Talk:Greensboro sit-ins

SNCC Leadership

This article has no mention of the Student Non-violent Coordinating Committe (SNCC) leading these sit-ins. Borg*Continuum (talk) 21:32, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

That's because SNCC did not exist at the time of the Greensboro sit-ins. The Greensboro sit-ins started in February of 1960, SNCC was founded 10 weeks later in mid-April. Brucehartford (talk) 16:57, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Request for expansion

I think that somebody should add more to this article, as i am doing a project on this. Letthegoodtimesroll <3 23:02, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Although I added the tag, I think the event of the sit-in at Woolworth's deserves a seperate article that largely does not overlap in content with the biographical details of the four men that initiated the sit-in. - Mitchumch 02:59, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Seems like a short article. Also, the page that this is suggested to be merged with (Greensboro Twenty) doesn't exist. There was a mistake in one of the links (only the opening tag) so I fixed that. ---Chord 10:59, 26 April 2006 (EST)

Yes, someone should beef up the sit-in page. For example, Jesse Jackson was a football player at NC A&T and got his public role started a student spokesperson during the sit-in (my memory from history clss in college - please verify) - acm-acm 16:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Why important?

According to this article, the Greensboro lunch counter sit-in was not the first. There were previous sit-ins at lunch counters in Wichita, Kansas and Oklahoma City. For some reason the Greensboro sit-in has always received more attention, but shouldn't a Wikipedia article about the sit-ins try to set the record straight? Pat Berry 14:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

The Greensboro sit-ins were not the first but they were the main impetus for the beginning of the nationwide sit-in movement, which is why they get all the attention. Jieagles 18:34, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

I think I addressed this with my recent edits. Toddst1 (talk) 16:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Smithsonian

The comment that the original lunch counter was donated to the Smithsonian institution in 1993 is false, just so someone knows. The original lunch counter has been put behind glass and will be on display when the International Civil Rights museum opens up in Greensboro within a couple of years. In fact, I sat in the seats of the original lunch counter just 3 years ago. --70.157.77.119 01:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Note on this: Wondered why it wasn't mentioned in the article that this is planned. The museum is being built in what was the Woolworth's, right? Used to pass by it quite a lot when I lived down there. Unfortunately I don't have more info as I moved out of state. Anyone living there or with more info available to add this to article? A picture of the building might be nice too if someone has the time. It has pictures from the sit-in covering the windows and a plaque or sign of some sort last I saw. --70.191.118.46 (talk) 05:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Anyone else notice that the dates change in the article? First part says 1960, second part 1969. Quite confusing...

1960 is the correct date. I will edit that. Also- Sign your posts, please. Borg*Continuum (talk) 23:56, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Previous sit in: Dockum Sit-in?

I'm moving the following statement:

However though it would seem that Greensboro had the first ever sit-in of its kind, the Dockum Sit-in (at the Dockum Drugstore in Wichita Kansas) was the very first sit-in to influence all those to later come.

here to the talk page as it is unsourced and conflicts with the sourced statement in Greensboro_sit-ins#Previous_sit-ins. If someone can come up with a citation that disputes that, please discuss. Toddst1 (talk) 17:58, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

GREENSBORO SIT-INS WERE NOT THE FIRST IN U.S.

A lady who has never been given her rightful place in the pantheon of civil rights pioneers is CLARA LUPER. Please see the Wikipedia article about her. Despite the fact that the Oklahoma City sit-ins preceded those in Greensboro by well over a year, most accounts date the era of civil rights sit-ins to February, 1960, with these Woolworth's demonstrations in Greensboro---and that is erroneously implied even in Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.1.93 (talk) 19:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Fine, but why are other sit-ins on this page? They are rather far off-topic. Toddst1 (talk) 22:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Quite right. Better covered in the history sections of sit-in. I think they just got tacked on here at some point and then foolishly added to by people like me.Abby Kelleyite (talk) 23:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

July 19, 1958 in Wichita, Kansas - http://stubbornfacts.us/random/almost_forgotten_history • Sbmeirow • Talk • 01:10, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

Sit ins brought to the Civil Rights movement by Martin Luther King?

The Background section states that sit-ins were "brought to the Civil Rights movement by Martin Luther King." Yet the sentence immediately following that says " As far back as 1942, the Congress of Racial Equality sponsored sit-ins in Chicago," which seems to conflict with the previous sentence as King turned 13 years old in '42. That King brought sit-ins to the movement must be false. It's clear he embraced the tactic though. Toddst1 (talk) 00:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I think the current sentence in the article is wrong/overstated. Here's what King himself said on the sit-in movement in 1960: "Many of the students, when pressed to express their inner feelings, identified themselves with students in Africa, Asia, and South America. The liberation struggle in Africa was the great single international influence on American Negro students. Frequently, I heard them say that if their African brothers could break the bonds of colonialism, surely the American Negro could break Jim Crow. I felt we had to continue to challenge the system of segregation, whether it was in the schools, public parks, churches, lunch counters, or public libraries. Segregation had to be removed from our society. And Negroes had to be prepared to suffer, sacrifice, and even die to gain their goals.... I urged students to continue the struggle on the highest level of dignity. They had rightly chosen to follow the path of nonviolence." Chapter 14: The Sit-In Movement. Abby Kelleyite (talk) 00:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks AK. I've removed that sentence. Toddst1 (talk) 02:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Spread to Alabama

Although copied directly from the source, I think we can agree that Alabama is not a northern state. Is there a source indicating that an alternate state should have been mentioned, or should things simply be changed so that Alabama isn't referred to as northern? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.130.219.209 (talk) 21:56, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Why obscure the violence?

It seems like the wording in parts of this article minimizes the violence & obscures the source. For example:

Most of these protests were peaceful, but there were instances of violence.[11] In Chattanooga, Tennessee, tensions rose between blacks and whites and fights broke out. ...

The wording, and use of passive voice here makes it sound like both groups were equally responsible for the violence. In fact, what happened was that the mob of whites attacked the blacks who were peacefully sitting-in.

I don't understand why the Wiki author would want to obscure this fact? T-bonham (talk) 04:47, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

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It appears source 24's link no longer works, I could not find the original editor reference called "NC Stores Close Down Counters" on the Greensboro New Archive website. Would someone know of an alternative? OG Markis Jr (talk) 09:49, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

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