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On merging with Jyotisha page
editJyotisha deals with religious rituals and is different from astronomy as science. Work done by Aryabhata, Bhaskara etc. on as astronomy does not belong Joytisha at all. So, merging these two pages does not make any sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.111.157 (talk) 00:34, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose a merger into Indian astrology (Jyotisha), which is only a part of Indian astronomy. This article's scope is much broader than that of Jyotisha. If there is a concern to avoid duplication, perhaps Jyotisha should be merged into this page, as it would make a logical section of this article. I have no strong feelings on that merger; although people who edit that page might have concerns with such a change. I have put a merger notice on the Jyotisha page. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 02:13, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
I agree with the previous commentator, this topic is broader than Jyotisha. Though they are related in the sense that Jyotisha depends on astronomy, it is more statistical in nature as it leverages astronomical data and builds statistical models. It makes better sense to keep this separate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.34.66 (talk) 18:21, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- jyotisha is one branch of indian astronomy and needs its own article, i oppose its merger with indian astronomy, regards. 175.137.72.188 (talk) 09:04, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
The section of Indian and Greek astronomy is a complete mess and is deleted (any issues talk here)
editAs stated this section is a complete mess and is talking about outdated information. If you disagree, provide scientific evidence and testable proof here in this section. As that section's claims are all over the place and is talking information which has no bearing to the reality, whichever way you look at it.
Disagree?
Present scientific evidence here. "Scientific evidence" which has been tested and proved empirically?
In 21st century, this section cannot contain 18th and 19th century narrative, which was false and could not present a single evidence or a single discipline of science in it's support.--Surabhi3105 (talk) 08:34, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
- The paragraph seems to be properly referenced, and the sources are certainly not outdated. If you want to refute this content, you will have to find reputable sources which explicitly reject it. Do not use multiple accounts to edit [1] [2], as you will be immediately blocked for WP:Sockpuppetry under Wikipedia rules. Do not revert multiple times, as this is also blockable. पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 11:09, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Name of this article
editSince this article prominently ignores the topic of contemporary Indian astronomy, maybe this article should be renamed to something like History of Indian astronomy or maybe Premodern Indian astronomy although this is not exactly accurate. --Jazzman (talk) 00:35, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Interesting. Astronomy has become one single, universal, global science now. Hence, I can argue there is nothing that can be called contemporary Indian astronomy. India does have a contemporary space program but that is entirely based on modern (i.e. western) astronomy. My understanding is that India astronomy went out of practice sometime during the 18th century (Jantar Mantars being the last visible signs of practice). Kishorekumar 62 (talk) 04:59, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- The fact that contemporary Indian astronomy doesn't use different scientific principles than astronomers in other countries doesn't mean that there is no contemporay Indian astronomy. How big is it at Indian universities? How does the government fund and coordinate it? Who are important Indian astronomers? What are important contributions of Indian astronomers from the last decades? --Jazzman (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- I agree. I see the article has been nominated for GA status; I don't see how it can be promoted without either covering the current state of Indian astronomical research, or changing the title. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:55, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- I also think it should be renamed as History of Indian astronomy or the present should be covered in summary here. Please tell it should be renamed or added content.Prinaki (talk) 10:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think renaming is a slightly better option. I would give an end date, as well -- e.g. History of Indian astronomy to 1900, or whatever date is suitable, otherwise the expectation would be that it would include 20th-century developments. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- I am trying to summarise the modern astronomical developments in the subcontinent in one section. If I cannot do it properly, we can discuss further. Prinaki (talk) 09:53, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
- I think renaming is a slightly better option. I would give an end date, as well -- e.g. History of Indian astronomy to 1900, or whatever date is suitable, otherwise the expectation would be that it would include 20th-century developments. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- I also think it should be renamed as History of Indian astronomy or the present should be covered in summary here. Please tell it should be renamed or added content.Prinaki (talk) 10:15, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
- I agree. I see the article has been nominated for GA status; I don't see how it can be promoted without either covering the current state of Indian astronomical research, or changing the title. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:55, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- The fact that contemporary Indian astronomy doesn't use different scientific principles than astronomers in other countries doesn't mean that there is no contemporay Indian astronomy. How big is it at Indian universities? How does the government fund and coordinate it? Who are important Indian astronomers? What are important contributions of Indian astronomers from the last decades? --Jazzman (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
On adding new section
editA new section has been added. Please don't edit it right now. Start discussing and editing after the template is removed. I have wrote in own words by borrowing references from articles like ISRO, Abdul Kalam, removed unwanted and added from other places. Prinaki (talk) 15:45, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Hi! Thank you for your work on this article and your improvements. I noticed you recently nominated this for GA, but are still working on a major expansion. One of the GA criteria is "stable", and if the article is still under expansion, it wouldn't be considered stable. I recommend withdrawing the GA nomination (you can just delete the GA nomination template on this talk page) and re-nominating when the article is a fully expanded state you are happy with, and confident it meets all the GA criteria. Happy editing! —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:50, 24 July 2023 (UTC)