Talk:Falooda

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I was more interested to know in which country the Falooda originated in. I thought that it had originated in Persia now called Iran ...

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Is it really necessary to quote someone as describing Falooda as "The worst fucking thing"?

I agree. It may be the worst f@cking thing in the world, but it's unnecessary to include this unreferenced quote. Applejuicefool 16:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

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Merge

I oppose the proposed merge because, while they have similar names and are historically related, they are not the same. Faloodeh, the Persian dessert, is not a drink, for a start. Munci (talk) 21:24, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I also agree. They're completely different. Many Indian dishes originated in Persia but have evolved through time. South Asian persian inspired food is not a subset of Iranian cookery. Pidog99 (talk) 08:11, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

There is an error in this article. Falooda is essentially not a drink in India or Pakistan either. There is a drink that incorporates falooda which seems to be called falooda also. I don't think it's available in North India or Pakistan. Seems to be an innovation from Bombay that's spread into some regions. However, there are other reasons to keep the articles distinct. As far as I know, the Falooda-qulfi combination, the usage of falooda in idiomatic language, etc are all specific to the subcontinent. It has a distinct history. Most Indians and Pakistanis have no idea that falooda is of Persian origin, anymore than the Irish think of the potato as a South American thing - it is considered totally native to the subcontinent. --Hunnjazal (talk) 15:08, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I have arranged both articles so that no merger is needed. Xufanc (talk) 08:59, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree, no merge. However I do think it is good to include the history and relationship between the two to show the difference. Jooojay (talk) 06:54, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Noodles

Currently this article says the noodles can be made of wheat starch and it has a citation with a dead link for this information. I have never seen wheat-based noodles used since they have gluten and get soggy. Can someone find a more reliable citation for this? Or can we remove it, if not? I have looked and I am not finding it. Jooojay (talk) 06:29, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

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removal of RS by some persian users and reverting removal of a non RS persian blog post.

i have posted RS, which has been declared POV by persian users such as @Wikaviani: @LouisAragon: @Oshwah:while the removal of a non RS, persian blog post which is also irrelevant to indian Falooda, has been reinstated. i want to call these users to discuss why they have done that. 175.137.72.188 (talk) 18:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

IP user, Faloodah was invented in Persia more than 2500 years ago, how could the Mughals invent it 2000 years later ? Please check what this Indian paper says about this : "Even the concept of sweetmeats after the main meal was introduced by the Persians. The most common being kulfi and falooda, eaten in tall glasses in Iran. Even jalebi found its way to our hearts from Persia! Sherbet, served during Indian summers, originated in Persia.". ---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:56, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

falooda is not faloodeh, this is faloodeh, you are in the wrong article, this is indian falooda invented during mughal period, your india today RS is non reliable, regards. 175.137.72.188 (talk) 19:02, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Faloode was introduced by Persians. Check this.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:09, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

faloodeh is a dessert, falooda is a beverage, there is no comparison between persian faloodeh and indian falooda, indianexpress is also not an RS, please reinstate my RS which gives comprehensive info on falooda precursors, shudhganga is an RS and shouldn't be removed, persian blog post on faloodeh is entirely irrelevant to the article which is about an indian beverage, falooda shares faloodeh persian name because of cellophane noodles called by the same name, which i have not removed, regards. 175.137.72.188 (talk) 19:18, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

The beverage is also of Persian origin. Also, you seem to think that only you can identify what a RS is. Edit-warring against 3 other editors before waiting for the discussion to conclude is not the solution. Best regards.---Wikaviani ^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:30, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

if faloodeh is being compared to falooda then surely the prior is a dessert while later is a beverage, i think you are trying to persianize an indian article, please spare it, i didn't remove faloodeh reference from the article i just added, prior indian vermachelli based examples which you are not tolerating, why are you not tolerating an indian reference in the indian article is beyond me, we can talk about the perticular reference, but what you are exhibiting is urely patriotism, regards. 175.137.72.188 (talk) 19:41, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

hi, @Wikaviani: @LouisAragon: @Oshwah: i will make edits based on shudhganga source i have already stated and this one another thesis here, if you have any RS, which you want to discuss, please bring it here, the present sources are NOT CREDIBLE, so i will remove them based on non RS, if you dont respond, i will assume that there is no objection on the source, and i will take it as a yes, regards.

Falooda is popular beverage in Indian subcontinent,made primarily by mixing rose syrup with vermicelli and basil seeds along with either milk or water. Falooda is named for thestrands of corn flour vermicelli that float in flavoured milk baseddrink. Falooda appears quite similar to sevian and Chinesenoodles. It is soft gelatinous, thread like and translucent. It can be coloured with natural colouring materials like saffron, rose, etc. Typical falooda is a milk based drink, flavoured with rosesyrup and vermicelli strands floating in it. It is topped with ice cream or kulfi and decorated with dry cherries (Patel and Arora, 2005). Falooda is quite similar to famous Thai drink known as “NAM MANGLAK”, this drink is made of mixture of basil seeds, rose water, water and sugar. In Iraq, falooda is made with thicken kind of vermicelli. Bubble tea is a similar kind of falooda drink in East Asia. Falooda is milk based beverage and most beverages typically contain a lot of water and while not necessarily adding nutrients to the diet. They importantly help to prevent dehydration. Many fruit drinks contain significant sugar, adding energy to the diet and in some cases provide vitamins and minerals (Anonymous. 2012).Vermicelli is another major ingredient used in falooda preparation. Vermicelli, a kind of pasta, is a traditional type of pasta round in section similar to spaghetti. The vermicelli noodles are used in number of dishes including a variation of kheer a sweet dessert similar to rice pudding. The falooda is a Persian frozen dessert made with thin vermicelli noodles, frozen cornstarch, rose water, lime juice and often ground pistachios (Anonymous, 2006).

as i have already stated that falooda is based on prior indian milk based desserts like kheer which already uses noodles called sevian, in which vermicelli noodles sevian are used, falooda is a beverage from indian subcontinent, while faloodeh is a persian dessert which use totally different ingredients except persian falooda cellophane noodles which itself is most probably based on east asian/chinese cellophane noodles, if you have objections to this source, please speak now, or else, i would consider this source as acceptable, regards. 175.137.72.188 (talk) 14:40, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

• I just saw this section title. IP, read WP:Assume good faith. Your assumption that everyone else is doing what they're doing because they must be Persian is paranoid and a failure of "Assume good faith." Consider that other users are doing what they're doing because they actually know how this site works and might be more open-minded to reliable sources. Until you drop your own petty nationalism, your attempts at discussion will get nowhere. Ian.thomson (talk) 14:47, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

please avoid making personal attacks, like paranoid, i dont care about nationalism but petty nationalist is again a very personal attack, you have called me edit warrior for merely pointing out the dispute to the admins and thre reverts made by the above user, which is also a personal attack, and very abusive, i dont care about nationalism until it is based on irrationality and not respecting RS rules of WK, regards. 175.137.72.188 (talk) 16:58, 15 February 2019 (UTC)