Talk:Destiny's Child

Edit request

I don't know if I'm typing this in the right section but I have edit request suggestions.

The way the below info regarding their name is currently written suggests the girls found the entire phrase "Destiny's Child" in a bible, when they've only said it was the phrase "destiny" itself, and "destiny" is found in Isaiah: https://biblehub.com/isaiah/65-11.htm

1. Please change: "Though group members have claimed that the name was taken from a passage in the Book of Isaiah, the phrase does not appear in any published English translation of the Bible, and more likely originated in the 1967 Waylon Jennings song of the same name." to "Group members have claimed that the name was taken from a passage in the Book of Isaiah: "We got the word destiny out of the Bible, but we couldn't trademark the name, so we added child, which is like a rebirth of destiny," said Knowles."

Here is a 2002 interview to include as a reference, it contains the above quote from Beyoncé: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-book-of-destiny/

Mathew Knowles spoke about the name creation, too, in an "Imitate Portrait" documentary from 2001, which I can't link bc it's on youtube (apparently blacklisted), but he said, "Tina was looking in the bible, she looked at this word, and it was "destiny", I came up with the word "child" as a rebirth of destiny." This is backed up by a 2004 Texas Monthly profile, which states: "Mathew and Tina got back together. To seal their good fortune, they picked a new name for their daughter’s group, this quartet of girls that seemed, after all that hard work, chosen. Tina pulled out a Bible and found the word “destiny.” Mathew added “child.”"

See: https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/its-a-family-affair/

2. Please change: "Shortly after her stint with Monica, Williams was introduced to Destiny's Child by choreographer Braden Larson aka "Peanut Orlando", and was flown to Houston where she stayed with the Knowles family" to "Shortly after her stint with Monica, Williams was introduced to Destiny's Child by a choreographer friend, and was flown to Houston where she stayed with the Knowles family" bc I am pretty sure that the above name was added as a joke by someone, since the cited link currently provided does not name the choreographer. 2600:1702:2A40:3E40:31BA:3AFA:9EFF:D238 (talk) 11:29, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done WikiMacaroons^Cinnamon? 14:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

The story still doesn't make any sense. The only place the word "destiny" appears in Isaiah is in verse 65:11, where some translations use it in place of the name of the pagan god Meni (the Babylonian goddess of destiny). They claim that they opened a Bible and picked a totally random single word and then made it possessive and added "child" to it for "copyright" reasons? Even though there's no way they could copyright it since it was already the name of a hit song? The "passionately Christian" Tina Knowles named her daughter's band after a pagan god?

It's beyond obvious that the band was named after the Jennings song and that this nonsense story about the Bible was made up later to distance them from the country genre and appeal to the kind of fans who need everything to be "Christian." If putting that in the article is unacceptably "original research" then fine, exclude it, but why do we have to give credulous acceptance to the other narrative when it's a self-reported motive that makes no sense? Predestiprestidigitation (talk) 01:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

spelling

should be Isaiah not Isiah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:180:8200:63d0:6038:b9ab:a07b:65a1 (talk) 17:04, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Subtle Sexism

Why is Destiny Child, TLC, etc noted as "girl groups" when equivalent males groups are typically considered "vocal groups"? 2605:B100:D01:B7DE:8143:23E9:BAF2:D7D4 (talk) 23:15, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2023

86.41.139.214 (talk) 18:06, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
I can do the changes if that's alright

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The person who loves reading (talk) 18:06, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Group

1995 is the original following years to was the remix 2600:1001:B057:EDEC:7C8F:8C5B:9676:A787 (talk) 23:06, 2 October 2024 (UTC)