Talk:Found (2021 film)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 07:49, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that the subjects of the documentary Found discover that they are biological cousins as teenagers? Source: Los Angeles Times

• Comment: I'm open to alternative hook ideas; let me know if you have any.

5x expanded by Sdkb (talk) and Cinemacriterion (talk). Nominated by Sdkb (talk) at 00:47, 9 November 2021 (UTC).

• Starting review shortly. Ktin (talk) 04:04, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Before I go too far, it seems like DYK Check is saying that 5x expansion has not been completed. I did a check -- article was at 860 characters when expansion started. Seems to be at 3656 characters now as against the 4300 characters that would make for the 5x expansion. Handing it back to Sdkb to work this and hand it back to me when appropriate. I will be on standby. Ktin (talk) 04:09, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ktin: Thanks for picking up this nomination! I did some more research and was able to add a few more sentences. I'm running into a wall trying to expand beyond that, though, as there's just not that much coverage out there about the film yet. Putting aside the expansion, the article overall is definitely still new (I came across it and started expansion just barely outside the 1-week window), so IAR I hope you might be willing to consider the combination of that and the expansion sufficient to meet the spirit of DYK. Best, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 00:23, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Ack. Updates follow. Newness marked yes based on above conversation. Well sourced. Synopsis does not have a source, but, I have heard that synopsis (movies or books) do not need a source since the work itself is the source. No issues with article tone. Hook is interesting and is backed up with the source. Will ask the editor to reference that bit in the article. Currently appears in the synopsis section. Earwig's Copyvio scores 31% but this is related to a couple of quotes that have been rightly sourced to the Hollywood Reporter. No concerns there. Did not see a QPQ. Did I miss that? Overall I think this is almost there. Also, while we are at it -- can the editor consider a pass at simplifying the hook the "discover that they are biological cousins as teenagers" does not read well. But, if the editor thinks this is alright, I am good. Handing back to the editor on a couple of minor actions. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 04:15, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

@Ktin: QPQ done at Template:Did you know nominations/Cédric Wermuth. Source added inline temporarily, since WP:DYKRULES 3b says This rule applies even when a citation would not be required for the purposes of the article. Long-term, the relevant guidance is MOS:PLOTSOURCE, which allows plot sections to not have inline refs. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 17:54, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Picking up the review. QPQ has now been completed. Inline citation completed. Marking approved. If the editor wants to try a reword of the hook, I am good to review that as well. If they feel that the hook reads alright, will go by that. I am on the fence on that one. With all that said, I am marking this DYK approved and am adding the check mark. Thanks for your submission. Ktin (talk) 18:18, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

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