Talk:High Tension
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Massive overhaul, please
editNearly every single sentence sounds like it was fed into an English translator. Why are so many relatively minor technicalities being discussed here when the entire article less skill with the English language than a bootlegged foreign film? If you have the necessary time, for the love of all that's good, please just rewrite the damn thing. It's almost eye-bleedingly horrible to read, and more importantly, it goes beyond just being poorly written to being completely incomprehensible. There were points I couldn't understand at all. That's a problem in any Wiki entry.
Switchblade Romance
editAre you sure that the UK version was called Switchblade Romance and the USA one High Tension? The reason i ask is switchblade's an Americanism not heard in the UK - it's called a flick-knife.
- Well I'm not sure about the UK but here in Ireland the DVD in the shops is definitely called Switchblade Romance and they generally have the same titles for the UK and Ireland. -- Lochaber 17:57, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Theatrical Version/Cuts Confusion
editBy sheer chance I happen to have the unrated DVD and the fullscreen R-rated DVD as well and both do contain what is called "The US theatrical cut" but the cuts are not as specified. The actual decapitation scene is shown when it occurs during the first half of the film but when it is shown in the flashback sequence at the end when the twist is revealed it is inexplicably cut for some reason. In all versions the scene where the killer uses the severed head of the woman to perform fellatio on himself is also not cut and is shown in the same detail on both DVD versions.
The R-rated DVD does feature other minimal cuts that are hard to notice by the blind eye, for an instance during the scene where the killer severs the hands of Alex's mother so she cannot use the phone in her dying moments, there is no reveal indicating that is what exactly happened (i.e. in the Unrated version you can see her severed hands on the floor, etc.).
This film definitely had a confusing transition to the US in DVD format, to say the least. 65.145.212.91 05:20, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Theatrical Version Cuts
editI saw the movie in theaters here in the US and all the 'cut' scenes were intact. The fellatio scene, the decapitation, the huge spray of blood during the killing of Alex's mother. The severed hand was also present on the floor, the wound from the baseball bat was detailed, and the guy getting torn apart by the saw was very clear and at least 4 seconds long.
Also was this movie ever a book?
You might be thinking of Dean Koontz's Intensity, which I've never read. I've seen a lot of reviews that say that the plot in the first half of the movie is so similar to be verging on plagiarism. --ChandlerH 13:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Deleted Clues
editShould we include any reference to the known clues that were deleted? The one I know of off the top of my head was a brief scene where Marie saw the truck. That one at least I consider pretty important, since it answers one of the biggest knitpicks I've seen about the twist: How did Marie get that truck? --ChandlerH 13:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I was thinking that too, also when the dude (her split personality) throws the head out the window. How did this happen?The Clydelishes Clyde 05:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Not to get too deeply into talking about the subject instead of the article, but the only possible explanation is that it didn't happen, it was just a product of Marie's imagination. --ChandlerH 17:59, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
How about the fact that she chases herself in a car that she steals from the gas clerk and injures herself by crashing it... but she really didn't chase... I'm confused again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.23.234.194 (talk) 08:42, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Spoiler warnings
editAs the section involved is very helpfully named 'Clues leading to "The Twist"', I've removed the spoiler warnings as superfluous. They've been restored anonymously without explanation. Well, an explanation would be nice. --Tony Sidaway 23:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating
editThis article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:37, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:High tension poster.jpg
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slasher?
editthis is far from a slasher flick. i am removing that statement. --71.203.149.71 (talk) 21:10, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Cut Scenes Section
edit"Alex's father is graphically decapitated with a bookcase, his headless neck spraying blood. In the R-rated version, the initial killing is implicit rather than explicit, and later, during a flashback, his killing is gone."
Does that make any sense to anyone? 96.232.6.237 (talk) 01:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Brancron
- I would guess that the director's cut/original shows Alex's father being graphically decapitated. In the US version, the scene is not there. I would agree that the sentences could be reworked to be clearer. Kushal (talk) 17:39, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
- Not exactly. It's mentioned above that the decapitation scene is shown when it happens during the beginning of the story but it is cut when they utilize the flashback sequence during the reveal of the plot twist. --99.186.111.95 (talk) 23:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Controversy
editI am adding a section regarding controversy surrounding this film's relationship to the 1995 Dean R. Koontz novel, Intensity (novel) and the 1997 television film starring Molly Parker based upon it. TGTommyrocket (talk) 06:41, 9 December 2011 (UTC)TGTommyrocket
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved per request. Favonian (talk) 16:32, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Haute Tension → High Tension – Over redirect. Use English-language title per WP:NCF#Foreign-language films. Rob Sinden (talk) 14:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- Moved from WP:RM#Technical requests; edit history indicates that the request may be controversial. Favonian (talk) 16:34, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
- support per reason given. There is no indication that this feature was marketed and distributed in any portion of the English-speaking world under its French title. Conversely, there are numerous newspaper and magazine reviews of this film, including an entry in Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide, which reference its English-language appellation.—Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 04:06, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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Requested move 14 February 2024
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The result of the move request was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
High Tension → High Tension (2003 film) – There are a considerable number of other targets at High Tension (disambiguation). Per WP:NOPRIMARY the dab page should be located at High Tension and not the 2003 film. I further note that this film has been released in English on DVD/Blu-Ray under two different titles, High Tension and Switchblade Romance so the naming convention in English isn't consistent. This further demonstrates that this is not the primary target for High Tension, and for this reason I would also support a move alternative to Switchblade Romance which has no competing titles, or simply using the original French language title, Haute tension. A further point to consider, High Tension could become a redirect to high voltage as the primary target as "Extra-High Tension" or EHT is a common measurement in electricity. There are several options here. Either way, the 2003 film should be moved. 4meter4 (talk) 15:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 08:11, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, pageviews indicate this is a clear primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 16:44, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject France has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:17, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak support no clear primary topic over the generic meaning so move DAB here but don't redirect to High voltage. Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:13, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support, but with High Tension (disambiguation) moved to High tension, over the current redirect, and High Tension also redirected to that title. BD2412 T 16:08, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Support – In same terms than @BD2412. Svartner (talk) 03:51, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as the overwhelming WP:primary topic for "High Tension" with hundreds of pageviews per day. Note high tension already properly redirects to high voltage. Station1 (talk) 08:22, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I'm not sure I understand the purpose in moving High Tension (disambiguation) to High tension rather than High Tension, since as Station1 points out, that already redirects to the correct article? -- asilvering (talk) 16:19, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering: I would disagree that High tension redirects to the correct article. If tension itself is ambiguous, how can high tension be particularly less ambiguous? It could as easily refer to psychological high tension, or to a high degree of tension in physics (for example, high tension rope, which is clearly not conductive). BD2412 T 16:27, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Got it, thank you. -- asilvering (talk) 18:46, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- @Asilvering: I would disagree that High tension redirects to the correct article. If tension itself is ambiguous, how can high tension be particularly less ambiguous? It could as easily refer to psychological high tension, or to a high degree of tension in physics (for example, high tension rope, which is clearly not conductive). BD2412 T 16:27, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support: It's just difficult to determine which High Tension has more notability at this point. I don't think the high pageviews tell the whole story: could it just be due to the English title? Would it have the same outcome had it been Haute Tension? Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 15:40, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the outcome would have been the same. Haute Tension averaged 9 hits per day last year, while high tension averaged 3. Station1 (talk) 14:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
- I've requested closure for this at Wikipedia:Closure requests. Natg 19 (talk) 21:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. This film's pageview lead is decisive and long-lasting, making a strong case for its WP:PRIMARYTOPIC status, and supporters of the move haven't provided any policy-based arguments to rebut that claim. (I also encourage the closer to bear in mind that high tension is distinct via WP:DIFFCAPS.) No strong preference about the capitalization of the DAB. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 16:59, 29 March 2024 (UTC)