Talk:List of lost silent films (1925–1929)

Silent Versions

Silent versions were routinely made from most sound films until 1931. Since "Frozen Justice" "Alias Jimmy Valentine" and "Stark Mad" have been added are we now going to add the numerous amount of silent versions made for almost every sound film from 1928 to 1931? If so this list will become a virtual duplication of the sound list along with real silent movies for which no sound version existed. The vast majority of "silent versions" were simply mute releases of the original talkies with written titles replacing the dialogue. They can hardly be considered to be separate films. They were simply made for theatres who had not yet been wired for sound. Talkicolor (talk) 22:31, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Point taken. I'll remove them. However, why are you deleting the Silent Era references from List of lost films? Deutsche Kinemathek considers Silent Era reliable enough to use as one of its sources in compiling its own lost list, e.g. Adrienne Lecouvreur. Also, you need to format the bare urls of books. That's just plain ugly. Clarityfiend (talk) 22:57, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Silentera is a "Self-published source" and according to wikipedia rules,WP:USERGENERATED, are not allowed. Silentera has it's own agenda and it clearly interested mainly in silent films, even though they include some sound films in their listing. There are numerous errors in films from the early sound era, showing this disinterest in the period. Additionally, I would hardly call Adrienne Lecouvreur a reliable source. I just checked for some of the most sought after of lost films, including, "The Rogue Song" 1930 and "Gold Diggers of Broadway" 1929, and nothing turned up. If silentera sources are going to be included here, then so should imdb and similiar websites. Both of these sites are selective. I have attempted to list every lost American sound feature film for 1928.1934 in the "list of lost films" and would like to now include a list of all known part-talkies which I have compiled from various sources. By the way, these film are considered lost because they are not known to exist in any archive around the world. In private hands, anything is possible but this list, and any list of lost films, is simply a statement that no print is known to exist in any archive. It is common knowledge (among film buffs of this era) that the films I have listed are lost. They have been lost for decades. But to expect an authoritative source for every film to somehow back up these commonly known facts is absurd. It is more reasonable to include a reference for films known to exist and it can easily be verified by an archive's website. But to expect confirmation for something that is not known to exist any longer? Talkicolor (talk) 23:21, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

At this point, I'm going to copy transfer this part of the discussion to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film for other opinions. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:24, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

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