Talk:The Karate Kid

Martial arts terms

Corrected the use of terms such as "dojo" and "sensei" when discussing Laimon's Cobra Kai gym in Vegas. Such terms have no meaning in BJJ and MMA, and are not used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.71.15 (talk) 06:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Quotes?

Would it be ok to add a quotes section? After all, there is one on the KK3 page, and all the best ones come from the original. "always look eye"Luke 23:16, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

the irony being that japanese people would never do this Thedarxide 14:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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It would be nice to see a Quotes section here.

i would like to know how what the old katare kid is likee hope it is good. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.30.162.65 (talk) 20:14, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Rayghost (talk) 02:42, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Style?

Is this page written in a standard Wikipedia style? It reads somewhat unlike most others.

SpaceCaptain 00:15, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I have also changed the "direction" because of WikiFilms standards. --^BuGs^ 10:15, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Mistakes?

Is it really the place of an encyclopedia to point out continuity errors in the film? Especially somewhat irrelevant ones (i.e. the direction of the radio during the fight scene?) Probably more at home on IMDB than here

I liked the "errors" section. Yea, it's a classic, but it's also interesting to hear about stuff that you don't normally hear about every day. 207.157.121.50 07:04, 20 October 2005 (UTC)mightyafrowhitey

Don't know how wikpedia works, so bear with me... In the part about the remake, it states taht "On September 27th, 2008, IGN reported...," the problem being that that date hasn't happened yet. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.216.207.138 (talk) 13:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

In the first line under plot, it iis stated: Teenager Daniel LaRusso (Daniel Hope) Seems wrong to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.74.177.48 (talk) 09:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

In the summary of the page, William Zabka is named as the protagonist. While this view is argued by a small minority of viewers and fans of How I Met Your Mother, where Neil Patrick Harris plays Barney Stinson, a character who believes that William Zabka's character, Johnny Lawrence, is the "real" karate kid. The intended protagonist from the filmmakers' perspective is Daniel LaRusso, played by Ralph Macchio. I believe the page should be edited to remove a reference to Zabka as the protagonist — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.238.236.34 (talk) 10:15, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Death of Mr Miyagi?

On the Mr Miyagi page it states that the character has died. Where in The Karate Kid canon does it mention Mr Miyagi's death? And, is there a significant The Karate Kid canon outside of the films? --Bentonia School 16:52, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

karate style?

is there a specific style that this movie portrays? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.215.4.48 (talk) 06:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

Goju ryu is probably the closest Thedarxide 14:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

I would agree on Goju Ryu as well. Considering the fact that Mr. Miyagi's last name is Miyagi. And the founder of Okinawan Goju Ryu is Chojun Miyagi. It could be just an incredible conceidence, but it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to use the name Miyagi as an homage.

Rayghost (talk) 02:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't have an official source but I've always been told they were actually using either kung fu (not sure what style) or tai kwon do because whilst karate was the most well know martial art at the time the director/studio didn't think it looked exciting enough. Danikat (talk) 19:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I concur that it was at least as much Goju-ryu as anything else. I studied that style back in college (in nineteen mumble-mumble), and many of the moves Mr. Miyagi teaches him are indistinguishable from Goju-ryu ones; particularly the "paint-a-fence." That said, I did not see the Crane stance that Daniel used during my training, but that may be because I only got as far as a green belt; who knows?

I have not found any source that indicates the style used, and I'm apparently not alone in that, since the article doesn't actually say.

Submitted for what it's worth...

*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 17:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Missing Link

I propose that a link be added to the original, non-commercial Karate Kid site at www.fast-rewind.com/kkid/

It seems a significant omission? Fanpot 16:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Based on an article?

Why is The Karate Kid listed in Category:Films based on newspaper and magazine articles? There's nothing here that says it was based on a newspaper or magazine article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Similarly, there is an unusual link to a cheap-looking website for "the real Karate Kid" with no explanation whatsoever. I will delete this link; please justify its inclusion before replacing it. --Do Not Talk About Feitclub (contributions) 14:46, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

It was most likely there because Detective Comics (better known as DC comics) owned the rights to the name "Karate Kid" who was one of their Legion of Superheroes characters and their permission had to be gained for the making of this movie. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.202.120 (talk) 23:52, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

This page has been maliciously edited...

Lots of talk about Mary Poppins etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IHaveTheRightToArmBears (talk • contribs) 21:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Quotes

Yeah, the get him a body bag quote was a classic cultural scene from the 1980's. How could one not have it in there??

66.162.124.66 (talk) 11:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

TV airing

When I saw some parts of the film on AMC yesterday and the pitch remained lower than its regular pitch. I wonder why they did that.

Could you clarify? Thedarxide (talk) 19:15, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The Karate Kid - "The Real McCoy"

You should add the real Karate Kid talk and webpage of the Real Karate Kid person Grand Master Hashi Bill DeClemente. The webpage its http://www.thekaratekid.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by WMACPR (talk • contribs) 13:18, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Medal of Honor?

The article states that Miyagi won the Medal of Honor. In the film, when Daniel finds the medal and holds it up and looks at it, he looks at it and reads the word "valor". I don't know much about military medals, but if it says "valor" on it, doesn't that mean it is the Medal of Valor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.124.108.224 (talk) 21:51, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Good question, but there are many military medals given out for valor and if you goto the Medal of Honor page you will see that the medal itself in some of its forms had the word "valor" on it. I think we can keep the statement as is. Ckruschke (talk) 14:37, 30 December 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke

‎I have to disagree. There is no such Army award named "Medal of Valor" and its capitalization denotes a proper noun. The medal depicted in this movie's scene is specifically the Medal of Honor. While there are various military awards given for valor, such as the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Distinguished Service Cross, as illustrated here‎, only the nation's highest decoration, the Medal of Honor, has the word "Valor" inscribed thereon. So I've changed the wording accordingly, with a wikilink. In so doing, this article will also be consistent with this section of Miyagi's fictional bio.  JGHowes  ^talk 15:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 15:58, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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The Karate Kid (1984 film) → The Karate Kid – The Karate Kid has redirected to The Karate Kid (1984 film) since last September, so we are already treating this film as the primary topic. If the consensus is that the film should be treated as the primary topic, then we should make this move. My opinion on the matter is that while the 2010 remake gets similar traffic to the 1984 film, the original film is still primary in terms of long-term significance, per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Reviewing results in Google Books, this film is constantly referenced, reflect its "greater enduring notability and educational value". For example, the book Rebels and Chicks: A History of the Hollywood Teen Movie writes about its box office success as continuing "the sports cycle of teen films" in the 1980s, and it compares the film to Rocky in having underdog protagonists and championship matches. Other results discuss it in the context of martial arts films or of 1980s films. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:38, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

• A similar setup is The Day the Earth Stood Still vs. its remake at The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008 film). While the 2008 film is popular, it has not demonstrated the long-term significance that the 1951 film has. Admittedly, this is a more obvious conclusion to draw since The Karate Kid is not as intensely studied as The Day the Earth Stood Still, but it shows that the original film can be a primary topic over the remake if it has that long-term significance. Examples of original films and remakes both being disambiguated due to no real significance are The Crazies and Death at a Funeral, but I do not think that setup is warranted here. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 14:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
• Strong support. The primary topic in this case is either the initial film or the franchise as a whole (other meanings are relatively inconsequential), and the original work should generally get the spot until it is clearly shown to be superseded, as when the original is not particularly notable but later installments make the series notable. This is the opposite case, where the original remains by far the most important film of the series, more important than all others combined. bd2412 T 18:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

• The primary topic could have been the title character. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:44, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

• Strong support Original movie should be primary topic - this is beyond question. Current Karate Kid should be renamed Karate Kid (franchise) or something like that. Ckruschke (talk) 20:24, 27 January 2014 (UTC)Ckruschke
  • The current Karate Kid is a disambiguation page, listing uses outside of the franchise as well as Franchise entries. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 03:55, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
• Support PRIMARYTOPIC due to long-term significance, as mentioned. Given it's just a move over redirect this doesn't seem like a controversial move. Commentators should be careful distinguishing between Karate Kid and The Karate Kid, the latter of which is under discussion (former's a disambiguation, this tripped me up when I was looking into it). benmoore 22:49, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
  • I would consider The Karate Kid to be the primary topic of the title Karate Kid anyway; other topics on the disambiguation page pale in comparison. bd2412 T 02:57, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
    • Let's get that one proposed after this one. Red Slash 00:27, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
• Support, as it is by far the most significant of any possible contender for the title. Red Slash 03:10, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
• Comment Ideally, "The Karate Kid" should become a franchise article instead. -- 70.50.148.122 (talk) 03:53, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

  I don't think that's true. There have been RM discussions about Home Alone and A Nightmare on Elm Street where the consensus is to have the original film as the primary topic, even though these films have franchise pages too. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 12:17, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

• Support as the usage of PRIMARYTOPIC in the original film articles of Red Dawn, RoboCop and The Nutty Professor. ApprenticeFan ^work 09:57, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
• Support per nom. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 09:44, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
• Strong support per nom. I actually came to this page to say the exact same thing. Corvoe (speak to me) 01:19, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

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Johnny Defeats a skilled opponent

It was Johnny that defeated a skilled opponent before Kreese tells Bobby to be disqualified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.38.189.88 (talk) 00:58, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Year in plot?

Since the movie was filmed in 1983 and released in mid 1984, shouldn’t the plot actually take place during the latter part of 1983 instead of 1984 as stated? Glenn L (talk) 21:34, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

I don't think we should be assuming that the film takes place during the same year it was filmed. I would be much more comfortable if there was evidence of the year presented within the film itself. Perhaps a relevant question is whether it ultimately matters whether the film occurs in 1983 or 1984? DonIago (talk) 12:38, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Wrong link for Ron Thomas

I think that the wrong link is used for Ron Thomas. As of this moment, it's linking to a Ron Thomas who played basketball and died in 2018.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomada36 (talk • contribs)

 Fixed I've unlinked him as there doesn't appear to be an article for the correct Ron Thomas. DonIago (talk) 04:02, 5 September 2021 (UTC)