Talk:Dorothy Gale

Tornado, or Cyclone?

Was it a tornado, or a cyclone, that brought Dorothy to Oz?

Chapter one of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz is called "The Cyclone". However, any climatologist will tell you that Baum was simply mistaken - it had In meteorology, the distinction is probably clear, but in American English (presumably Baum's native tongue), "cyclone" is a synonym for the very small, highly destructive Midwestern storms. This requires reference to the articles (not done by me), but probably the correct markupcyclone</nowiki>. (Does this call for a dab at cyclone?) --Jerzy(t) 23:43, 2005 Jan 27 (UTC)

According to The Annotated Wizard of Oz by Michael Patrick Hearn, Baum learned the distinction and requested a change after the initial printing, but it was never done. Instead they changed "yellow" to "scarlet" or "bright" and "pleasure" to "please" for no apparent reason. --Scottandrewhutchins 16:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Major article re-write

I have made extensive revisions to this article as part of an effort of mine to upgrade and improve the articles for Oz characters. The old article was basically only about the character as she appears in the classic books. I have added information about the subsequent movie as well as the modern revisionist works. I also seperated the article into individual sections to make it more readable. --MatthewUND 21:48, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

Off-topic paragraphs

• A paragraph was just added to the "Modern works" section that is very much off the topic of this article and certainly the "Modern works" section.

Here it is:

The website at Halcyon.com, [[1]], lists 145 Oz books composed and published after the original 33 by Baum and his successor Ruth Plumly Thompson. Even this daunting list is not complete, missing, for example, the interesting "Paradox in Oz" by Edward Einhorn, illustrated by Eric Shanower, publshed in 2000. Clearly, like the ever lively genre of Sherlock Holmes continuators, the Oz books also retain a loyal following, of authors as well as readers.

I don't see what this has to do with the character of Dorothy.--MatthewUND 01:14, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

• I just removed the paragraph. --MatthewUND 07:46, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)

• Here's another paragraph that was added that has little to do with the article's subject, isn't a "reference", and provides little worthwhile info about the subject (it is more about Juniper Lee than Dorothy).

Here it is:

References

Dorothy, and The Wizard of Oz in general, has gained a lot of recognition. For example, in The Life and Times of Juniper Lee, we find out that June's school's play was The Wizard of Oz, and she was cast to play Dorothy but may have been forgetting her lines.

I will give others a couple of days to comment on this paragraph before I delete it. It seems really out of place to me. --MatthewUND 03:17, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

It seems very out of place to me too. This may be because I've never heard of The Life and Times of Juniper Lee but I think perhaps this would be better placed, if anywhere, in a list of homages on the Wizard of Oz page proper.--Signor Giuseppe 14:00, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I just removed it. --MatthewUND 07:18, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Oz

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gingham checked dress

wouldn't it be more specific, in the opening paragraph to call her dress a pinafore/pinafore dress?

Also, while it's iconic to every adaptation, most fail to mention why it was signifigant to the plot. Namely, blue being Munchkin colors, and white being the preferred color of sorceresses (magic users slightly below Wizards and Witches power-wise). So, Boq and company see this house fly outta nowhere and land square on the evil Witch oppressing them. They peek inside and, not having a really good look, think they are dealing with a full-grown Munchkin sorceress. This is why they get the Witch of the North as backup. They thought this "sorceress" had pretentions to become the next Witch!Allronix 05:01, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Dorothy's house in Kansas

Someone told me that there is the "house of Dorothy" is a touristical attraction in Kansas. Is this true?

See Liberal, Kansas... AnonMoos 14:08, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Film roles

The article states "Baum subsequently adapted The Patchwork Girl of Oz into a 1914 motion picture directed by J. Farrell MacDonald with thirteen year old actress Mildred Harris taking over the role of Dorothy." However, the linked article on Mildred Harris clearly states that she was not in that movie.

McFarlane toy removed

I've removed the following from the article:

Todd McFarlane's action figure of Dorothy for his "Twisted Land of Oz" line shows her in bondage gear, being attacked and bound by two deformed versions of Munchkins. In the accompanying story, she is an eighteen-year-old goth girl with a lot of teenage angst, and ends up in Oz by way of a magic corset. She meets the Scarecrow, the Lion and the Tin Woodman, and goes to the Emerald City, where the Wizard uses her to unleash 'Ozmic power', which transforms the characters into grotesque distortions of themselves.

I don't think that this toy line is sufficiently notable to merit inclusion in the article for Dorothy Gale, and have already asked if there are any objections at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oz and Talk:McFarlane Toys. If anyone has evidence that this toy line and its accompanying story were particularly noteworthy (e.g. coverage in mainstream media), it can be restored. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Sidebar

The Sidebar is silly. I suggest deletion. 194.144.92.20 16:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

It's an infobox, and it is essential to having a quality article under Good Article or Featured Article standards. --Scottandrewhutchins —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 18:00, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Dorothy Bar, Las Vegas

Isn't there a Dorothy Bar in one of the hotels in Las Vegas where the servers are all dressed as Dorothy? If so then it should be mentioned in the article. I just Googled for it, but without result. HairyWombat (talk) 01:37, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Gay/transvestite Icon?

In America at least, the character of Dorothy Gale is often associated with gay and/or transvestite men. It's a shortcoming of this article that nowhere in it is the fact mentioned, despite having two other Wikipedia articles addressing the Dorothy-Gay connection: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_of_Dorothy and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Garland_as_gay_icon#Friend_of_Dorothy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sethnessatwikipedia (talk • contribs) 10:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Added "See also" section to article with link to Friend of Dorothy. HairyWombat (talk) 17:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

The picture is of Betsy Bobbins, not Dorothy Gale

The picture from the book series with caption: "Dorothy, as depicted by John R. Neill, is usually cited by fans of the book series as the way they see the character." - is in fact a depiction of Betsy Bobbins.

Curiously, although the "Summary" on the picture's page clearly states "Betsy Bobbins as depicted by John R. Neill", the picture itself is entitled 'DorothyGaleNeill.jpg', and the uploader (Scottandrewhutchins) declares that it is of "Dorothy as depicted by John R. Neill".

The young girl is clearly a straw-blonde or redhead like Betsy, and quite unlike other descriptions of Dorothy, so I'm really not sure how this could have happened.

SDoradus — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.188.233.44 (talk) 07:23, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

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Question

Who voiced Dorothy Gale in an M&M's commercial by the time the M&M's lost their colors? NoahAlexanderJohnson101 (talk) 21:02, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Relevance of LGBTQ Section

Is it really relevant to have a whole section about the Gay community using Dorothy as a form of code? This is an article on the character, not gay culture and references. 2604:2D80:4302:5D00:2EA0:B3A2:80BD:F488 (talk) 06:18, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

It's not overly long, relevant to Dorothy Gale, and there's plenty of sourcing. Cerebral726 (talk) 12:41, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

It does not appear to be relevant to the character. 2604:2D80:4302:5D00:2602:63C3:BDB4:1C7D (talk) 12:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)