Talk:Dominika Lasota

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Boud in topic Reliable source?

tweet by Women in Red Victuallers (talk) 13:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

POV together with Jędroszkowiak

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TODO: This presentation of Lasota's overall sociopolitical intentions and methods, co-authored with Wiktoria Jędroszkowiak and published by Krytyka Polityczna, is worth briefly summarising and adding as a section. As mentioned in the AfD, the photo of Lasota and Jędroszkowiak being interviewed en masse by the mainstream media in the Sejm (Polish parliament) is a dramatic illustration of their significance in Poland in 2022 (and in the photo it's Lasota that gets all the attention, as if she's a president or prime minister). Unfortunately, there's probably little chance of persuading TVN24 to free-license the photo... Boud (talk) 20:24, 6 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

Maybe that would also require a separate Wiki article on Wiktoria Jędroszkowiak and her activity? 85.221.133.87 (talk) 20:49, 3 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Reliable source?

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This source, used in the article, directly cites Wikipedia:

Dominika Lasota 26 listopada skończy 21 lat. Jest związana z Młodzieżowym Strajku Klimatycznym i międzynarodowym ruchem Fridays For Future. W 2020 roku została członkiem Rady Konsultacyjnej przy Ogólnopolskim Strajku Kobiet. "Współtworzy inicjatywę Wschód, której celem jest pokazywanie związków między wojną a kryzysem klimatycznym" – pisze o niej Wikipedia.

It raises a flag on the reliability of the source, a sort of walled garden with the source quoting Wikipedia and Wikipedia citing the source; and how reliable the journalist is who uses Wikipedia as a source. -- GreenC 15:26, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

We currently use that particular source only for the sentence Lasota's talk with Duda was seen by Polish media as the most important event of COP27 on 8 November. I don't see any closed loop risk for this piece of info. NaTemat.pl does not need Wikipedia to judge that a topic dominated the Polish media two days earlier. Obviously we should avoid using info in that particular paragraph in the source, since probably more than just the specific quote is attributed to Wikipedia.
I think it would be more reasonable to assume that the journalist saw citing Wikipedia - towards the bottom of the article - as adding a final closing comment for completeness. Two decades after Wikipedia started, we are in the situation where not checking Wikipedia for a question such as "Who is Jane Doe?" could be seen as sloppy journalism - and giving Wikipedia credit for the info extracted from Wikipedia is valid journalism. The remaining few paragraphs are on Jędroszkowiak, not Lasota. Boud (talk) 23:02, 4 September 2023 (UTC)Reply