studies out of the article until one (or both) organizations issues a press release that gets picked up by a reputable news organization. -- RobLa (talk) 04:41, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Okay, leaving mention of JHFC out for now makes sense. If you think it best not to have any affiliation mention in the InfoBox I defer to your greater experience. Brucehartford (talk) 20:11, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

This provides a more complete description of the past affiliations of those working with the CRMA and the relationship with the John Hope Franklin Center.

Brucehartford (talk) 22:03, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your patience with the red tape associated with English Wikipedia, Bruce! I'm probably violating a Wikipedia norm or two in my response to you, but I'm hoping we can have a really solid article about your organization. The more that I've learned about it (via research for my version of the article), the more I've come to appreciate the importance of the organization. -- RobLa (talk) 04:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

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Footnotes

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Proposed Update to Stats

According to its founder, 412,607 people visited the CRMA website in 2020. Approximately 14% of visitors were from outside the U.S.

As of the end of 2020, the archive holdings included:

• 671 veteran stories, narratives, & oral histories
• 717 stories, narratives and oral-histories
• 1849 movement photos and art works
• 4226 original movement documents
• 905 original letters & reports
• 469 original articles & speeches by movement veterans
• 286 history articles written by participants
• 298 commentaries on the movement and current events
• 52 transcribed discussions and panel presentations
• A bibliography listing 674 books about the movement
• 2792 links, to other movement-related websites & pages
• Background and contact information for 674 movement veterans

Brucehartford (talk) 20:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

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