Talk:List of Nike missile sites

Public Domain information per CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING RESEARCH LAB (ARMY) authors [1] pohick - (talk) 00:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Great Falls, VA

The former Nike Missile site in Great Falls Park is at Turner Farm Observatory Park near the intersection of Spring Vale Road and Georgetown Pike. There is a Nike Park in Great Falls, VA on Utterback Store Road, but that is not where the missiles were. The coordinates given on the map point to Utterback Store Road incorrectly. I don't know why Nike Park has that name. (I'm curious). But Nike Park isn't the correct location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.105.158 (talk) 02:31, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

That is not correct the launcher site was at Great Falls Nike Park. The control site was at Turner Farm Observatory Park. Hal9000w (talk) 22:29, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Locations

FEMA Region X is located in Bothell not Kenmore

thanks for the location - the locations and links are approximate based on the names in the source. another source has GPS coords for each, i'll add those one of these days. pohick (talk) 16:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

N-75... Um, that's a skate park. not blast deflectors! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.127.152.197 (talk) 11:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

W44 Pinefield Subdivision, Waldorf MD

I saw that two-part installation from age 7 to age 17. One part was at the Prince George's/Charles County line and the other part was at the other end of Pinefield near Mattawoman-Beantown Road.

http://www.mde.state.md.us/assets/document/brownfields/Waldorf_NIKE.pdf http://wikimapia.org/1466287/Maryland-Indian-Heritage-Society-of-Waldorf-former-NIKE-Launch-site-W-44L http://ed-thelen.org/loc-m.html http://www.rjcote.com/roger/waldorf.htm

16816 Country Lane Waldorf, MD 20601 Right where I remember it, although it seemed not far from 6016 CL (why the high street number?).Chris-marsh-usa (talk) 16:26, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

FDS?

{{expand}}

What does "FDS" mean? -- Beland (talk) 16:49, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

It's also un-explained in the similar tables I've found online, which usually seem to track back to the Lonnquest & Winkler ref in the article. I can't find it in the local uni library catalog and Amazon lists it but doesn't have it available:( Will see if my library reference friends can find a copy...somewhere... DMacks (talk) 06:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

 Done Added note defining the term and a URL to a free copy of the ref. DMacks (talk) 19:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Site PI-25

I'm guessing that actually wanted to be listed as Monroeville, not Monroe. However, both of the given sites are in Plum Boro, which is given as Pittsburgh for mailing purposes, despite being about 10 miles from the city limits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.151.234.141 (talk) 18:58, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

"Raised" vs."Razed"

Good work. A useful article. One quibble: In at least two places, the author(s) use the word "raised" when "torn down" is meant. Shouldn't that be "razed"? Relgif (talk) 02:31, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I see many places with this same use, and I agree that it seems to be the incorrect homonym. Relgif, please feel free to fix if you have the time. DMacks (talk) 23:09, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

PH 82 possible reversal of launch site and fire control site locations

Hello

I enjoy this page and was actually looking to find the coordinates for PH 82 as I spent many a good field day with the University of Penn and Holmesburg Amateur Radio Clubs who used the old fire control site for radio operations. I've not been there since the mid-1990's, right before Penn sold the property to a real estate developer.

I do believe that the two areas -- CS and launch areas -- are reversed. The control site was accessed off an edge of a residental area near Paoli right of Route 202 -- one turned off the main street into a short stretch of road which promptly ended at a "T" intersection where one either turned left or right. It really didn't matter as the road was an oval loop but I always turned right, curved to the left once, and right after the second curve to the left there was a small clearing, dirt road, with a sign that said, "No Tresspassing Private Property." It was easy to miss. Once down that dirt road aways, one found the old radar towers (about three), the old lightning arrestors, and such, plus some of the old barracks and equipment buildings. We used those old radar towers for our antenna sites and one of the old equipment rooms for our radio shack -- and on field day we'd set up tents and BBQ and camp out overnight.

See this link for history of the operation there and the reference to us being at the old control site area:

http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~uparc/history.html

I checked the aerial shots on Bing of the control site and you can still see the residental loop. If my memory is correct, the actual location of the radar towers and barracks is where the cul-de-sac loop branches off -- that was not there in the early 1990's and it's right about where the secluded dirt road turn-off through the trees and weeds was. It looks as if some of the older houses were demolished and or new ones added and the area improved as a result of Penn selling off that small section.

Regards, Chris Chooch331 (talk) 20:29, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

PH 82 possible reversal of launch site and fire control site locations

Hello

I enjoy this page and was actually looking to find the coordinates for PH 82 as I spent many a good field day with the University of Penn and Holmesburg Amateur Radio Clubs who used the old fire control site for radio operations. I've not been there since the mid-1990's, right before Penn sold the property to a real estate developer.

I do believe that the two areas -- CS and launch areas -- are reversed. The control site was accessed off an edge of a residental area near Paoli right of Route 202 -- one turned off the main street into a short stretch of road which promptly ended at a "T" intersection where one either turned left or right. It really didn't matter as the road was an oval loop but I always turned right, curved to the left once, and right after the second curve to the left there was a small clearing, dirt road, with a sign that said, "No Tresspassing Private Property." It was easy to miss. Once down that dirt road aways, one found the old radar towers (about three), the old lightning arrestors, and such, plus some of the old barracks and equipment buildings. We used those old radar towers for our antenna sites and one of the old equipment rooms for our radio shack -- and on field day we'd set up tents and BBQ and camp out overnight.

See this link for history of the operation there and the reference to us being at the old control site area:

http://www.seas.upenn.edu/~uparc/history.html

I checked the aerial shots on Bing of the control site and you can still see the residental loop. If my memory is correct, the actual location of the radar towers and barracks is where the cul-de-sac loop branches off -- that was not there in the early 1990's and it's right about where the secluded dirt road turn-off through the trees and weeds was. It looks as if some of the older houses were demolished and or new ones added and the area improved as a result of Penn selling off that small section.

Regards, Chris Chooch331 (talk) 20:29, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Launcher site is at correct location. Control site is in wrong location. Control site should be on Horse Shoe Trail at Horseshoe Pointe Dr. 40° 5'12.37"N 75°29'8.25"W Historical imagery in Google Earth from 1992 clearly shows the concrete launch pads/missile storage bunkers at the the current location of Eaves Spring Rd. I got the coordinates for PH-82C from a Google Earth community Nike sites post. The 1992 and 1999 imagery show buildings and what looks like a radome at that location and other objects consistent with the layout of a Nike control site. Images from ed-thelen.org match with the location I have given. http://ed-thelen.org/loc-p.html http://ed-thelen.org/PH-82C-PageT-TerraServer1999.jpg http://ed-thelen.org/PH-82C-PageT-TopoMap1981.jpg Hal9000w (talk) 09:04, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Title error on coordinate page.

{{geodata-check}}

The following title fix is required: W-83 LS

Page is currently identified as W-83 CS but the coordinates are for the W-83 LS.

- Steve Grady

 Done. Deor (talk) 19:09, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Title and content

Wouldn't "List of Nike missile locations in the United States" or something along those lines be a better title for this page? Though it is mentioned that there were also Nike sites outside of the United States (quite a few of them, even), they're not listed in this article. It'd make sense if either the title was changed or the foreign locations added. BabyNuke (talk) 02:33, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

BR-73 update

Updated Launch Site info for Connecticut BR-73 Westport. While site had earlier been used for Special Education and Firefighting Training Center, it was completely demolished in the late 1990's and redeveloped as the new Bedford Middle School which opened in 2001.

http://06880danwoog.com/2014/08/26/westports-school-daze/ http://06880danwoog.com/2011/10/11/when-the-cold-war-came-to-town-photos-tk/ http://www.westport-news.com/news/article/Effort-to-preserve-vestiges-of-Westport-Nike-5925655.php http://www.westportnow.com/index.php?/v2_5/comments/school_officials_considered_redistricting/ - AFHRH

Fort Warren, George's Island, Massachusetts

Fort Warren, on George's Island, one of the Boston Harbor Islands, was in service 1835-1962, and, according to interpretive material at the visitor's center, was the site of a Nike base. Note the image here. I have no other information about it. Dpbsmith (talk) 21:13, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on List of Nike missile sites. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/20101106141225/http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/nikesite/sites/summary.pdf to http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/nikesite/sites/summary.pdf
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080412011732/http://www.jsonline.com:80/story/?id=126328 to http://www.jsonline.com/story/?id=126328

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 16:25, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on List of Nike missile sites. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/20101106141225/http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/nikesite/sites/summary.pdf to http://www.redstone.army.mil/history/nikesite/sites/summary.pdf
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080412011735/http://www.jsonline.com:80/story/?id=408024 to http://www.jsonline.com/story/?id=408024

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 15:42, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The coordinates for the Hawaii sites were grossly inaccurate. I've corrected them (checking the web source with satellite maps to ensure that that one was correct), but it would probably be a good idea to check others as well. KarlM (talk) 10:33, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on List of Nike missile sites. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090618062800/http://m-epperson.home.comcast.net/~m-epperson/nike/ to http://m-epperson.home.comcast.net/~m-epperson/nike/
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070115073506/http://www.zianet.com/tangoz/fourgrnd/history.html to http://www.zianet.com/tangoz/fourgrnd/history.html
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090618062800/http://m-epperson.home.comcast.net/~m-epperson/nike/ to http://m-epperson.home.comcast.net/~m-epperson/nike/

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:03, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}}

The following coordinate fixes are needed for SF 31 IFC Latitude N 37 43 25 Longitude W 122 07 09

Tried to do this with "edit" but wrongly put in decimals - converted decimals to above correct Lat-Long. Current coordinates on Nike Missile Site wiki are off approx one mile to east in residential neighborhood. SF 31 Control site is clearly marked half mile to west of launcher area and north in Lake Chabot Park area to west of Lake Chabot Road along Fairmount Ridge.

—Tipan69 (talk) 19:33, 28 May 2017 (UTC) Christopher C. Botamer

Got correct coordinates from google maps then found how to convert to degrees, minutes....

After a tweak, I think the coordinates are correct now. Deor (talk) 20:53, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

Missile Type?

Where are these coming from when the entries aren't Nike-Hercules or Nike-Ajax. The designations are confusing and don't correspond to any nomenclature I am familiar with or find on the web. I am talking about the designations like Nike 2AK/8L-H. Hal9000w (talk) 21:03, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

I think i found the answer: it looks like this is the designation for launcher configuration at launch site, as opposed to what missles were used at the site. Very confusing especially without the key:

Nike Missile Type Key Missile Storage: C=Ajax only, original design; B=Ajax or Hercules, some modifications were required for the elevator to handle the Hercules launcher; D=Either, increased access room in the magazine Missile/Launcher: A=Ajax; AA=Double Ajax launchers; AG=Above Ground; H=Hercules; L=Launcher; K=Unofficial designation for Alaskan above ground launchers; U=Universal launcher; UA=l/2 Universal and 1/2 Ajax launchers; UU=Double Universal launchers Note: Launchers converted to Hercules are given in parenthesis; e.g. (8L-H)

from http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA337549 http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=ADA337549

I suggest that this field be converted to just show whether the site supported Ajax, Hercules or both. If someone wants to list this information it should be in a separate field and include the key.

Hal9000w (talk) 21:19, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on List of Nike missile sites. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131004214318/http://www.afcec.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=20742 to http://www.afcec.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=20742

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 19:58, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 6 external links on List of Nike missile sites. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120915030303/http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/articles/sports-complex-coming-to-former-military-base to http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/articles/sports-complex-coming-to-former-military-base
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110508123254/http://www.nike252.org/default.htm to http://www.nike252.org/default.htm
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110716024223/http://www.lrl.usace.army.mil/poi/default.asp?mycategory=399 to http://www.lrl.usace.army.mil/poi/default.asp?mycategory=399
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20091227085646/http://www.crompton.com/bucks/richboro/nike/ to http://www.crompton.com/bucks/richboro/nike/
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120402182402/http://www.ph15.org/ph67/ to http://www.ph15.org/ph67
• Added archive http://webarchive.loc.gov/all/20111103003038/http%3A//www.ph15.org/ph82/ to http://www.ph15.org/ph82

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:42, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

External links modified (January 2018)

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on List of Nike missile sites. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100824083955/http://www.ctwoodlands.org/node/171 to http://www.ctwoodlands.org/node/171
• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20161011180604/http://www.utsystem.edu/pol/academy.htm to http://www.utsystem.edu/pol/academy.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:18, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}}

The following coordinate fixes are needed for This location is wrong

—72.132.18.186 (talk) 19:20, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Which location is wrong? There are too many coordinates in the article for anyone to blindly trawl through them looking for errors. Please give a clear explanation of what is erroneous and, if possible, what the correct location should be. (Remove the tlc| from the geodata-check template above when you give your explanation.) Deor (talk) 15:21, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}}

The following coordinate fixes are needed for

W-92 -- the control site is actually on the north side of Route 28/Darnestown Road, at the end of the unmarked L-shaped road between Argosy Drive and Treworthy Road -- correct coordinates are: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Future+site+of+Gaithersburg+city+park/@39.106482,-77.223812,18z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x56d624a481eac60f!8m2!3d39.1063714!4d-77.2231586?hl=en-US.

—Drwong64 (talk) 22:21, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

 Done. Deor (talk) 03:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Coordinate error

{{geodata-check}}

The following coordinate fixes are needed for LA88 IFC 34°19'34.9"N 118°35'12.8"W somewhat east of the pointered position where the old site is still visible

—174.220.22.74 (talk) 02:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC) 174.220.22.74 (talk) 02:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for pointing out the error. Deor (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

FDS????????????????????

FDS appears on the page 103 times but NOTHING denotes to the reader what FDS stands for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.162.254.10 (talk) 03:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I asked that same question a decade ago here on this talkpage, found the answer (processed via Formerly Used Defense Sites program), and added it as a note in the table of bases. It later got merged into the body of the article. And then it was removed two years ago[2] with the note "uncited section with overly technical info on military nomenclature" (I think it may have actually been copied from a free source that was cited elsewhere). I'll re-add this specific detail with link to the existing ref that I at the time noted supports it. DMacks (talk) 16:42, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Same question (sort of) IFC appears on the page 97 times but NOTHING denotes to the reader what IFC stands for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.13.133.2 (talk) 11:55, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Where is the one in Erial NJ? Hmmm

Erial NJ? 163.182.133.62 (talk) 13:13, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

According to Google Maps, the locations Site PH-41/43 were on the west side of Berlin-Cross Keys Rd just south-west of Gloucester Town Center and on the west side of Williamstown Erial Rd just south of James Lilley Elementary School. DMacks (talk) 15:12, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Budget and cost

I would like to see the budget and expenditure of the 265 Nike missile bases described in the lead section. Viriditas (talk) 00:57, 3 October 2023 (UTC)