Talk:India national football team at the Asian Games

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 17:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

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India national team after defeating South Korea in the final of 1962 Asiad at Senayan Main Stadium, Jakarta.

• ... that India national football team won the gold medal at the 1951 and the 1962 Asian Games football tournament and the bronze medal at the 1970 edition? Source: olympics.com
  • ALT1: ... that India was the first ever Asian football champion winning the gold medal match against Iran at the 1951 Asian Games football tournament, held five years before the first AFC Asian Cup in 1956? Source: FIFA Museum
  • ALT2: ... that 1962 Asiad win is considered as the greatest achievement of India since they beat the then Asian champion South Korea with injured players in front of 100,000 hostile Indonesian crowds? Source: goal.com, FIFA Museum, The Indian Express
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  • Comment: My first DYK nomination.

Created by Drat8sub (talk). Self-nominated at 15:20, 5 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/India national football team at the Asian Games; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Drat8sub: You have waited a long time for this to be reviewed, so I apologize on behalf of the community that it took as long as it has for someone to pick up this DYK nomination for review. You're good without a QPQ as I take it on good-faith that this is your first nom. You far exceeded the minimum size requirement and got the nom in before a week had elapsed following the publication of the article. The article is well-sourced; I did not do a GA-level review of the sources but my spot-checking suggests that you've done a good job. The images, by nature of their age and Indian law, all appear to be in the public domain (that I did check more thoroughly). The biggest issue is a minor one, but one that will temporarily stall the nom: Earwig picked up some issues with using the same terminology as one source (see here). Just rephrase those sentences so that they aren't identical with the source and I think I'll be able to approve! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:45, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

@Pbritti:, I've rephrased the copyvios except this phrase, "...towards the end of 1980". I don't know what to write instead. Rest all, I think is ok. Drat8sub (talk) 06:24, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Pbritti:, hello mate, are you around here? Drat8sub (talk) 13:16, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Due to some access trouble, I'm going to mark this as an AGF approval, but I think it's good to go! Nom'd image is also approved. Failed to address that earlier, if it was present in my initial review. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:25, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

@Pbritti:, thanks for the review. Is there anything needed from my end for the process to complete or it is automatically be done by any admin ?

• Drat8sub, the prose of the article is fairly low-quality. There are numerous grammatical/spelling mistakes, and many instances of MOS:WTW. Please consider improving the article, either by yourself or with the help of WP:GOCE. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:49, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29:, thanks for the review. I've have corrected all the spelling mistakes and some of the grammatical mistakes. However, for DYK, the article need not to go through GOCE which is primarily for a GA or FA which I don't intend to do right now but I have a plan for that too. Again, for DYK, GA or FA is not required. Since you have improved many article to GA and FA, I can sense your intention of improving article to the best quality and I assure I will do so but after the DYK. I want to point out, the nomination follows all the criteria per WP:DYKRULES, improvement of the article to a quality article like GA and FA is the objective or aim of DYK per WP:DYKAIM, not the requirement. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 13:46, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Drat8sub, having promoted hundreds of articles, most of which were not even GA standard, I am aware that GA and FA is not required for DYK. However, per WP:DYKCOMPLETE, there is an expectation that articles should be presentable. At a glance, the article has an issue with missing out or unnecessarily including definite articles (e.g. at midpoint, since been the part of every edition, As per draw, the winner of Iran versus Burma match, earned the praise, becoming first ever Asian Champion, Hong Kong was third seeded team, etc.).

There are also numerous tense mistakes, grammatical errors and instances where the prose is unclear (e.g. but sanction was taken in advance from FIFA, who lobbed the ball with in six yard box towards Mewalal who shoot the ball, But Indian forward dou, who took a scorching shoot, this time Venkatesh made the ball in possession of Mewalal who shoot the ball, and full packed stadium of 25,000 spectators, three definite goal shot, the draws for the Football tournament, Idonesia, will participate...will play...is increased...would be played, Japan's only managed two, However, o 3 May 1954, which resulted India's early exit from the tournament, etc.).

And I have only seen up to the end of the 1954 section.

I know that if I promoted this article to the queue in this state, I would be excoriated at WT:DYK or WP:ERRORS—hence, I suggested you ask GOCE, which is not solely for GA/FA assessments, or a copyeditor to improve the prose. I hope you see my reasoning. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:48, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay, fine...I'm requesting at GOCE. Will let you know once the article is refined. Drat8sub (talk) 17:39, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29:, done with copyedit, you can proceed with the process. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 06:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 06:45, 8 December 2023 (UTC)