Talk:List of best-selling music artists

Roberto Carlos and Nelson Gonçalves

If you take a look at the List of best-selling Latin music artists page, Roberto Carlos and Nelson Gonçalves are reported to have sold 100 and 75 million copies, respectively. They both should also be in this page. Check out that article's talk page for discussion of those artists in the lists. Erick (talk) 17:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Dalida, Charles Aznavour, Julio Inglesias... there must be many more? Maybe a Chinese General? Maybe Edith Piaf? Monodonoceros (talk) 15:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 June 2024

Change Drake's US sales number that's under Total Certified Units from 426.28 million to 291.5 millions. Assuming you are supposed to add US RIAA Albums sales with Single sales, 291.5 million is correct. Either way 426.28 million is an incorrect number that does not bear out in any source, and is disproved in the source listed. My two sources linked below. https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=top_tallies&ttt=TAA#search_section https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=top_tallies&ttt=TAS#search_section Chasezt (talk) 02:59, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

I think you are right. On the page it writes: Drake Total certified units 530.8 million.

• US: 426.28 million. Reference: "RIAA: Searchable Database". Recording Industry Association of America. Archived from the original on March 22, 2021. Retrieved September 23, 2011.

And that states that on 2021, when the reference was checked, he had 426 million, but on the referenced you posted, that are up to date 2024, it states:

• 47,5 millions (albums) and 244 millions (singles) for a total of 291.5 millions.

The reference that you posted is: /gold-platinum/?tab_active=top_tallies&ttt=TAA#search_section and the one that is on the page is riaa.com/gold-platinum/ that is AWARDS BY MOST RECENT, instead of AWARDS BY TOP TALLIES. I think Top Tallies is an easier reference for the totals.

This happens with many artists. So maybe the numbers are high for some reason. Paladium (talk) 20:07, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Oasis

• I think Oasis have reached the 75 million sales for all records worldwide.:
• They have albums and singles going multi platinum in the UK alone with singles and albums for years. long after they passed the 70 million mark. can someone help me out please ?:
• References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button):

178.167.167.230 (talk) 16:41, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

References

Hi, would you mind to help break down their certified sales? --Apoxyomenus (talk) 17:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I only have UK figures is that enough ?. Regards 178.167.167.230 (talk) 18:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Unless, their UK certs are higher than their claimed sales, and therefore meets the criteria, that would be enough. But the idea is that it should include all of their available certifications, like it happens with all artists listed here: from United States to Canada or Australia. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 18:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

I don't have that info. Do other people check that stuff out ?. They have been over 70 million sales for years and I have seen their uk sales go up a lot alone since 70 million was mentioned 178.167.167.230 (talk) 18:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

How far do you put them away from 75 with the figures we have ?. 178.167.167.230 (talk) 18:21, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Yes every listed artist were included under that criteria. Judging by current artists within the category of 75M claimed sales and from early 1990s, they have a minimun of 55M certified units. I don't know Oasis's total available certified units. I would like to help, but unfortunately I'm bussy. You might consider help us finding their certified units, by scrolling into their discography (also Template:Oasis). We only include certified sales, for example BPI sales not figures from OCC. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 19:06, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: The changes are not supported by neutral, independent, reliable sources. Please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  Lightoil (talk) 19:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

How the hell would i be able to list all of their sales on here ?. it would be impossible ? 178.167.167.230 (talk) 19:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Time-consuming, but it is necessary provide evidence, at least with our current method. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 21:34, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi. I'll help you. Here is their sales list in the biggest markets. I didn't find anything other than these and in markets like Brazil, Mexico they either don't have a certificate or the number is less than 100,000 when you add them up. One more thing, sales in Sweden and Australia are until 2009, see if you can get anything after that date.

Thanks, Markus. I found that their certs in Sweden remains the same. I added their Spanish certs per this source. I'll help with other countries. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 22:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Nice! Forget to include Spain.--Markus WikiEditor (talk) 22:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Done with Japan, Italy and Switzerland. I'm still busy, not sure if y'll can help with other countries. I tend to believe that they already fit for an automatic inclusion, although there exist various streaming-generated certs and a source is needed for the 75M claim. Thanks, --Apoxyomenus (talk) 23:09, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Artist	Country	Period active	Release-year of first charted record	Genre	Total certified units (from available markets)	Claimed sales
Oasis	England	1991–2009	1994	Rock / Britpop	57 million UK: 42.050 million US: 7.5 million GER: 1,250 million CAN: 1.3 million FRA: 700,000 AUS: [580,000] till 2009 SWE: 300,000 till 2009 SPA: 680,000 ITA: 755,000 JPN: 1.8 million SWI: 120,000	75 million

Thanks for helping me with this guys I have been following their sales I knew they had to have passed the mark with the UK sales alone in the last while. How many certified sales would they need to reach the 80–99 million section ?. If they have 57 million certified sales at the moment please ?. Can one of you add their photo to that section of the sales please ?. like all the other artists have please ?. Thank you 178.167.186.35 (talk) 15:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

References

This articles should be removed , it's too vague (Elvis Presley and Bing Crosby are the best-selling single artist )

Elvis Presley sold more than 1 billion records worlwide , Bing Crosby sold 1 billion records worlwide , The Beatles more than 1 billion worlwide and Frank Sinatra sold more than 150 millons !

Nobody sold more than them, eve Charts Masters made a count of Sinatra's sold avaible ; with more that 200 millons , Billboard in the 2005 published that Sinatra sold 600 millons worlwide !

This article should be removed....!

2800:BF0:170:B69:A929:5DDD:E7D5:1196 (talk) 15:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 June 2024

In the "Country" section next to Oasis, can you rename it to "United Kingdom", as per usual with the other music artists that hail from the United Kingdom? 2601:40D:101:9D60:13E:A6BD:3E8:F715 (talk) 16:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done Jamedeus (talk) 21:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Taylor’s sales need to be updated

Regardless of the method that you use to count sales, Taylor’s sales must be updated. We all know that she broke all kinds of records in the past 3 years and that she has been the best selling artist in the world in 2023 and will be in 2024 too. She has sold tons of physical sales on top of being the most streamed artist of the year in 2023 (and so far in 2024 as well). Since 2021 (her last update) she has released 4 new albums (4 rerecordings + 2 brand new albums), she’s making music history.She’s been Billboard top artist for more than 100 weeks. It’s about time all of this gets acknowledged. Tommyb95 (talk) 15:48, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

You need to provide reliable sources to back up sales figures. Erick (talk) 15:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

for God’s sake, even if you take into consideration only the first week sales certified by Billboard you can see that Taylor moved millions of physical sales! As for streaming goes the numbers are open, it’s been written everywhere that Taylor has generated 26 billions streams in 2023 alone and RIAA equates 1500 streams to an equivalent album sale. Just look it up! IFPI awarded Taylor in 2033 as the best selling artist in the world (only artist to win it 4 times). There are hundreds of sources that document the success that Taylor has had in the past 3 years, even here on Wikipedia. The 114 weeks as Billboard top artist is certified by Billboard itself, what more do you want? Sleeping on Taylor and denying what happened in the past 3 years is just unprofessional for a page that claims to be a reference for the best selling artists of all time… 37.163.188.66 (talk) 16:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

The burden is on the one making the claim. It is not up to me or anyone else to provide the sources to back those statements up. Erick (talk) 16:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

I guess Billboard isn’t a valuable source for you then 37.163.188.66 (talk) 16:46, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

How about you post a source from Billboard that backs up Taylor's sales? Erick (talk) 16:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

https://www.billboard.com/lists/taylor-swift-tortured-poets-department-debut-number-one-billboard-200-chart/#! there you go, the evidence from Billboard that Taylor sold just in the US 2.61 millions albums with only TTPD (one of the 11 albums that she has in the top200)in its first week… Billboard posts an article about Taylor every week citing how much she sells… and that’s just in the US 37.163.188.66 (talk) 16:53, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

there you also have the proof by Billboard that Taylor is in fact the best selling artist of 2023: https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/taylor-swift-crowned-ifpi-global-recording-artist-2023-1235611258/amp/ 37.163.188.66 (talk) 16:57, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Source one says equivalent album units, not sales and source two makes no mention of how much she sold. Erick (talk) 17:07, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

equivalent album sales are the current measure in the industry ever since streaming entered the game… how else can you count all formats, from pure sales to digital sales to streaming? btw even if you wanna deny streaming equivalent sales, the article states that Taylor sold 1.91 millions pure sales (physical) with TTPD in its first week in the US only. Just imagine how much Taylor sold in all formats in the past 3 years with all her 11 albums charting in the billboard hot200… also, everything I stated is fact-checked by billboard. Even the 26.1 billions streams in 2023 alone are reported by Billboard itself (https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-spotify-top-artist-2023-1235514071/amp/)… if you knew the RIAA equivalences from streaming to equivalent album sales, you would known how much she sold in 2023… but I get it, you’d rather pretend that 26.1 billion streams amount to nothing. Let’s act as if the current best selling artist in the world sold 0 copies in the past 2/3 years. Just wait until a dumb magazine claims that she sold 250 or 300 million sales in a few years. Don’t be surprised though if your page loses credibility in the mean time. There are sites that actually monitor all formats every day and they add all things up to provide a realistic picture (which explain how Taylor sold 40 millions equivalent album sales in 2023 worldwide), you clearly aren’t one of those sources… bye 2A0E:425:889B:0:6C42:1128:F647:154B (talk) 18:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)