Talk:Girard B. Henderson

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 04:27, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

This issue has been resolved. --Greg Henderson (talk) 20:33, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Request Edit A

• Information to be added or removed: I would like to add a link to Laurel Hill Plantation (South Carolina) under the "Death" section.
• Explanation of issue: Editor wants link to related article.
• References supporting change: Add the following link: "His funeral was on November 20, 1983 at the Laurel Hill Plantation at Sam’s Point Road on Lady's Island."— Preceding unsigned comment added by Greghenderson2006 (talk • contribs) 23:39, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Done. -- GreenC 17:52, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Request Edit

Can someone remove the WP:COI tag? It looks like a cleanup has been done to comply with Wikipedia's content policies WP:WTRMT. Thanks! --Greg Henderson (talk) 20:40, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

I went through this article in closer detail a while back. Other editors have as well. I just re-read it briefly and it reads like a standard biography one might find throughout Wikipedia. Any restoration of the tags should include a rationale for specific actionable problems. These tags are not permanent they are meant to be addressed and then removed. -- GreenC 20:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

@GreenC: It has been a year since this tag has been placed. Is it possible to remove it now? --Greg Henderson (talk) 19:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I will re-iterate what I said a year ago. These tags are not permanent markers to indicate there was a COI at one time. They are designed to address ongoing edits that are problematic or text that is significantly compromised. I don't see either here. Anyone seeking to restore will need to justify what text is causing the need for the tag, and ideally work to make improvements so the tag can be removed. -- GreenC 20:17, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Categorization

I don't understand what the rationalization would be for this revert. Avon Products says it is the second-largest direct selling enterprise in the world. The category Category:People associated with direct selling would be strangely incomplete without his inclusion given his outsize role simply by virtue of being director of the second-largest enterprise globally. -- GreenC 21:49, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

I've restored the direct selling cat. If not this cat, he needs to be in some cat related to direct selling. -- GreenC 20:41, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Theodora Holding Corp v. Henderson (1969)

https://www.lsd.law/briefs/view/theodora-holding-corp-v-henderson-2352163 better sources are needed, but I feel this litigation in which Girard was a defendant should be included given that this case has been cited a fair number of times in books relating to corporate social responsibility. This was apparently a landmark precedent in corporate drama. Graywalls (talk) 20:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

https://books.google.com/books?id=MVI3EAAAQBAJ&pg=SA4-PA450&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiF4frAs--DAxXHODQIHWmeCegQ6AF6BAgIEAI#v=onepage&q=&f=false Graywalls (talk) 21:20, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

Regarding this mass revert Special:Diff/1198450439/1198450899:

Could you clarify:

1. He was married to Theodora G. Henderson. The source literally says this. Why are you deleting it?
2. The author Donald Porter described Henderson as a "short, tough-talking millionaire" .. this is an independent reliable source there is no problem with it.
3. The statement In 1925, Henderson was accepted to Dartmouth College, but only attended his freshman year. See Steve Jobs, Elizabeth Holmes etc for other wealthy people where we discuss their abbreviated college careers.
4. Henderson's early flying experiences are directly related to a lifelong interest in airplanes. Why would anyone remove that important biographical history?
5. The photo of the school concerns one of the topics discussed in the article. See WP:IMGCONTENT. The picture shows a rustic bucolic ivy-draped entrance that looks old and established, it helps the reader better understand its character eg. not a rough inner city school

-- GreenC 05:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@GreenC:, there are two editors objecting to some of the contents in the article and per WP:ONUS, it falls on the inclusionist to establish consensus, but you have been reverting back in the direction of inclusion without discussion.

1.) The source said separation agreement. I don't feel strongly on this one.

2.) I added that initially, then the grandson modified it a bit and another editor Melcous took it out and I simply took it back out. You'll have to check with them. Since you want to include it, you should have established consensus.

3.) From what I've seen and what other editors have commented, "attended classes" "studied at" are not included where the subject do not graduate.

4.) This was written by the article subject himself. AUTOBIOGRAPHY. I believe including what the subject themselves want to say about is UNDUE.

5.) I strongly disagree with that in a biography article, adding the entryway picture to the school they established adds any value.

Graywalls (talk) 07:34, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

1) The source says they were married. Literally, it is what the source says, directly. Do I need to quote it? If you can't verify sources and argue over it, there is a problem with competency.

2) Fine. Does everyone want an RfC? I'll do that, no problem. But first I want to understand, why is the opinion of a reliable independent author being removed?

3) That's inaccurate. I gave examples where we do discuss it, frequently.

4) WP:PRIMARY allows for some inclusions. Again, why is it being removed?

5) I explained its value. You could make your argument "useless" for about 90% of the pictures on Wikipedia. But WP:IMGCONTENT disagrees.

-- GreenC 15:29, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Request Edit C

• Please add under Career section, at the beginning of the paragraph the following sentence:
  • Henderson flew a Beechcraft Model 17 Staggerwing biplane to transport wealthy business executives.

Greg Henderson (talk) 19:34, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

Isn't that based on a quotation of a Greg Henderson within the book? Graywalls (talk) 07:52, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

No, it is coming from Donald J. Porter himself. It is important in the bio for Henderson becaue he witnessed the evolution of aviation, e.g. Charles Lindberg's famous nonstop flight from New York to Paris. He was one of the nation’s earliest pilots, earning his license at age 20 in 1925. His pilot's license number was in the upper four digits and was signed by the surviving Wright Brother, who was head of the CAA, or Civil Aviation Authority. During the 1930s, David McConnell Jr. had become the president of CPC and bought cabin planes. Jerry became the pilot of a Stagger Wing Beechcraft used by Mr. McConnell. Greg Henderson (talk) 18:40, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

@Greghenderson2006: Please provide a page number. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 21:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Ping fix Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 21:46, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@Snowmanonahoe: Hi, I've added the page number 14, to the citation. Greg Henderson (talk) 22:24, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 12:50, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

References

Edit Request - American Jet Industries

• Add under the Career section before the sentence that begins with "In 1964, Henderson got involved in the Blue Channel Seafood Company..." add the following setence with career text and citation:
  • "On September 1, 1978, Henderson became an investor and served on the board of directors for American Jet Industries, which later changed to Gulfstream American Corporation under the leadership of Allen Paulson, The corporation acquired the Grumman American Aviation Corporation for $32 million and $20.5 million in preferred stock. Greg Henderson (talk) 19:26, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done - The content could not be verified in the citations, possible synthesis. Netherzone (talk) 19:34, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

References

• Add the following text under the section "Philanthropy" after the 3rd paragraph.
  • "The A. D. Henderson Foundation was founded in 1959 by Henderson and his wife, Lucy, with the mission of "creating and dveloping constructive links between the public and private sectors of society."
• Add the following text directly the section "California Perfume Company"
  • "Henderson was Vice President and Director of Avon Products."

References

Greg Henderson (talk) 01:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

 Partly done: Unable to verify second addition, no mention of Avon - only AVVT which I haven't been able to verify is the same company. Encoded  Talk 💬 08:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Edit Request - Schools

• Under the Alexander Dawson Foundation, add the follwing after the setence that begins with "in 1980, he created the Colorado Junior Republic School (CJR)..."
  • Today, the CJR school is called the Alexander Dawson School (ADS) and is operated under the Alexander Dawson Foundation. The school is a coeducational college preparatory day school for grades K-12.

References

Greg Henderson (talk) 16:06, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Deactivating as stale following Greg Henderson's sitewide block. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)