Talk:Kathanar – The Wild Sorcerer

Not the first Indian film to use virtual production

Makers are promoting it as the first Indian film to employ virtual production. However, it is factually incorrect as previous films like Judaa Hoke Bhi ([1][2][3]), RRR ([4][5]), Radhe Shyam ([6][7]) etc had already used it. The Doom Patrol (talk) 11:55, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:56, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that Kathanar – The Wild Sorcerer traces the life of Kadamattathu Kathanar, a legendary 9th-century Christian priest endowed with magical powers? Source: https://www.cinemaexpress.com/malayalam/news/2023/jun/02/kathanar-team-completes-first-schedule-44168.html
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter

Created by Jupitus Smart (talk). Self-nominated at 12:12, 1 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Kathanar - The Wild Sorcerer; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• @Jupitus Smart: I'm afraid the suggested hook doesn't really work – DYK hooks can't only be about the plot of a work of fiction. Could another hook be found? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
  • @Theleekycauldron: How about this
  • ALT1: ... that Kathanar – The Wild Sorcerer is being shot on a custom-built studio spanning 45,000 square feet, utilizing the virtual production technology? Source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/malayalam/movies/news/rojin-thomas-on-kathanar-the-wild-sorcerer-it-is-a-film-that-promises-to-transport-audiences-to-otherworldly-dimensions/articleshow/99287292.cms

• Reviewer needed to do a full review, including of the proposed replacement hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Long enough, new enough. No neutrality problems found, no copyright issues found, and I've taken the liberty of unclassifying this as a stub because it clearly isn't one. The Times of India is considered to have a reliability between no consensus and generally unreliable per WP:RSP, and so I'd like to see a better source for any hook.--Launchballer 07:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

@Jupitus Smart: Please address the concerns above. Z1720 (talk) 02:13, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Apologies, @Z1720: and @Launchballer: for the delay. Cinema Express (it is a part of The New Indian Express) also has an extended coverage of the items in the hook and the it can be viewed here - https://www.cinemaexpress.com/malayalam/news/2023/jun/02/kathanar-team-completes-first-schedule-44168.html. Jupitus Smart 18:40, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Very good. Now let's see it in the article and I'll approve this.--Launchballer 22:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the scrappiness, @Launchballer:. It has been a long time since my last DYK. The reference was already in the article, and I have now reordered it to reference the hook at the right place. Thanks. Jupitus Smart 14:07, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

So it is. Let's roll.--Launchballer 14:29, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

@Jupitus Smart, Launchballer, and AirshipJungleman29: my apologies for yanking the rug out, but something came up that I thought merited more discussion. Secretlondon, at WP:ERRORS, suggested that the hook reads like ad copy – given that the source is mainly a parroting of the director's Instagram post, I'm inclined towards it having merit. What do y'all think? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:00, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

The content also appeared in Cinemaexpress, for which I'm satisfied with Jupitus' rationale. At the time I approved this, it was only sourced to Cinemaexpress but I see that the Times of India made its way back in. I've taken it back out.--Launchballer 09:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron:, I don't think it would be easy to befuddle multiple newspapers including the Times of India and Indian Express, without them actually viewing the studio. There are multiple photographs of the studio which can be found with a search and this can also be referenced from this Kaumudi article - [8]. Jupitus Smart 05:37, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: Does the above satisfy your concerns? Z1720 (talk) 18:23, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

@Z1720: they're Secretlondon's as much as mine, I'd be interested to see them workshop a hook. Or do we just feel that the hook is fine as-is? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 05:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Theleekycauldron: Secretlondon has not edited in over two weeks, and this is the oldest unapproved nom. I just found the content at The New Indian Express, so I'm happy with it.--Launchballer 20:59, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

all right, I'll eat trout on this one :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 10:59, 4 January 2024 (UTC)